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Can this be TRUE????
scottm21166
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SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING
Who is buying companies, manufacturing guns ?????
For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States. If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians. What a perfect way to control guns.
Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management.
Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the
most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out. Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream" media?I would think this would be BIG news.(Soros also owns Progressive Insurance).
If you don't know who George Soros is, you need to do some
research. He backed Obama with millions of dollars and
Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros .
Send this to every gun owner in America.
Who is buying companies, manufacturing guns ?????
For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States. If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians. What a perfect way to control guns.
Now if you do some digging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management.
Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the
most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out. Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream" media?I would think this would be BIG news.(Soros also owns Progressive Insurance).
If you don't know who George Soros is, you need to do some
research. He backed Obama with millions of dollars and
Obama is a puppet on a string controlled by Soros .
Send this to every gun owner in America.
Comments
Subject : OIL---you better be sitting down when you read this !
WHY AREN'T WE ALL SCREAMING OUR HEADS OFF LIKE HAPPENED IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WHEN GAS WENT OVER $2@GAL?
You "will" pay $5 a gallon + again, and you won't complain loud enough to make a difference, RIGHT!
Here's an astonishing read. Important and verifiable information :
About 6 months ago, the writer was watching a news program on oil and one of the Forbes Bros. was the guest. The host said to Forbes, "I am going to ask you a direct question and I would like a direct answer; how much oil does the U.S. have in the ground?" Forbes did not miss a beat, he said, "more than all the Middle East put together."
Please read below.
The U. S. Geological Service issued a report in April 2008 that only scientists and oil men knew was coming, but man was it big. It was a revised report (hadn't been updated since 1995) on how much oil was in this area of the western 2/3 of North Dakota, western South Dakota, and extreme eastern Montana ..... check THIS out:
The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay , and has the potential to eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion barrels. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable... at $107 a barrel, we're looking at a resource base worth more than $5...3 trillion.
"When I first briefed legislators on this, you could practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no idea.." says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's financial analyst.
"This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore oil field found in the past 56 years," reportsThe Pittsburgh Post Gazette. It's a formation known as the Williston Basin , but is more commonly referred to as the 'Bakken.' It stretches from Northern Montana , through North Dakota and into Canada . For years, U. S. oil exploration has been considered a dead end. Even the 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil wells decades ago. However, a recent technological breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive reserves..... and we now have access of up to 500 billion barrels. And because this is light, sweet oil, those billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL!
That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy for 2041 years straight. And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this next one should - because it's from 2006!
U.. S. Oil Discovery- Largest Reserve in the World
Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006
Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With this motherload of oil why are we still fighting over off-shore drilling?
They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.. Here are the official estimates:
- 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
- 18-times as much oil as Iraq
- 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
- 22-times as much oil as Iran
- 500-times as much oil as Yemen
- and it's all right here in the Western United States .
HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this? Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil! Again, we are letting a small group of people dictate our lives and our economy.....WHY?
James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East -more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped. That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today, reports The Denver Post.
Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price - even with this find? Think again! It's all about the competitive marketplace, - it has to. Think OPEC just might be funding the environmentalists?
Got your attention yet? Now, while you're thinking about it, do this:
Pass this along. If you don't take a little time to do this, then you should stifle yourself the next time you complain about gas prices - by doing NOTHING, you forfeit your right to complain.
Now I just wonder what would happen in this country if every one of you sent this to every one in your address book.
By the way...this is all true. Check it out at the link below!!!
GOOGLE it, or follow this link. It will blow your mind.
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
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if you're too lazy and/or incompetent to make sure something is real before you post it, please for the good of the whole group just dont post email forwards.
http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/news/business/companies/cerberus_capital_management/index.html
http://www.isra.org/alerts/freedom_group/
I beleive it it owned by a Mark Fein...something or a Mark Something...stein.
BTW, Captplaid, it's Steve Feinberg. He's the CEO, couldn't find the owner - no doubt it's owned by a board of directors.
I didn't snopes check it because nothing is ever true according to them.
It is interesting even if it isn't true because it is POSSIBLE.
With the amount of money being thrown around to influence our way of lives, pick winners and losers why wouldn't someone spend a little money to reduce the choices in firearms. We know the government does it with surplus weapons and brass pick-ups.
So...
as a globetrotting business leader working with some of the sharpest investors around -- James Danforth Quayle, 58, has proved his friends right. He has carved out a winning role as chairman of global investments for Cerberus Capital Management.
Armed with a hefty Rolodex and a potent ability to get access, Quayle is the classic door-opener. He smooths the way for deals by gaining the confidence of sellers and regulators. Last spring he joked to executives of Cerberus companies that people have one of two reactions when he phones. As Air Canada (AIR ) Chief Executive Robert A. Milton recalls, "Reaction No. 1 is, 'Wow, it's the former Vice-President. Let me pick up the call.' The other reaction is, 'It's the former Vice-President. Why the hell is he calling me?" Either way, says Milton, Quayle gets a foot in the door.
He's especially valuable when offshore politicians are involved. It was Quayle, for instance, who met with then-Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this summer about Cerberus' interest in buying Israel's 26.3% stake in Bank Leumi, Israel's second-largest bank. His first task after joining Cerberus in 2000 was wooing Japanese officials nervous about the firm's bid for the former Nippon Credit Bank. His longtime ties to Japan paid off, and Cerberus eventually bought a controlling stake in the bank, now renamed Aozora Bank Ltd., in 2003. "Quayle has given a broad sense of credibility to Cerberus," says Yoshihiko Miyauchi, chief executive of Tokyo-based ORIX Corp. (IX ), a financial-services provider that also has a stake in Aozora. "Having a respectable person like Quayle earns the trust of people who doubt the company."
Quayle also has shown a keen business sense as a company director, beginning in 1993, when he joined the American Standard Cos. (ASD ) board. "He surprised everybody in the most positive way with his insights, judgments, and ability to net out the issues," says Joseph S. Schuchert Jr., chairman of Kelso & Co., a private investment firm, and a fellow director.
Quayle once made what turned out to be a prescient call when he and the rest of the board rebuffed a takeover overture from Tyco International Ltd. (TYC ) in 1996. Wall Street had lavishly praised the potential combo, but Quayle was suspicious of Tyco's inflated stock price. Schuchert, whose firm controlled Standard, credits Quayle's "good common sense" -- not any gimlet-eyed analyst's view -- for sensing that Standard would be better off far away from Tyco. What's more, Schuchert adds, his "political skills were helpful in bringing the board together" to reject Tyco's approaches. And when Quayle and other directors on the K2 Inc. (KTO ) sporting-goods-company board were split on whether to keep an executive a few years ago, a colleague recalls, Quayle weighed in with the deciding question: "If we were going to hire for the position today, is this the guy we would hire? If he isn't, what are we talking about?" In short order, says K2 CEO Richard J. Heckmann, the executive was history. Quayle is still a K2 director.
Quayle says he hasn't found the transition from politics to business all that difficult. "There are a lot of similarities," he says. "You've got people who have different agendas. It's basically getting people to agree, and I've been doing that all my life in politics." But he admits it has been a learning experience: "I don't hold myself out as a financial expert, but I know a heck of a lot more than I did six years ago. What I do know is how to get things done." And at the rate Cerberus has been snapping up companies, apparently a lot is getting done.
Feinberg has been noted to be a very private person. Despite his considerable personal wealth (Feinberg reportedly made $50 million in 2004), his lifestyle is notably less extravagant than his peers in private equity.[3] He lives on Manhattan's Upper East Side with his wife Gisela and their three daughters.
His hobbies include game hunting, chess, skiing, and riding his Harley-Davidson motorcycle. Steve and Gisela Feinberg are prolific donors to the Republican Party and related organizations. Former Republican Vice President of the United States Dan Quayle works for Cerberus as Chairman of Global Investments, and former United States Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was a client.
Another good read here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/business/15sorkin.html?dlbk
I didn't say it was true and I had never seen it posted before. Sadly, I do not have time to read every thread.
I didn't snopes check it because nothing is ever true according to them.
It is interesting even if it isn't true because it is POSSIBLE.
With the amount of money being thrown around to influence our way of lives, pick winners and losers why wouldn't someone spend a little money to reduce the choices in firearms. We know the government does it with surplus weapons and brass pick-ups.
So...
So you just posted it anyway, with a last line stating SEND THIS TO EVERY GUN OWNER IN AMERICA?
You're full of it, too. You bought into it, and wanted us to, as well. Didn't you learn from the guy who posted about JoePa dying? CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!
Jeez...[xx(]
So you just posted it anyway, with a last line stating SEND THIS TO EVERY GUN OWNER IN AMERICA?
You're full of it, too. You bought into it, and wanted us to, as well. Didn't you learn from the guy who posted about JoePa dying? CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!
Jeez...[xx(]
Par for the course....
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=548490
quote:So you just posted it anyway, with a last line stating SEND THIS TO EVERY GUN OWNER IN AMERICA?
You're full of it, too. You bought into it, and wanted us to, as well. Didn't you learn from the guy who posted about JoePa dying? CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!
Jeez...
Man, bad time of the month or what, go take a Valium or two and stop insulting people.
You've chastized in a non too polite manner, several people on this forum the last few days because what they said did not suit you, too bad!
Last I looked, no one died and made you the GB Police Chief in charge of anything.
Scott may not always be correct, kinda like ALL of us, but he has contributed in a POSITIVE manner to this forum the last several years without chastizing or attempting to Police the forums, unlike you...[;)]
Navybrat
quote:So you just posted it anyway, with a last line stating SEND THIS TO EVERY GUN OWNER IN AMERICA?
You're full of it, too. You bought into it, and wanted us to, as well. Didn't you learn from the guy who posted about JoePa dying? CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!
Jeez...
Man, bad time of the month or what, go take a Valium or two and stop insulting people.
You've chastized in a non too polite manner, several people on this forum the last few days because what they said did not suit you, too bad!
Last I looked, no one died and made you the GB Police Chief in charge of anything.
Scott may not always be correct, kinda like ALL of us, but he has contributed in a POSITIVE manner to this forum the last several years without chastizing or attempting to Police the forums, unlike you...[;)]
It would seem that Navybat never offers any real contribution to any thread. She(?) lays in wait for someone else to make a statement then chides them about it. I would read some of her other posts to see a pattern. DON"T FEED THE TROLLS!
PS I figured "sweet cheeks" must be a girl.
Re Sweetcheeks:
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=548690