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Oh No,,,, I knew it!

guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
Well, they are already saying the offer from the goverment ain't enough for their losses. Well, not to sound too insensitive, but people are being killed unjustly every day in America. Do these people feel they should get a ton of money because they lost someone on Sept. 11. Is the goverment gonna give everybody cash that watched this happen? I think it is a crock, if they want to sue.... let them, that's how anybody else has to do it. Hey, it sucks this had to happen, and I wish I could change it all just like everyone else, but we can't. I don't remember all this cash outlay after the Ok City bombing.

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  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    Think the govt is trying to save the airlines' butts.
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Somr think the goverment is the lottery, and a family members death now give them the winning ticket...Anyone remember the value of a serviceman's life during WWI...WWII...Korea...Vietnam? In some cases it was just enough for burial costs. Sad display of greed.....
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seen a lady who's bond trader husband was killed 9-11 sitting in a million dollar home complaining about how the offer ain't enough. Well, what would she had done if he would have just fell over dead from a heart attack? Poor finance planning is not the government's problem. Did we invest any of our money or did we spend without thrift? Hell I make a LOT less than this guy did and even I have enough life insurance to get my family by for awhile. What a crock.
  • luger01luger01 Member Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah. The Government "assistance" for 9/11 survivors and families is total B.S.!The biggest amounts go to the richest. Those whose head of household and only breadwinner was making $20k/year get the least. Of course, why would anyone expect those most in need would get adequate help while those who have millions in assets want it all?My plan:$250,000 per deceased victim. Triple that if they were the head of household. 10x that if they were part of the rescue crew.$100,000 per child left without one parent, $400,000 if both died from the attack. Decrease those amounts based on held assets. Those worth $1 million or more should receive 25% of the amounts. $10 million of more; 10%. Use a sliding scale for net worths between $250K and $1 million.Compensate companies who have helped their employees and families.Get the money from the Saudis and other Arabs who funded the whole damn thing! State that the survivors have the right to sue foreign sources of money, those who aid and abet the perps, and any of the terrorists and organizations.Also allow the survivors to be the instrument of death for convicted terrorists. Let them "throw the switch" if they choose!Oh, and sue the parents of Taliban John for supporting this terrorist both morally and financially!
  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I feel the deepest sympathy for all the victims and their families for the 911 murderous assault.I gave to the Red Cross to help alleviate their suffering.But I cannot understand why our give-a-mint is using my tax dollars to pay a fortune those unfortunate people. Instant millionairs? Pardon me while I go puke. [This message has been edited by badboybob (edited 12-24-2001).]
  • s.guns.gun Member Posts: 3,245
    edited November -1
    I once was offered a job where I was told;here is the job and it pays this much money,if you consider it an acceptible risk.
  • ThePaladinThePaladin Member Posts: 32 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't understand why you would offer 10x to the rescue crew. They knew what their job was when they applied. They were trained to be there. Can't think of many people in the towers that KNEW their job was high risk.Compensation, Ok, but the secretary on the floor that the plane hit had no clue his/her life was in danger. Most firemen/police Officers know their job is dangerous, but do it anyway.(Ask their Wife's if it's dangerous.) Even my job is dangerous. So If I get killed in an accident, it won't be a surprise to my Wife and Daughter. The people that deserve the MOST compensation are the ones that refused to put their lives in danger, but died anyway.
  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know it does smack a little of the lottery. An awful lot of soldiers, marines, and sailors came home from VietNam and a lot of other places in body bags. They received their Servicemans Insurance and that was it. The money raised by all of the fireman's boots across the country after 9-11 should do quite a bit to offset the tragic loss for the families involved....but this government payoff really does smack of the lottery to me. Really wish it had not been done. It lessens the sacrifices of others. Does CIA agent Spahn's family and the families of the three Green Berets get this money? I really don't think so. It really does cause me more than a little reflection. Beach
  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know, I'm glad to hear that I am not the only one who feels this way. I stewed on this for a few days before I posted it. Why just these people? It goes to show how screwed up the legal system is, that the feds would offer this bribe money so victims can't sue the airlines. Well, like it's their fault. No law against box cutters at the time!
  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The whole thing embarrasses me. This whole thing pulled us together as a country, and now it's pulling us apart again with litigation. I'm a die-hard capitalist, but that's earned money. There has been more than one time that I could have sued someone and won, but I like to sleep well at night knowing that I'm, if nothing else, honest. I honor the memory of the brave men who died, and are dying, in the course of their chosen duty, and I have all the sympathy in the world for those who died just going about their simple workaday lives, but this is just too much. This litigation will go on for years, and I myself, if I were in the guts of Afghanistan, would have to think to myself: "I'm risking my life to preserve peoples' right to SUE?????" "HUH"??????.What do you do if you're in the government's shoes? Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Our big Christmas celebration is always on Christmas Eve, and the wife has gone to bed, but I hear, still, my kids laughing from the other room, playing with their "bounty" of the day. Getting quieter, they'll fall asleep soon, innocent and happy with toys galore and full bellies in the land of plenty. And will have to grow up walking on eggshells so nobody sues them. Where do these people think the money is coming from?????????????????????????????The sky?????????????????????????????????They'll be footing part of the bill themselves! Too hard to figure out????????GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nationalize all assets tied in any way to the Taliban and split it. Done. Over. That's it. Sorry. Merry Christmas, gang!!
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Glad someone else started this. Pissed me off too but I hated to be the first to say it. We complain about welfare for the poor people & here they are handing out over a million each to rich folks. At least the Democrats give to the poor. Told you all along I ain't rich enough to be a Republican.
  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm probably less wealthy than you, gruntled, but it would seem that these "Hollywood democrats" have never given their offer of opening their mansions to the homeless, and where did all of that money go that was raised from the "free publicity" concerts and such?? Is that not enough? Or perhaps Bill and Hillary will open their house and give some of their "legal defense fund" towards the families of those killed. Think so? Have you seen any PERSONAL Kennedy wealth ever go to the poor? Have you seen any PERSONAL wealth of any democrat go to the poor? Nope, just OUR money, which is also the money confiscated from the "working poor" in taxes. Same can be said for the republicans. I'm neither, but I generally vote republican, because they don't penalize success. The democrats penalize the people who own businesses for being successful, but exempt the Hollywood folks who further their agenda. Almost all politicians are hypocrites anyway. Here are four new laws for you: Every person in the House or Senate has their salary directly tied to the median income of the district that they represent. That's what they earn, period. 2. All government employees have the same choice of health care programs that we do, barring none. It comes out of their own pocket, like ours does. 3. The staff of any government official is paid from that official's salary. Period. 4. All government officials' taxes shall be based on the median tax imposed upon the people that they represent.
  • usmc2498215usmc2498215 Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ya gotta wonder what the families of the victims of Oklahoma feel, maybe they should be compensated, or say, all the victims families of other terrorist acts, or how about compensating the 2700+ families from all the sailors killed at Pearl Harbor, hey lets just compensate everybody for the pain & suffering we all feel just reading about this crap. When I went to Vietnam, I had to pay for a Government sponsored Insurance policy that would have paid my folks $10,000 bucks if I got killed. Now if anyone else is killed or injured from something deemed a terrorist act, guess what, they, or their families will be out there yelling "show me the money"....America, what a country!
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