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quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
edited September 2002 in General Discussion
I know this isn't the right board for this, but no one goes on the archery board. Does anyone know of a web site where you can buy new or used Matthews bows???

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  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I received this from some local intel, just wanted to pass on to you all so you can be more aware and safe.


    MS-13 Smuggles Muslim Terrorists into U.S.

    MS-13 member with Arabic tattoos

    Al Qaeda and the Latino Gang-Bangers

    The situation at the border now poses a grave threat to national

    security.

    Agent Mike Scioli of the U.S. Border Patrol confirms that the Tucson

    sector of the Border Patrol is facing a worsening problem with Mara

    Salvatrucha, a Salvadoran street gang that now controls the flow of

    arms, drugs, and illegal aliens into the U.S.

    Two members of the violent gang were collared last week in Tucson and

    Nogales.

    Twenty have been brought into custody since President Barack Obama

    assumed the oath of office on January 20, 2009.

    But the Salvadoran gang is bringing more than guns, dope, and Mexican

    peasant workers over the border.

    In the wake of 9/11, Mara Salvatrucha attracted the attention of top al

    Qaeda officials, who realized that the gang could be used to smuggle

    operatives and weapons into the United States.[1] An agreement was

    forged between the terrorists and the gang-bangers. In exchange for safe

    passage across the border, al Qaeda - through its cells in South America

    - agreed to pay the Maras from $30,000 to $50,000 for each sleeper agent

    they managed to smuggle into the country with bogus matricula

    consulars.[2]

    Matricula consulars are official identification cards that are issued by

    the Mexican government through its consular offices. The cards verify

    that the bearers are Mexican citizens who are living outside of Mexico

    with the government's permission.

    According to U.S. officials, these cards pose a grave threat to

    national security. Steven McCraw, assistant director of the FBI's Office

    of Intelligence, told a House Judiciary Subcommittee: "The ability of

    foreign nationals to use the matricula consular provides an opportunity

    for terrorists to move freely within the United States without

    triggering name-based watch lists that are disseminated to local police

    officers."

    Counterfeit matricula consulars are easy to obtain. In Los Angeles, the

    going rate is $90; in New York City, $150.

    News of the alliance between al Qaeda and Mara Salvatrucha prompted

    Honduran officials, including Security Minister Oscar Alvarez, to adopt

    a zero-tolerance law that makes membership in the street gang punishable

    by 12 years in prison. Mara members responded to this legislation by

    beheading scores of victims and leaving notes on the bodies for the

    Honduran government. One note read: "Idiots, the end of the world is

    approaching."[3]

    According to border patrol officials, including Sheriff D'Wayne Jenigan

    of Del Rio, Texas, thousands of Special Interest Aliens (SIAs), with the

    help of Mara Salvatrucha "coyotes," have made their way across the

    Mexican border and into the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    Such SIAs come from countries that pose national security concerns:

    Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Somalia, Yemen,

    Jordan, Lebanon, and even Iraq.

    The routes used by illegal aliens to enter the U.S. have become littered

    with discarded Muslim prayer blankets, pages from Islamic texts, and

    Arabic newspapers. Law enforcement officials have named such passageways

    "terrorists' alleys" and a street leading north from the city of

    Douglas, Arizona, as "Arab Road."

    Stay Safe
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ayn Rand's 1957 novel "Atlas Shrugged" is enjoying renewed popularity following the release of the new Atlas Shrugged movie. Rand's story describes a group of American industrialists that lose patience with onerous regulation and taxation, and "shrug"--disappearing from their normal lives to relocate to a hidden valley called Galt's Gulch.
    While this tale is fictional, it has some strong parallels to modern-day America. And despite the fact that Ayn Rand was an atheist and favored legalized abortion, she was a good judge of both character and the inevitable tendencies of elected governments. When I consider the regulatory and tax burdens that have been implemented in my lifetime--I was born in 1960--I believe that Rand had amazing prescience. Let's face it: We no longer live in a free market capitalist nation. At best, it could called a "mixed" economy with statist tendencies, and verging on socialism.

    Reading the news headlines in recent months has led me to believe that the Galt's Gulch concept has a lot of merit. If The Powers That Be wanted to encourage the Atlases of the world to shrug, they couldn't have done a better job. What is the best way to get the most productive Citizens of our nation to go on strike, and retreat to "gulches"? Consider the following "to do" list for those whom Ayn Rand called "The Destroyers":

    1.Remove the homeowner's mortgage interest tax deduction. Yes, they're pushing for it.

    2.Reinstate the Federal estate tax and pre-Bush Administration income tax levels. They want to impose the old tax rates on anyone with an income of $250,000. Oh, and the CBO's budget predictions are all using the assumption that the 2001 tax cuts are reverted. Is this wishful thinking (to make the increases in the Federal debt not look quite so bad), or a fait accompli?

    3.Nationalize IRAs and 401(k)s. Yes, its under discussion.

    4.Increase taxes for unemployment-insurance funds. This is already in progress.

    5.Drag out approval of new mining operations with endless Environmental Impact studies. They're already doing it.

    6.Inflate the currency to rob those who save money--a hidden form of taxation. Standard practice for 40 years.

    7.Drag out approval of newly-developed medicines. Now the status quo.

    8.Push up the rates for "sin" taxes on tobacco, alcohol, and other items. Already implemented in 2010.

    9.Increase the Minimum Wage. Several states have done so, but even worse yet, some unions are pushing for more socialist "Living Wage" laws

    10.Raise import tariffs. Each new tariff causes problems. Didn't they ever hear Ben Stein's high school Economics lecture on the Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? (OBTW, Ben Stein is now warning about an economic collapse.)

    11.Increase the tax paperwork burden by requiring "1099-MISC" reporting of all cash transactions over $600. (Attempted, but thankfully set aside for the time being.)

    12.Increase the cost of doing business through mandatory insurance. (The "labor burden" for an employee with a nominal salary of $17 per hour ($35,360 gross, annually) is an additional $20,029 per year.) Workman's compensation, in particular, is getting painfully expensive.

    13.Increase sales taxes. Several states have increased sales taxes, since 2009.

    14.Increase property taxes, as home values decline. Many counties have hiked their tax rates.

    15.Continue to increase the size of the government (and its debts). The Federal debt increases are looking inexorable.

    16.Push for increased mandatory employer-paid benefits for company employees like mandatory health insurance for part-time employees and European-style long term parental leave. Also, push toward excluding companies from government contracts unless they have expanded health care coverage.

    17.Mandate payment of state sales taxes on out-of-state purchases for Internet and mail orders. Yes, they're still pushing for these taxes, and for regulation of the entire Internet.

    18.Create a pervasive Nanny State mentality. For example: penalize companies and consumers for high trans-fat foods, and alcoholic beverages that taste too good.

    19.Sue the makers of guns that actually work just as they were designed. (At least a partial law shield law was enacted, in 2005.)

    20.Use taxpayer funds to destroy classic cars that are in running condition, while subsidizing hybrid cars that use batteries that will pollute landfills for centuries.

    21.Over-regulate small firms out of business. Dry cleaners are a prime example.

    22.Fine farmers and ranchers for using traditional practices.

    23.Create a European-style Value Added Tax (VAT). Yes, they're still pushing for it.

    24.Legislate expansion of company-paid health insurance to cover everything from same sex "domestic partners" and autism to sex change operations.

    25.Lobby for mandating that companies pay for three weeks of paid vacation per year for all employees.

    26.Institute dozens of unfunded mandates from the Federal level, that must be compensated for with higher state, county, and local taxes.

    27.Increase license, permit, and vehicle registration fees. In progress. Meanwhile, institute "temporary" tax increases. These surtaxes on income, sales, or real property are described as "temporary." (But don't be surprised if they are not repealed.)

    28.Providing free education to illegal immigrants while levying taxes on home schooling families for services that they don't use.

    29.Make it illegal for owners to protect their livestock from predators.

    30.Remove the salary cap on Social Security tax "contributions". The liberal think tanks are pushing for it.

    31.Encourage a litigious society where huge lawsuits are filed over trifles, and where the makers of products can be sued even if product buyers intentionally misuse products.

    32.Implement carbon taxes and credits. Still in early stages of implementation.

    33.And lastly, the big one: Implement socialized medicine. Despite a strong public outcry, it is now Federal law. But thankfully there is a push to rescind part or all of it.

    There will be blood
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    FROM THE LONDON DAILY MIRROR

    A thoughtfully written piece in one of the most left wing newspapers in
    the UK. Just a word of background for those of you who aren't familiar
    with the UK's Daily Mirror. This is one of the most notorious Left wing,
    anti-American dailies in the UK. Hard to believe that the Daily Mirror
    actually published it, but it did.

    Begin article:

    ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting - the
    mass murder of thousands, live on television.

    As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was
    up there with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal
    bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.
    An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that
    surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate.
    Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the
    perpetrators truly evil. But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is
    increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism
    has increased over the last year.

    There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this
    country-too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier
    than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible
    to me. More than that, it turns my stomach.

    America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are
    bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a
    century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as
    well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon?

    And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children -
    not just Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a
    small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them?

    What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the
    planes was that we recognized them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's
    son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives. And children. Some
    unborn. And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is
    to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?

    These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
    Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The
    anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the
    Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering
    from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it
    likes without having to ask permission.

    The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since
    September 11. Remember, remember.

    Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to
    say, "I love you," before they were burned alive. Remember those people
    leaping to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers. Remember the
    hundreds of firemen buried alive. Remember the smiling face of that
    beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum.
    Remember, remember - and realize that America has never retaliated for
    9/11 in anything like the way it could have.

    So a few al-Qaeda terrorist got locked up without a trial in Camp X-ray?
    Pass the Kleenex.

    So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired
    their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but
    maybe next time they should stick to confetti.

    AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot.
    That it didn't is a sign of strength.

    American voices are already being raised against attacking Iraq - that's
    what a democracy is for. How many in the Islamic world will have a
    minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic
    leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 was an
    abomination?

    When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving
    Palestinians were dancing in the street. America watched all of that -
    and didn't push the button. We should thank the stars that America is
    the most powerful nation in the world. I still find it incredible that
    9/11 did not provoke all-out war. Not a "war on terrorism". A real war.

    The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell",
    if America attacks Iraq. Well, America could have opened the gates of
    hell like you wouldn't believe. The US is the most militarily powerful
    nation that ever strode the face of the earth. The campaign in
    Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq
    may be misconceived.

    But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these
    wretched countries. How many democracies are there in the Middle East,
    or in the Muslim world? You can count them on the fingers of one hand
    -assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.

    I love America, yet America is hated. I guess that makes me Bush's
    poodle. But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in
    Riyadh.

    Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be
    - rich, free, strong, open, optimistic. Not ground down by the past, or
    religion, or some caste system. America is the best friend this country
    ever had and we should start remembering that. Or do you really think the
    USA is the root of all evil?

    Tell it to the loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death
    from the burning towers.

    Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked
    planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper.

    And tell it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the
    New York Fire Department. To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press
    than Saddam Hussein.

    Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people
    and set up rape-camps in Kuwait. Now we are told he likes Quality
    Street. Save me the orange centre, oh mighty one!

    Remember, remember,

    September 11. One of the greatest atrocities in human history was
    committed against America.

    No, do more than remember. Never forget.

    Clint Van Zandt
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thought I might pass this along and I encourage you to do the same to your friends and loved ones.Apparently what started out in California has began to spread quickly through out the Country as Gang iniation.They pull up to you at a Red Light,Stop sign ETC.They have a rag which has been Dowsed in Gasoline,then wrapped up tightly in Aluminum Foil,with a small wick protruding threw the foil.They randomely search for stopped Vehicles with the,or a window down.Then they toss the home made bomb into the window,and while your fumbling around it makes a small explosion.So far five People have died,and seven have been injured.If this happens to you,get out of the vehicle.Dont try to throw it back out,QUICKLY EXIT the vehicle.Police are encourageing Motorist not to stop with their windows down.Please be aware at all times as small areas throughout the Country have been hit.INFORMATION RECIEVED 8-12 02 VIA Teletype.

    Rugster
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just got done watching "We Were Soldiers" and it really hit home this time. I just want to thank all of you on here who have served, anyone in your family who have served, and anyone you know who have served. This isn't limited to any single war either.

    I ask that whenever any of us see veterans or those currently serving that we take the time to thank them for their sacrifices.

    I don't want this thread to become a debate on war and whether or not this country should have been in wars or not. That doesn't matter 15, 30 or 100 years later. The fact is that those have served and they deserve, at the very least, our respect.

    Anyone that would like to share stories or anything from their time in the service, I'd love to read it. I want to learn as much as I can about our country's past and there's not much better sources than those who had the most important roles.

    Thank you again.
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
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    you are blessed with both."








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  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is important for those of you who do not frequent the politics forum, to have this info. It was here, Pig moved it. Please go read it, it is very much worth your time. And actually, this was originally in GD posted by 357 in '04, so...
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=264617
    Thanks for taking the time[:)]
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    everyone please take a look at auction 12674961 and please give this seeler a history lesson i dont think the guy could sell a good fake if he tried i dont know how to post web address

    the thing that scares me is that we could be living in someone else's own reality
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    eBay has several.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    quamnet: I have a Matthews dealer right down the road from me what do you need ? I also happen to live only 3 miles from the factory so if there is any thing I can help you out with , that is within reason I sure will try
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    GSKYHAWK...if there was anyone that could help me i should have figured it would be you! You are the same one who set me up with the special edition Remington 7400 that I and no one else ever knew about. Actually I am looking to buy a bow. I am going next week to one place in town to see if I can get a used one because they have over 400. But if that doesn't work out, maybe I could send you some money to pick me up a new one. If that is not asking too much, but to be honest, I think I'm going to find one at this place. Thanks though so much for offering to help. Let me know if there is anything I could ever do for you though.
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You're welcome.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Im sorry thank you too. I did look on ebay and they did have several. I do appreciate your help too.
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good Luck.

    Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food; frequently, he must have a beverage.
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    quamnet: that would not be a problem, if you are looking for a certain model and what do know what prices are in my area just let me know and I will give the dealer a call and find out what his cost is, I know from asking him before that he is not allowed by Matthews to ship bows out to different areas, they have dealership territories that they are not suppose to cross, but yes if it comes down to it I would be willing to buy it for you, also he is open wed thru sunday ,, just let me know ,,later Rich
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    it is best to buy a new/used bow from a dealer who can set the bow up to you. Bows are not like guns, they have to be fitted. If you mail order a bow you will have to find someone who can set it up for you and retime it after setting draw length.
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I understand that bows are much more "custom fitted" then guns. But I have been fitted and basically know what I am looking for. I am looking at a Matthews Legacy w/ 27 in. draw length. I have decided that I want a 60 lbs bow, but I am undecided to whether I want a 70 lbs. one that I can turn down to 60, or a 60 lbs. bow that has the option of going down to 50 lbs. I know the new ones are pretty expensive, so I am hoping I can get a used one for half the cost. Just a matter of finding one that fits.....
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I understand that bows are much more "custom fitted" then guns. But I have been fitted and basically know what I am looking for. I am looking at a Matthews Legacy w/ 27 in. draw length. I have decided that I want a 60 lbs bow, but I am undecided to whether I want a 70 lbs. one that I can turn down to 60, or a 60 lbs. bow that has the option of going down to 50 lbs. I know the new ones are pretty expensive, so I am hoping I can get a used one for half the cost. Just a matter of finding one that fits.....
  • gskyhawkgskyhawk Member Posts: 4,773
    edited November -1
    quamnet; checked on price ofter seeing what you where looking for new Legacy is $680 plus tax of 37.40 for a total of $717.40 and comes with 1/2 dozen arrows .. I'm sure you could leave off the arrows for the tax. also asked if he has in a used one and he said no, maybe next year but not now these bows are still too new.. said he has about a dozen or so on hand
  • EVILDR235EVILDR235 Member Posts: 4,398 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    We have a archery board?
    Dr.Evil
  • quamnetquamnet Member Posts: 332 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thanks gskyhawk...that is a little more than im looking to spend though...i will see what I can find around here...if i wait and look long enough there is always a deal to be made...thanks again
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