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Could there be any doubt?
steve45
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Been reading the papers about the priest problems with boys and wondered, could there be any doubt that homosexual scoutmasters would have been molesting Boy Scouts?
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You're not going to get anywhere with this so let it be. Most here are died-in-the-wool red-necks and proud of it (and rightly so) They learned their bigotry at home and those kind of lessons stick.
Your position is unpopular as you will soon see.
Clouder..
Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
I think your premise is faulty, therefore I cannot provide a valid answer.
Now, let's go at this slow. First flame and I'm done.
Clouder..
But to go along with the "sexual orientation" B.S. and to recognize it as just another accepted lifestyle means that before long we'll be having the same argument about necrophilia, *, pedophilia and all the rest of the deviant sexual perversions. How much longer before those acts are considered just another "sexual orientation?" Just another accepted lifestyle?
Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
I don't fear them, I am disgusted by them.
Yes, the other perverse acts I listed ARE illegal, but then, so was homosexuality before the liberals started running the show. If we accept homosexuality as a normal course of life then how long before the other perversions are no longer illegal? It's happening already, with the ACLU and other groups defending people's actions (NAMBLA) that 50 years ago would've got the perpetrator immediately strung-up. How long before THOSE laws are changed and virtually any sexual perversion is just another "orientation?"
For me, this has nothing to do with religion.
Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
In my case of fear of homosexuality, it's not.
It's a hatred. Not without reason.
You cant honestly say that they do not try to push thier agenda on children. I have basically quit watching television for that reason.
I am tired of the "gay" shows telling everyone that is perfectly acceptable. I have even heard stories about them teaching it in schools.
I do agree they have rights just like the rest of us. Thier lifestyle is thier business until they start telling my kids it is the right thing to do. Then it becomes mine.
As far as God speaking for himself; He already has. Read the book of Romans.
And let's stop this "gay" s**t. Thay're QUEER.
PC=BS
homosexuals must recruit they cannot reproduce.
Happiness is a warm gun
What is the average age of Boy Scouts? Is that not a crime if they engage is sexual relations? What is your defination of pedophilla?
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
your children and grandchildren. It is not O.K. with me. Kids
look up to there roll models and teachers are at the top of the
list. REALITY is that teaching alternate life styles is tought in
schools everyday. I can't be recruited and you can't be recruited
but our children are more venerable.
I am offended whenever I see anything overtly homosexual (or anything vulgar at all) in a public place. Homosexuality revolts me. However I do not hate all of them, just the types that march in parades and demand special treatment. I have known several that it was impossible to know for sure, so long as they don't bother me they can do as they see fit.
"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." -Plato
~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets
the switch hitters. In this instance you are talking about people who can make a choice & who can't claim they were born this way.
Even in the case of a born homosexual there is still the option
of chastity.
I tend to agree that as long as long as they don't scare the horses
what they do in private dosn't concern me. I do take offense when
they find it necessary to make their actions public. I also take
offense when they expect me to pay the cost of their medical
expenses caused when they get AIDS. If what they do is none of my
bussiness then the cost of what they do is none of my bussiness either.
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Just to reiterate what I said there, realistically, there really only ARE two political philosophies. If you support queers, you are also supporting gun control, world government, and socialism. I wish the issues could be seperated, but I regret it seems it is a "package deal".
For the record, I couldn't care less if the queers "f" each other 'til the cows come home. Homophobic? Well, the liberals love to use this term, because they love to paint macho guys as being secretly cowards. I prefer (AND USE!) the term, "homorevoltic", which much better reflects my feelings and denies the liberal scum thier little jab. Where I have a problem is when they feel they have to shove their lifestyle CHOICE (not reality) on everyone else. And yes, putting queers into the woods with young boys is a VERY bad idea.
I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.--Voltaire~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
Am I to infer that you think that you think it is OK for a homosexual to be a Boy Scout leader. Did you not hear the words of William81?
What is the average age of Boy Scouts? Is that not a crime if they engage is sexual relations? What is your defination of pedophilla?
Why do you refuse to answer these questions?
I am not obsessed with this issue, nor do I hate homosexuals.
I just want you to clarify you position.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
The homosexual agenda is being carried out just like the gun control agenda. A little bit at a time until the whole deed is done.
Today a large portion of the population has been indoctrinated into treating homosexuals like another discriminated-against minority. Political correctness tells us we should accept them as a normal part of life.
Tomorrow it'll be the pedophiles, the necrophiliacs, the people who practice * who the liberals will be defending and anyone who disagrees with their perverted ways of life will be labeled a bigotted hate-monger
Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
AMEN
I found SCREWED UPs comment about how homosexuality has been removed from the "mental illness category", very interesting. It is very possible that the medical and scientific community can be swayed into offering an opinion based on pressure from "special intrest groups"
Case in point: When the Aids epidemic started, it was located predominantly in California, with a high percentage of aids carriers living in San Francisco. It was also noticed that it was homosexuals who were being infected with the disease(at the beginning, only homosexuals were getting the disease). It soon became apparent that homosexual activity was causing this epidemic, and there was much talk about closing thge bath houses down, because everyone knew what was going on in there. The city was planning on putting out public service announcemtns, basically telling the homsexual community that there behavior is spreading a deadly disease. The city officials were going to close the bath houses down., but the homosexual community went nuts. They felt that the public service announcemtn, plus the closing of the bath houses, was an attack on their lifestyle. It was decided(by Barbera Boxer or Dianne Feinstein, whoever was mayor at the time)to not close the houses, and to offer a public service announcemtn which said ALL sexual behavir(hetero and homo) placed you at risk.This was all done so not to offend the homosexual community. Now what this did was make EVERYONE virtually ignore the announcement. I mean, who is going to stop havin sex? If the announcement specifically targeted homosexuals, then homosexuals might have listened a little better, and took action to prevent the chance of getting aids. But by saying EVERYONE was at risk, it was basically ignored. So because of the "politics" of not wanting to offend the homosexuals, homosexuals continued their destructive behavior, and many contracted the disease.The truth was ignored, because the truth was too politically "offensive" for the administration.
The health of the community was not the issue-the issue was making sure no one was offended by the truth-and many people contracted that disease because of that politically correct policy.
Happiness is a warm gun
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I am not a biologist who has studied this topic...
And obviously not a sociologist either.
Reason has never won over hate and never will.
Give it up, boys. It's a polarizing issue.
Clouder..
Disagree with the Bush plan for amnesty for illegal aliens or speak out against reperations for certain minority groups and you become a racist.
Disagree with ANY biblical concept and you're ENLIGHTENED!!
What a bunch of CRAP!
"How can otherwise intelligent, seemingly well educated individuals be so completely lacking in common sense and reason."
Steve45. I think you are still mixing homosexuality with pedophilia. Indeed being a scout master would be a good way for a pedophile to get close to children. But, and it is a big but, pedophiles are not necessarily oriented toward boys or girls, some are, but many just like children, and they frequently do in fact work in vocations or avocations where they have access to children. In the loosest sense, I suppose those that like only boys are homosexual pedophiles, but does that somehow make them worse than the pedophiles that like only little girls? I cannot imagine anyone, except a pedophile, defending the actions of pedophiles. They are reprehensible in the extreme.
On some other points: The children raised by gay couples are not more likely to be gay than the children raised by straight couples, even those that hate gays. It is still 3%-5%. That argues that it is more likely nature. If in fact there is a genetic component, which is unknown at this time, but will be known, I would predict the percentage of gays increases as human population increases. Because homosexual behavior occurs in many species of animals, other primates as well as hoofed stock for example, one would have to argue that there must be a genetic component, since it is hardly likely that anyone would accuse cows of embracing perversion.
You may think of gays as you wish. My purpose is not to convert everyone to a tolerant attitude, but rather to say simply that pedophiles and gays are not the same thing at all.
Dano, I am sorry if I too misunderstood you. I also took your suggestion of a solution as very dark, and if that is not what you meant, I apologize for jumping to a conclusion. If it was what you meant, you are certainly entitled to your opinion on the matter, and I too will be disappointed.
Given some of the past threads on controversial and polarizing issues, I am extremely impressed to see that this thread did not degenerate in to serious flaming! No serious personal attacts, just mostly a discussion of opinions.
A real nice touch of irony Wipala!