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The New Sheriff In Town Wants Your Gun?
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The New Sheriff In Town Wants Your Gun.
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2008/06/new-sheriff-in-town-wants-your-gun.html
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2008/06/new-sheriff-in-town-wants-your-gun.html
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Nice.
Another Commie cop.
Too old to live...too young to die...
Sandra Hutchens makes her case to be the next O.C. sheriff
The Dana Point resident sees her L.A. County Sheriff's Department experience as the guide to correct O.C.'s problems.
By Christine Hanley, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 10, 2008
The man lurking in the shadows of a dark alley on New Year's Eve stopped Sandra Hutchens in her tracks.
Hutchens was responding to reports of gunfire in a tough Lynwood neighborhood and spotted him in an open doorway as she and her partner hunted for potential suspects near a converted garage.
A rookie deputy with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department when the confrontation took place nearly 30 years ago, Hutchens said she would never forget the deadly gun battle that ensued.
"He raised his gun. I fired three rounds," she recalled in an interview last week. "It stays with you. When you take somebody's life, I don't care who they are, you live with it forever. It's difficult."
The Los Angeles County district attorney's office found no criminal wrongdoing by Hutchens. Although a jury later awarded the man's family about $1 million in a wrongful-death lawsuit, Hutchens maintains in hindsight that she had no choice but to use deadly force that night.
A tough lesson learned, Hutchens said she used the incident as an example in teaching others throughout a career that took her from the streets of L.A. County, to inside the nation's largest jail system, and ultimately to division commander overseeing homeland security. Now she is one of two finalists to become Orange County's next sheriff.
Those who have worked closest with Hutchens say she has everything it takes to be sheriff, describing her as bright and a polished administrator who is trusted and respected by her troops and has the political savvy and street credibility for the job.
"She's very effective in getting people to do the right thing. She does that by example," said Los Angeles County Undersheriff Larry Waldie. "I think the world of her. I hated to lose her. I think she would be a great sheriff."
Dennis Dalhman, a retired Los Angeles County assistant sheriff who was a sergeant overseeing Hutchens at the Lynwood station, agreed. He said the way she coped with the shooting and the fallout spoke volumes about her character, surviving an event that has ended many law enforcement careers. "The people of Orange County couldn't do any better," he said.
But she faces at least one significant opponent in Supervisor Chris Norby. He pushed hard last week for the immediate appointment of Santa Ana Police Chief Paul Walters, arguing he was clearly the more qualified finalist.
Barely a year into retirement, the 53-year-old Hutchens lives in Dana Point with her second husband, Larry, a retired assistant police chief for the Los Angeles Unified School District, and their dog, Tucker. They have no children. She has a brother who works as a sheriff's deputy in L.A. County.
Hutchens, born in Monterey Park and raised in Long Beach, was hired in 1976 as a secretary for the Sheriff's Department a few years after graduating from Woodrow Wilson High. Initially interested in a career as a court reporter, she changed her mind after some deputies encouraged her to sign up, and she asked herself, "Did I want to sit in a courtroom and take notes on court cases, or did I want to be a part of it?"
With similar ambition, she decided to go for the Orange County sheriff's job. She couldn't stand being on the sidelines as she kept reading one newspaper story after another about the undoing of the department and its former leader, Michael S. Carona.
As a facilitator and instructor of ethics courses in Los Angeles County, Hutchens said, she taught deputies to "do the right thing, especially when no one is looking." And she became most incensed by a scathing grand jury report into the fatal beating of a Theo Lacy inmate that found deputies allegedly watched movies, napped or played video games while inmates enforced their own rules.
Confronting and fixing the problems at the 2,700-bed Theo Lacy facility is a challenge that county supervisors hope the next sheriff can quickly tackle. It is considered a critical first step in restoring the public's confidence in the department.
"If someone is not doing their job in a jail, they're not going to do a good job in the field either," she said.
She did three tours of duty at the Sybil Brand Institute, a women's facility built for 900 inmates. She worked first as a custody deputy and returned as a sergeant and then as a lieutenant.
In that time, the inmate population exploded to triple its capacity and the jail has since closed, with plans to be refurbished.
Hutchens and her supporters suggest that her experience working in the trenches of the nation's largest jail system, which has a population four times the size of Orange County's and has been plagued for years by violence and overcrowding, gives her an edge.
Unlike Walters, Hutchens has not fully embraced a priority of supervisors to replace sworn staff in jails with non-sworn civilian guards. She favors using a mix of sworn deputies, correctional officers and non-sworn civilians in the jails.
One of her concerns is that by relying exclusively on non-sworn civilians, the county would be shortchanged when fires or other natural disasters strike. During those events, jails can be locked down to free up a large pool of deputies.
Brunhilda in LA has two gold stars.
The more incompetent the police chief, the more gold stars on the shoulder straps.
You say she wants our guns.
What did she say regarding ownership of private firearms??
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=308294&SearchTerms=sheriff
Looks like she has developed quite the enemy following.[;)]
Trinity +++
Orange County, if my memory serves me correctly, was one of the best places (easiest) to get a CCW.
Orange County is a stronghold of Conservative Republican values. If she follows through, she will not last long there.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
If I lived out there a news conference would be the ideal thing to give her " Notice ". Notice I expect her dept. to protect me 24/7 365 days a year. First time someone harms me and I have no defense I will hold her dept. liable. Hell just call a jury now.You'd be wasting your time. Contrary to what most people think, no law enforcement agency in the US actually has any legal obligation to protect the public.
Remember watching all those folks on the evening news just running wild during the LA riots? Law enforcement outright refused to enter certain areas and simply left everyone to fend for themselves. In truth, calling 911 is only a hope of getting help - no guarantees at all. You have no legal recourse if the cavalry decides not to show up.
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
If I lived out there a news conference would be the ideal thing to give her " Notice ". Notice I expect her dept. to protect me 24/7 365 days a year. First time someone harms me and I have no defense I will hold her dept. liable. Hell just call a jury now.You'd be wasting your time. Contrary to what most people think, no law enforcement agency in the US actually has any legal obligation to protect the public.
Remember watching all those folks on the evening news just running wild during the LA riots? Law enforcement outright refused to enter certain areas and simply left everyone to fend for themselves. In truth, calling 911 is only a hope of getting help - no guarantees at all. You have no legal recourse if the cavalry decides not to show up.
Thats reassuring... Well in that case the county coroner can bring a hell of a lot of body bags.
Her evil twin in the photo, the DC chief, has 4 gold stars.
Brunhilda in LA has two gold stars.
The more incompetent the police chief, the more gold stars on the shoulder straps.
[:D][:D][:D][:D]
"Dear Sheriff Hutchens,
I carry a gun for self-defense and to protect my two daughters. I don't need your permission. That's more than enough good cause.
If you want my gun, come and get it if you dare *!"
Thats reassuring......and good to point out to those pro-gun control folks who don't see the need for people to have guns, saying "This isn't the wild west anymore, all you have to do is call 911". Their argument is hollow.
Even if they do respond as expected, remember that when seconds count the police are only minutes away.[;)]
Being on dial up I can't DL the video.
You say she wants our guns.
What did she say regarding ownership of private firearms??
Wulfmann
It's a link to a webpage, not a video. Here's a C&P of the article:
Wednesday, June 18, 2008
There's a new Sheriff in Orange County, California and she's vowed to review the concealed weapon permits issued by her deposed predecessor. Sandra Hutchens says she'll yank all permits where she does not feel there's a "good reason" for them.
Hutchens' old boss L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca never found a good reason to issue a permit in Los Angeles to anyone other than politicians and government bureaucrats. I expect Hutchens to revoke most of the permits issued and the local stalkers will read in the newspaper just who is no longer protected with a "legal" concealed weapon.
This is where common sense has to step in and civil disobedience needs to take over. The good citizens of Orange County need to ignore the Sheriff's arbitrary power over their very own life and death. For the sake of the lives of your family simply carry your gun if you feel the need to do so with or without a permit. Don't let some bimbo decide if your life and that of your family are worthy of protection outside of your home!
The Heller case is FIVE DAYS away from becoming the law of the land. I expect it will rewrite bans against the bearing of arms in the Bolshevik Republic of California.
Citizens of Orange County should tell their new Sheriff to pack her bags and get out of town, by sundown!
quote:But she faces at least one significant opponent in Supervisor Chris Norby. He pushed hard last week for the immediate appointment of Santa Ana Police Chief Paul Walters, arguing he was clearly the more qualified finalist.
it probably won't happen.
The best and so far only comment left on my blog:
"Dear Sheriff Hutchens,
I carry a gun for self-defense and to protect my two daughters. I don't need your permission. That's more than enough good cause.
If you want my gun, come and get it if you dare *!"
I think you were doing good until you got to the last line, there is no reason for that kind of name calling. People will not take your comments seriously when you add insults like that
no reason to insult the bimbo's, she only ranks as high as a * bag
I think you were doing good until you got to the last line, there is no reason for that kind of name calling. People will not take your comments seriously when you add insults like thatNot as personally satisfying, but correct.
quote:Originally posted by select-fire
Thats reassuring......and good to point out to those pro-gun control folks who don't see the need for people to have guns, saying "This isn't the wild west anymore, all you have to do is call 911". Their argument is hollow.
Even if they do respond as expected, remember that when seconds count the police are only minutes away.[;)]
If you're lucky, they're minutes away. In some jurisdictions, you wait for hours.
Well then, she can lead by example and she and her hubby can turn in all their shooty/stabby/shocky/clubby stuff and move to Watts.
quote:Originally posted by fizzer
What a cute couple...
quote:Originally posted by Defender
The best and so far only comment left on my blog:
"Dear Sheriff Hutchens,
I carry a gun for self-defense and to protect my two daughters. I don't need your permission. That's more than enough good cause.
If you want my gun, come and get it if you dare *!"
I think you were doing good until you got to the last line, there is no reason for that kind of name calling. People will not take your comments seriously when you add insults like that
Don't blame me for a comment someone left on my blog! That their Freedom of Speech! I think anyone who trys to prevent someone from defending themself deserves to be called names.... The shoe seems to fit quite well Cinderella!
Undersheriff Waldie is practicing his * kissing.
thank God for, heart attacks, breast cancer, osteoporosis, etc..
don't say that, totally awesome and talented women get those diseases too.
Although if that bee-yotch was under my LINAC I could not guarantee that it would not go into ray-gun mode [8D]
quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
quote:Originally posted by Defender
The best and so far only comment left on my blog:
"Dear Sheriff Hutchens,
I carry a gun for self-defense and to protect my two daughters. I don't need your permission. That's more than enough good cause.
If you want my gun, come and get it if you dare *!"
I think you were doing good until you got to the last line, there is no reason for that kind of name calling. People will not take your comments seriously when you add insults like that
Don't blame me for a comment someone left on my blog! That their Freedom of Speech! I think anyone who trys to prevent someone from defending themself deserves to be called names.... The shoe seems to fit quite well Cinderella!
Thought that was your comment, sorry.
quote:Originally posted by Defender
The best and so far only comment left on my blog:
"Dear Sheriff Hutchens,
I carry a gun for self-defense and to protect my two daughters. I don't need your permission. That's more than enough good cause.
If you want my gun, come and get it if you dare *!"
I think you were doing good until you got to the last line, there is no reason for that kind of name calling. People will not take your comments seriously when you add insults like that
that's a hilarious statement, he can prance around in women's clothing {see below}, and it ok, but mistakenly call someone a name and get called out on it{LOL}
http://www.zeldamccorville.com/2007/12/video-zelda-takes-aim-at-van-nuys-gun.html
was from a comment someone left on my blog.
Anyway who'd you rather have for Sheriff in charge of your gun permits Sandra or Zelda?[:o)][:D]
The mayor's office says a public hearing will be held to gather comment on today's order but it does not require city council approval.
Nickels says the added gun restriction is needed because of a shooting at last month's Folklife Festival at the Seattle Center that wounded two people.
Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske says the mayor's order will help protect people at civic events.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/441/story/384442.html