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shameful group of people....

shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
edited November 2016 in General Discussion
First class...try no class...most of them probably don't even know what a Gold Star family is. I hope they see this story, realize that this is about them and are ashamed. [V]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/19/father-fallen-soldier-says-plane-passengers-booed-family.html

The father of an Army soldier killed in Afghanistan says he and his family were booed as they flew to meet his son's body coming home.

Sgt. John Perry, 30, was killed in a suicide attack at Bagram Airfield on Saturday, along with Pfc. Tyler Iubelt and two American contractors. Stewart Perry told KOVR-TV his son stopped the suicide bomber short of his target and may have saved hundreds of lives.

Perry told the Army Times the booing took place on an American Airlines flight that landed in Phoenix Monday. Perry and his family were flying from Sacramento to Dover Air Force Base.

The captain told everyone to remain seated to let the Perry family leave first to make their connection.

"When he made that announcement, there was some hissing and some booing behind us," Perry told the Army Times.

Perry, a Marine veteran, doesn't remember the captain telling everyone the reason they had to stay seated. He recalled the captain mentioned "military personnel."

But he said he believes the passengers knew there was a Gold Star family on board. "The woman sitting directly behind us touched me on the shoulder and asked if I was the father of the soldier killed in Afghanistan," he told the Army Times.

However, Perry told The Stockton Record that he didn't know if the passengers knew there was a Gold Star family on board. He did say the captain told passengers a "special military family" had to leave first.

Perry added, "It was just disgusting behavior from people in first class. It was terrible to see."

4 AMERICANS KILLED IN SUICIDE BOMBING AT US BASE IN AFGHANISTAN

Perry said the pilot of the plane that would take them east made sure he and his family made the connection.

"To hear the reaction of the flight being delayed because of a Gold Star family, and the first class cabin booing that was really upsetting, and it made us cry some more," he told KOVR.

Sgt. Perry will be laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery.

Comments

  • jarjar Member Posts: 620 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have come to the conclusion that since they ended the draft that respect has been on the decline. I did not serve our country because of a terminally ill mother , living on an operating hog farm and the fact that the draft ended not long after I signed up for it. But my father, grandparents, and many other family members have and I was raised in a military style household. in my opinion most of todays social problems stem from a great lack of respect Period! it may seem a simple analogy but the word respect and the very thought process of respect touches almost any situation you can dream up.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    disgusting behaviour by selfish people that have never put anything above their own ...sadly the family will have this memory to carry with their loss
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,108 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The real shame lies in the cultural rot and glamorization of such behavior championed by leftist DEMOCRATs in the media, pop culture, and GOVERNMENT education.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If true, it's disgusting
  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    If I was captain I would have deleted deboarding of the rest of the passengers for a 1/2 he or so.......
  • TooBigTooBig Member Posts: 28,559 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    American trash and more than likely Obama voters
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,019 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Welcome to the Barry USA,,,I kid you not, his behavior and a general disrespect for the USA "helps" people say, wth, who cares..? IMO.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think most of the people didn't know what a "Gold Star Family" was. I'd probably boo too if I thought that they were getting off first just because they were somehow special. They should have used something like a fallen soldier's family instead of a gold star family.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,681 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    I think most of the people didn't know what a "Gold Star Family" was. I'd probably boo too if I thought that they were getting off first just because they were somehow special. They should have used something like a fallen soldier's family instead of a gold star family.














    So you wouldn't wait the extra minute so a family, any family, could make their connection without showing them your *?

    It must be hell to be so self-important.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,987 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think it's more to do with air travel these days. A one hour plane trip taking 4 hours. Get there to check in and get searched. Wait. Get loaded up like cattle. Wait and etc. Then after lading told they had to wait until a "family" got off first.

    I reckon the folks "booing" didn't understand what "a Gold Star family" meant. I'd think some first class poser who paid for an up-up grade? Even if they did line cutting is line cutting.

    As for American Airlines it's just a step up from Southwestern [:D].
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Selective Service"...basic training teaches discipline and respect....[;)]
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A friend posted this on facebook about it.

    quote:This did not make a lot IOC sense. The family was sitting in first class (per the story) and get off first anyway. So it was only a few people on first class that had to wait. This is a non story. If someone wants to boo - it is rude but that's life. And yes I am a gold star wife.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus

    So you wouldn't wait the extra minute so a family, any family, could make their connection without showing them your *?

    It must be hell to be so self-important.


    I am important, dumb * but that's beside the point.

    They need to say what they mean instead of things like "Gold Star Family" so people would know what the hell they're talking about and then they wouldn't boo if it was a legitimate reason.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:

    They need to say what they mean instead of things like "Gold Star Family" so people would know what the hell they're talking about and then they wouldn't boo if it was a legitimate reason.


    Does someone need to explain "Special Education" to you, or do you boo those kids too?
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The article clearly states that the captain didn't mention there was a Gold Star family, but just that "military personnel" wanted to get off first. If he'd stated there was a Gold Star family I'm pretty sure there would have been no problems. I've been on many flights where there were military personnel going home and the passengers applauded for them and would stay seated so they can get off the plane first.

    Personally, if I was a passenger and they say anyone needs to catch a connection that they may miss, I would stay seated. Nothing special about military personnel, everyone deserves respect until they prove otherwise.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    quote:

    They need to say what they mean instead of things like "Gold Star Family" so people would know what the hell they're talking about and then they wouldn't boo if it was a legitimate reason.


    Does someone need to explain "Special Education" to you, or do you boo those kids too?


    You know what I'm talking about so don't act stupid!!
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by AzAfshin
    The article clearly states that the captain didn't mention there was a Gold Star family, but just that "military personnel" wanted to get off first. If he'd stated there was a Gold Star family I'm pretty sure there would have been no problems. I've been on many flights where there were military personnel going home and the passengers applauded for them and would stay seated so they can get off the plane first.

    Personally, if I was a passenger and they say anyone needs to catch a connection that they may miss, I would stay seated. Nothing special about military personnel, everyone deserves respect until they prove otherwise.

    It seems common courtesy. Gold Star Family. Military personnel. Someone trying to make a tight connection.

    WTH difference does it make? Act like an adult human, stay in your seat, and you will be delayed for a whopping 42 seconds.
  • LesWVaLesWVa Member Posts: 10,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "The captain told everyone to remain seated to let the Perry family leave first to make their connection.

    "When he made that announcement, there was some hissing and some booing behind us," Perry told the Army Times.

    However, Perry told The Stockton Record that he didn't know if the passengers knew there was a Gold Star family on board. He did say the captain told passengers a "special military family" had to leave first."


    Sounds like a lot of nothing being blown out of proportion by a someone playing the "pity me card" for attention..

    I think the Captain could have handled things a little better.
  • FrogdogFrogdog Member Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Regardless of the argument or situation, the act of "booing" shows a lack of class, period. [xx(]
  • AzAfshinAzAfshin Member Posts: 2,985 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
    So let me make a few random comments...

    We have a 100% volunteer military.

    The sharp end of our stick is made up solely of citizens exercising there patriotic free will to chose a career in the military - and they keep us safe.

    I imagine they represent less than 1% of our population.

    We should treat every single one of them as heros - active duty / gaurd / reserve / retired...

    That's it - game over - shut your pie hole and sit the F still.

    And I will get in your face and tell you so.

    Mike


    Exactly, a career. They are compensated for what they do. Only a small percentage of those in the military are there because they want to put their life on the line to keep the country safe. The majority are there because either they had no other career choices, or they are just following some family tradition. As such, not every person in the military deserves adulation or respect for their job any more than any other person that contributes to the betterment of society for doing their job.

    Also, unless you are a vet from WWI, WWII, or the C i v i l W a r, your presence there was not to protect us, but to protect the monetary interests of big business. You're welcome to get in my face and chew on some lead. But I'm personally sick of people who demand respect because they chose a JOB in the military.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,681 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus

    So you wouldn't wait the extra minute so a family, any family, could make their connection without showing them your *?

    It must be hell to be so self-important.


    I am important, dumb * but that's beside the point.

    They need to say what they mean instead of things like "Gold Star Family" so people would know what the hell they're talking about and then they wouldn't boo if it was a legitimate reason.



    I do not know how much you fly, but I have been on many delayed flights where the pilot asked passengers without tight connections to wait so that those with tight connections due to the delay would have a better chance of making their flights. I do not ever remember anyone making a stink about waiting, and every time, the vast majority of people in the plane waited so those who were in a hurry had the opportunity to leave first.

    It is called common courtesy. A concept that normal people (apparently less self-important people) understand implicitly and without an authority figure finger painting them a picture.

    I can't believe we are having this conversation.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    It's damn disappointing to see people so full of themselves, even members of this board.[xx(]
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Winston BodeWinston Bode Member Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If some azzhat had pulled that crap on the plane when we were flying to Virginia to see my son and sign the papers to donate his organs I swear I'd a killed someone with my bare hands. I was not in any state of mind to be held accountable for my actions.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus

    So you wouldn't wait the extra minute so a family, any family, could make their connection without showing them your *?

    It must be hell to be so self-important.


    I am important, dumb * but that's beside the point.

    They need to say what they mean instead of things like "Gold Star Family" so people would know what the hell they're talking about and then they wouldn't boo if it was a legitimate reason.



    I do not know how much you fly, but I have been on many delayed flights where the pilot asked passengers without tight connections to wait so that those with tight connections due to the delay would have a better chance of making their flights. I do not ever remember anyone making a stink about waiting, and every time, the vast majority of people in the plane waited so those who were in a hurry had the opportunity to leave first.

    It is called common courtesy. A concept that normal people (apparently less self-important people) understand implicitly and without an authority figure finger painting them a picture.

    I can't believe we are having this conversation.




    You guys are full of $%^Y^&. The only thing I said was not knowing what the hell Gold Star Family means could be the cause of people booing and that I might do it to if I didn't know what they were talking about. I got no problem letting people go first if they tell me just what the hell they're doing. Now you can kiss my * Don!!!

    And this is my last post on this BS!!
  • rambo rebelrambo rebel Member Posts: 4,028
    edited November -1
    pass the pop corn please.
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