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The Amazing AK-47 Sniper Rifle
Bullzeye
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http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=4682638
Now, perhaps I'm just missing something, but based on those pictures, doesnt that just look like a MAK-90 with a slightly longer barrel and a set of faux-wood furniture? Not to mention that dreadful thumbhole stock...
Please do inform me if it turns out to be otherwise, because I think it's pretty momentous that the AK-47 joins the ranks of the PSG-1 and the Barrett Light Fifty when you give it an extra 3 inches on the barrel.
Edited by - Bullzeye on 07/23/2002 03:13:31
Now, perhaps I'm just missing something, but based on those pictures, doesnt that just look like a MAK-90 with a slightly longer barrel and a set of faux-wood furniture? Not to mention that dreadful thumbhole stock...
Please do inform me if it turns out to be otherwise, because I think it's pretty momentous that the AK-47 joins the ranks of the PSG-1 and the Barrett Light Fifty when you give it an extra 3 inches on the barrel.
Edited by - Bullzeye on 07/23/2002 03:13:31
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The only bad thing about choosing a Kimber ...
... there are so darn many models to choose from!
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? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
lets all be responsible! shoot a criminal! Remember 0% of firearms pull there own trigger!
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"If cowardly & dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary...and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Calling rifles 'sniper' has the same degree of accuracy as calling some semi-automatics 'assault'. There is NO difference between a decent hunting or target rifle and a 'sniper' rifle and calling a bolt action scoped rifle 'sniper' will result in the same thing as happened to semi-automatic rifles with detachable mags and black stocks - it will get them banned!!!
We fall into the traps set by the anti-gun folks when we adopt their vocabularies to refer to OUR areas of expertise.
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It is admittedly not nearly as accurate as one of it's floating-barrel American counterparts, but it uses the 7.62x54R (instead of the 7.62x39R) which is, although not the best round in terms of BC, still very suitable for long range.
It also uses a short-stroke instead of a long-stroke like the AK uses, so that also increases it's semi-automatic accuracy.
And when you consider that most war sniping distances are under 500 yards, and most police sniping distances are under 200 yards, it still does the job just fine.
Plus, it has that characteristic of all Kalashnikov-based rifles: utter reliability under all conditions. And to the Soviets, that was more important than anything.
Edited by - Bullzeye on 07/23/2002 13:46:43
Duh! A grown-up who knows about such matters says there is no such thing, per se, as a 'sniper' rifle. And goes on to warn you of the consequences of using the term. Geez, switch hands or something, boy.
Clouder..
switch hands hee hee
Clouder and '06 said it.
Clouder didnt say anything. He never does. He just spontaneously vomits onto his keyboard and it produces letters.
And you're as much of a friggin' moron for agreeing with him. Your name suits you well.
Clouder, you'd think you could be a little less obvious about what your multiple identities are.
Super chicken and punchy, eh? You probably could have thought those out a little more.
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That some Chinese Communist is attempting to market a tricked out AK47 as a sniper "RIFLE" does NOT mean that there is any such thing. Chinese Communist marketers are not known as a source for English grammar and usage.
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
I won't even argue the point about me being a friggin moron. Might be, might not, I would rather keep my posts short and let people wonder than to act like some and erase all doubt.
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Eric S. Williams
Edited by - E.Williams on 07/23/2002 16:27:07
Edited by - E.Williams on 07/23/2002 16:31:08
I can only assume they wanted to use their own cartridge instead of bothering with trying to produce .308. I bet they also had a lot of if lying around, being that the Mosin-Nagant, the Maxim, the Degtyarev DP, DT, and DTM, the DShK and the Goryunov heavy machine gun all took 7.62x54R. It was a real mainstay of the Soviet army for a long time.
The term "sniper rifle" had a very specific meaning which the media has distorted and used as a catch-all for basically any rifle with a telescopic scope. They did the same with the term "assault rifle", and "machine gun".
Eric S. Williams
Edited by - E.Williams on 07/23/2002 17:20:03
The Russians had been using 7.62x54 for a long time, like I said, and it worked well for them. This was in the era where every single army in the world used .30-caliber almost exclusively. We had the .30-06, the British had the .303, the Germans had the 8mm, and the Russians had the 7.62x54. All of them, with minor modifications to suit each country's individual preferences, were more or less equal performance wise.
When the .308 was developed and became the optimum .30-caliber cartridge of choice, the Chinese probably modified some of the large stock of Dragunovs they had to fire the .308. I'm not sure if they modified the rifle in any way other than the chambering, but I doubt it. The rifle is perfectly good the way it was originally designed.
I seriously doubt that it's worth $1700.
And since it was built from the ground up as a sniper weapon, I'm sure it's more accurate than the M1. That's not a slam against the M1, but one's an infantry rifle and the other's a sniper rifle. Case closed.
"Just my opinion."
Nuthin wrong with the way those M1C and M1D Garands hit their targets with the -06 at 600 yards.
Edited by - Super Chicken on 07/24/2002 00:34:48
what kind of accuarcy can you expect from a romak 3 and out to how far.
It never ceases to amaze me how fast and how far you can dig yourself into a hole, and yet, never quite realize it! Arguing with Clouder & those that agree with him (simply because they agree with him) is really kinda, well, juvenile. Oh well, if the shoe fits?!
At least you're still hangin' in there, I gotta give ya that.
Matt
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