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Gun Safes

gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
i have a liberty gun safe. is it possible to beat it open with a sledge? if the police had a warrant how would they get into it if the owner wasn't there? only i have the combination. if i cash in could my wife hire a safe cracker?
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just got a gun safe and put it in the bassment
    I have a dehumidifier in the bassment would this keep
    moisture out of the safe or should I get a
    Goldenrod dehumidifier for in the safe?
    How about silica gel crystal packs would they be
    better?
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've finally decided it's time for a gun safe since my neighbors housed was recently broken in to. I poked around Cabelas website and saw a Sentry 14 gun safe that looked good, but have not done enough searching to make a commitment on anything. Does Sentry have a good rep? Are there better brands out there in the same price range? ($1500 max) I'll need storage for about 15 guns, and plan on getting a firelined safe just for extra safety. I guess my question is, what brands should I look at / features to check for, etc. Thanks for your help.
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anyone ever heard of a Winchester Gun Safe?...whats the dope?
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Finally got a safe (Remington E23). Any advise on moving, location, etc. would be appreciated. I have a walkout basement with easy access hidden fron view so not sure that is best location. Would like to put it in the den above the garage but don't know if floor can handle the weight (510lbs). Any suggestions? Thanks.
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been doing some research on a new gun safe. I think I want the Zanotti one. Does have any experience with this safe? It looks like you take it in the house in pieces and you put it together. I found their site out of shotgun news. www.zanottiarmor.com

    Let me know if these are good safes.

    Thanks in advance

    Andy
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The article about the E-Z open gun safe got me to thinking about getting one. I've thought about it before but hadn't given it much priority.
    Would youse troops be kind enough to give me some input from your experience with different safes? I can't afford one of the really expensive ones so try to keep the price reasonable please.

    Mudge the suddenly paranoid

    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!<BR>
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been noticing alot of post on gun safes on multiple forums lately. I mean many more than usual. Is there something to this? Or did everyone just decide to get a safe at the same time[?]
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well dad is starting to look at a few gun safes snice his house has been hit twice
    any good choics that wont brank the bank hes 70 and is on a budget

    he looked at the ones at wal-mart but I told him not to waist his money on those as i did not think they would hold up to a robber.


    taz
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    has anyone seen or heard of pentagon gun safes.
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am looking at getting a couple of those heavy fire proof gun safes. What is the best kind to get? If there is a fire can they get hot enough inside to do any damage to the guns such as melting the finish or any other type of damage?
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ive been looking at safes for quite some time now and found what I feel to be a very good bargain. Last night I went to Walyworld (Walmart) and they have a Sentry 14 gun safe for $329.00 It is completely lined and to my amazement has 5, 1-1/2" locking lugs and the body is 1/8" enamel covered steel. I am going to put it on lay away this evening and make weekly payment until its paid for.

    When Clinton left office they gave him a 21 gun salute. Its a damn shame they all missed....




    Edited by - 4GodandCountry on 09/03/2002 10:44:41
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  • gp52555gp52555 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've decided I need to buy a gun firesafe, and was wondering if placing it in my garage would be safe storage for the guns. I live in the Texas "Hill Country" where temperatures can get as high as 105 degrees in the summer and as low as 25 degrees in the winter. Humidity is usually around 40 to 60%. Would my guns be safely protected in this environment.
    Thanks for any advice.
    Koolkoins
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Moving it? Use a heavy duty dolly like the ones from U-Haul. Get help.When figuring if the floor will support the weight, add in the weight of the guns. Figure the area of the safe bottom, and compute the pounds per square inch. You may want to consult a construction engineer or your homebuilder.My safe sits on a plywood floor over 8 inch floor joists on 16" centers. I was able to get under the floor, so to be on the safe side, I shored it up with blocks and wedges.
    Certified SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of the General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the premier gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net Jesus is Lord!
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Best way to move it?....tell your friends there is a pizza party and free beer at your house.....(don't tell them why or you'll get a lot of excuses about bad knees and backs), when they all show up, don't feed them until the safe gets moved, that' how I got mine moved!
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    approximately 20 degrees & 33.36 minutes...[This message has been edited by Otoman (edited 11-24-2001).]
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    Now, the last time I had to move a safe, I moved it from my house to my shop. Dolly trip from house to shop, but then it had to be lifted straight up and into the door. I told my older son to round up some of his buddies for the job. Enough big strong boys showed up that I just showed them where I wanted it and there they put it.
    Certified SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of the General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the premier gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net Jesus is Lord!
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    When I purchased my safe, Fort Knox 24" deep X 31" wide X 60" tall, I was in the process of finishing my basement. We moved the safe into position with a commercial dolly, and positioned it inside of a closet area which I then framed in and drywalled around it. It sits hidden from casual view inside of a closet, on the concrete floor of the daylight basement, secured to the floor by 8"L 3/8"Dia. Lag bolts and I added 10 bags of #7 1/2 shot from my reloading room. In addition to this one of my best buds is a rep for a well known national alarm company. A half rack and some BBQ brots set me up with a motion alarm inside the closet as well as in the hallway acessing the room.
    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!
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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Browning gun safe weighs in at around 1500# empty. When we built our new house, we uses my boom truck to lower it into the basement, and they built the whole house around it! Thats a fact! When we moved it out of the old house, we built a wood frame to lay it over onto it's side, and rolled it out of the house on wooden clothes hanger rods. Worked great! It is alot easier if you can remove the door and move it in two parts.Scott the rigger......
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Y'all remember me talking about that old ford f-350 I have? It has a jib crane on the back, great for moving heavy junk. Wife just doesn't understand
    Have Gun, will travel
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rembrandt has the best idea. My boss pulled that one on me last Friday night. He told me that I was invited for Hamms beer(mmm..quality) and lasagna that his wife was making. I arrived to find that I was in the middle of a moving party. New furniture was being delivered the next day and the old had to go into the basement.
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    So Dano-Do both of you pump iron or is it just one, and not the other?? Besides with two of you it shouldn't be a problem anyways!
    Reserving my Right to Arm Bears!!!!
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  • cornhuskercornhusker Member Posts: 7 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try using a couple of handfulls of golf balls. Drop them on the floor and set the safe on them and roll it anywhere you want. Just keep moving the balls from back to front as you go. Works great after you get it into the house. I rolled mine about 40 feet across carpet and thru 3 doors with no problem.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Didn't the Egyptians use golf balls to roll the pyramids into place?
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    The design live load for most residential homes is 40 PSF. You didn't say what size your safe is but I'm sure that it is double or triple that. Don't panic. Floors designs account for some concentrated loading. Since most safes are placed against the wall and probably near the ends of the floor joists this should be ok. It's not going to fall through the floor. If you can place the safe near the outside 1/3 of the joist span and span as many joists as possible you won't place undue stress on your floor. As for moving it, rolling sections of pipe under it works or piano moving dollys should work (they are designed for heavy loads and have good handles).[This message has been edited by dakotashooter2 (edited 11-26-2001).]
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    All I can say is don't assume your floor will hold the weight, do the research some of the previous posts have recommended. In college my roommate and myself each had our own waterbed (both queen size). I asked the landlord in the house we rented if the floor was strong enough to hold them and he assured me it was fine. Well, after one school-year the floor had sagged over a foot!! The landlord ended up having to use a long jack and braces to return the floor to it's original location and prevent it from sinking again...Good luck!
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  • Darin SperlingDarin Sperling Member Posts: 291 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If locating safe on framed floor. Locate over a bearing wall or beam. Locate near the bearing end of joists. Choose short span joists. Consult engineer (I'd be happy to answer questions). If locating on concrete slab on grade, watch for cracking in slab. Cracking indicates distress in concrete due to overload or bad sub-grade.
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Saxon you call those little bitty Arkansas hills mountains?
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