Gonna Retire, Where To Move?

Bubba Joel · May 2002

Well I have finally made a decision to retire, after the first of the year....My wife and I would like to move, either to the north-Texas or east-Texas area...

Does anyone here recommend a place? My wife has decided to teach school a few more years, so she would like a good school system..I know, theres no good school system, but you all know what I mean..

We are trying to get closer to our kid, who lives in the Dallas area...But we don't want the traffic...So we thought about a hour or so out would be good..

Your help is appreciated, and thank you for your response...

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YankeeClipper · May 2002

Why Texas? Why not Montana. We need good teachers: You need wide open spaces and places to shoot and hunt.

Helping keep America free: One gun at a time.

Bubba Joel · May 2002

YankeeClipper, Thanks....Been there and loved the State, it's beautiful and some of the most friendly people that I have ever met...But I couldn't get my wife to move that far away from her baby..And your right, I need a place to turn my AK-47 loose...LOL

Also,I don't like cold weather, and I heard you all have some brrrr cold stuff..

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old single shots · May 2002

Maine is nice,as long as you don,t mind snow in the middle of May.We had some last night.If it doesn,t warm up soon,I may also move to Texas.

mudge · May 2002

How about Virginia or West Virginia? That's kinda' "East Texas" ain't it? We live in WV and Mrs. Mudge teaches in Loudoun County, VA. (About a 50 min. drive) If Mrs. Bubba has 18-20 years teaching, she'd be making about 63-65K there and they're begging for teachers. That'd keep ya' in firearms for a while.

Mudge the helpful

I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!

Bubba Joel · May 2002

Maine.....BRRRR....Come on down to Texas, at least we're warm...haha..Worked with a guy from Maine, he said it was nice up there....

WV...She only has 10 years teaching....Besides, thats to far and snaky...Would like to visit there someday...Heard that it is beautiful country..

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muley · May 2002

There is only one place to live, KALIFORNIA. Every day you have the opportunity to use your guns, if only to return fire. Your pets would love it, if they aren't afraid of the sound of sirens and gunfire. Also, there are many teaching jobs open in the state. Is your wife tri-lingual? Of course, there is that little problem of bringing firearms into the state and then retaining them.....hmmm, maybe we should think about this.

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beachmaster73 · May 2002

I wanted to move to Idaho...but I think TLynne would have attmpted to hunt me down and kill me. I'd like a retirement place in Idaho or Montana myself.....you can make your own 1000 yard range just about anywhere!! I'd have to leave my wife though she hates the great outdoors....Gosh I'm sure gonna miss her. Beach

Bubba Joel · May 2002

Hey Beach...Just talked to TLynn, she said if your gonna move up there, give her time to get your picture off her printed up targets..LOL

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whiteclouder · May 2002

Montana is great. So is Utah, Wyoming, Nevada, Washington and Oregon. I can attest to the beauty and tranquility of each. Plenty of open range, everybody loves guns and gunowners. West of the Cascades does not count, that's Northern California, all the way to the Canadian border.

Clouder..

askani88 · May 2002

San Angelo- Mejor Que Nada, Hildago's, Charcoal House,Zenter's,Zentner's Daughter to eat at.O.C Fisher, Nasworthy,and Twin Buttes to fish at.Good schools great shopping just make your child move.
P.S WHITETAILS!!

Bubba Joel · May 2002

It's sure tempting guys, but better keep to the Eastern side of the state...

Our Daughter is a pilot(flight instructor)...I think she could make a fast trip, where-ever we are...

OH Muley...Kalifornia...whooaaa...LOL....I have more guns than what Kalifornia would allow....I think I'll keep them..

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IAMACLONE_2 · May 2002

BEING RASIED IN DALLAS TX, & LIVED IN NEWPORT BEACH CALIF. - BEST PLACE IS OKLAHOMA CITY OK. IN THE STICKS WITH THE HICKS. CLOSE TO DALLAS 160 MILES TAKES 2 1/5 HR DRIVE, FLY SOUTHWEST FOR $29.00 1 WAY FROM OKC TO DALLAS. LOCAL SHERIFFS SIGN OFF ON NFA GOODIES, STATE HAS CCW. STATE HAS PUBLIC HUNTING LANDS!!. LAND IS REAL CHEAP!!.
HOUSING IS CHEAP, GASOLINE IS CHEAP, NO REAL MAJOR CRIME PROBLEMS IF YOU LIVE IN A NICE AREA ( HOUSING OVER 60K RANGE). HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM WITH METH (SPPED) FREEKS AS THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. STATE IS DYING FOR TEACHERS!, ALTHOUGH THE TEACHERS PAY IS RANKED AROUND 37TH NATIONWIDE. BEST OF ALL, PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY & HARDLY ANY TRAFFIC.
OKC HAS THE MOST POPULATION COMBINED 3 COUNTY AREA AROUND 1 MILLION PEOPLE, BUT IS SPREAD OUT OVER A 60 MILE RADIS.
HECK DRIVE THRU. STOP LOOK AROUND, DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE NOW FOR 20 YRS & I AIN'T MOVING....

Pelican · May 2002

I thought about moving to Montana but couldn't get the Corps of Engineers to did me a canal so I could get DOLORES up there.

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whiteclouder · May 2002

Knock a chip off her bow and clone 'er. You'd love FlatHead.

Clouder..

muley · May 2002

Bubba Joel....Seriously now. Have you ever considered the possibility of not moving and just becoming a Winter Visitor or Snowbird as they call them? Thousands of people buy a motor home or fifth wheel when they retire and spend the winters down in southern Arizona or other warm places. I'm sure this is not news to you, but it might be something you would like to try for a few years. That way you could go back home at your leisure. While living in Yuma, I had a lot of Snowbird friends that brought their guns and we shot Bullseye, Silhouette, Trap and Skeet. Crossing state lines with your arsenal didn't seem to be such a big deal in those days. Anyway, it's just something to think about.
muley

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Lowrider · May 2002

Move to western Washington. Why, sometimes in August, it goes two or three days in a row without raining. Just yesterday, 48 degrees and raining. Ahhhhhhhh May.

Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.

robsguns · May 2002

I have friends that live in one possible area you may be interested in. Its south east of Dallas @ 1 hour, like you're looking for, depending on which town you go to. Check out these towns. Kaufman, Kemp, Mabank, Athens, Canton, Tyler. Its a nice rural area. I dont know about the school systems, you'd have to research it. Canton and Tyler and Athens are the bigger towns. Corsicana is a decent little town too, but again, small, dont know about the school. These are old towns. Canton has the biggest flea market called 'First Monday', once a month. Its rumored to be the biggest in the U.S. and I have reason to believe it is. I'd say its at least 100 acres, the whole town is built on this event. You can buy anything, and I mean anything during this event, its cool, really cool. The area on the map you'll find these towns is between Interstate 45 and Interstate 20, directly south east of Dallas. Wish I could help you more, good luck.

SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC

Bushy AR · May 2002

Dothan AL,southeast corner of state...good healthcare,golf courses(if you care),low property taxes,good schools and shopping,great weather,I could go on and on...90 miles from Gulf coast,fishing,hunting all around...Carry permits on demand,no rediculous restrictions on magazine capacity...Army base with good hospital and PX within 25 miles..check the web sites for Ft. Rucker and Dothan...who knows? You might like it!!

Only the strong survive...well maybe also some weak ones with lots of ammo!

imadork · May 2002

Check out Oregon; if you like cities, you can try out Portland, Salem, Eugene, etc., if you like the country, try Klamath Falls, Salem, and others. I've been to these places and they're all pretty cool. Outdoorsman? No problem. Assault weapons? No problem. You get the idea. Washington state is another cool place. Rustic in some areas, urban in others.

California is my favorite place to live, despite the laws being restrictive. You could just bring your stuff into the state illegally. No one bothers retired people, least of all the police, just don't use your AW's in self-defense and be careful when transporting them. If you really would consider making the leap into the PRC, the SF bay area and Monterey areas are perfect. If you're more into rural places, Sonoma and Napa counties are great places to have a retirement home.

barto · May 2002

whiteclouder-
i resent your blanket statement about west of the cascades being part of california.
going north in california the state ends with the redwoods.(the only nice thing about california, as far as im concerned.)
i know you was jist funnin, tho.
barto

the hard stuff we do right away - the impossible takes a little longer

Iconoclast · May 2002

Bushy, I spent a summer in Dothan and environs; no offense, but the only way I'd live there would be if the alternative were NY, MA, KA, etc. You left out how it cools down to 100+ & 99.9% humidity at 0300 in the summer months. I have vivid memories of - and occasional nightmares from - trying to sleep in a bathtube with the drain & cold water tap in equilibrium (no AC). I've reached the point where snow is more than merely an irritation, but I can take the cold in NH a lot easier than the heat in AL. Like to have killed me, man. Thinking seriously of Alaskan panhandle in the near future. Few people and relatively moderate temps. And I can feed the dead tourists to the bears.

SXSMAN · May 2002

No advice,just not too far from a major airport so I can fly out and we can go shooting.SxS

Good luck on your move and retirement.

Have guns,will travel

michael minarik · May 2002

It is not long and the wife and I will retire...BUT NOT IN NEBRASKA. Born and raised here. Only gone from 1966-1969(Army). Nebraska is in the top 10 for taxes, on GAS, Auto's and home's. Family or not we're are outta here. The GOOD LIFE AIN'T SO GOOD when all you make is all they take! Any business or person moving here, you're fools or you've been exiled from your own state if you wanna retire here!

idsman75 · May 2002

Lowrider--I was stationed at Ft. Lewis from 1997 - 1999. I never rememberd much rain during the month of August. Fortunately I was deployed to Central America (mostly during the dry season) when it rained every day for 90 days straight (Dec-Feb). The rain always seemed to kick off around late September and then start to die off in May. The summers were absolutely gorgeous. I didn't mind the rain even when I was in the field. I was willing to put up with it because the summers made it all worthwhile. I wouldn't want to live in WA when I retire though. They don't have a state income tax but they seem to abuse the hell out of property owners. Sales tax was through the roof and annual renewal of the vehicle license costed a fortune.

SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY

will270win · May 2002

How about Denton, Argyle, Flower Mound, or Justin. They are North of Dallas and Fort Worth and are relatively quiet, except when that pesky race comes to town. I visited there every so often and am sure that's God's country. I hear the cost of living ain't to bad. I can maybe hook you up with some folks in the area.

~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~

Lowrider · May 2002

Property taxes are pretty high in western WA because real estate values are so high. I'm 60 miles north of Seattle and home prices are high even up here in the sticks.

Sales tax here in my county is 7.8%. No sales tax on groceries.

Vehicle license renewal used to be ungodly. Based on the value of the car, you could've ended up paying several thousand bucks per year if you owned a Mercedes or other high-end rig. We took care of that little problem 3 years ago with a citizens initiative which passed by 80% of the vote. Car tags are 30 bucks per year now no matter what you drive.

I was exaggerating some about the weather. July, August and September are pretty nice around here although it rarely gets into the eighty degree range. The winters have been extremely wet the past few years. Rains from October through May, even nasty in June. I was born and raised here and the weather never bothered me any until I lived in Oklahoma for three years. I got used to the sun and hot weather and now I can't stand the Washington climate anymore.

Life's too short to spend it wet.

Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.

Edited by - Lowrider on 05/15/2002 00:07:05

Otoman · May 2002

My favorite part of Texas is over on the East side in that National forrest south of Longview Toledo Bend and Sam Rayburn reserviors used to be great for fishing, but not good lakes to be on when the wind was blowing, that is not far from Dallas and pretty country. Stay away from Kilgore I have heard that it has the largest per capita of murders than New York City although it is a small Texas Town..Some of those hill people in East Texas get kind of roudy from time to time. OTO

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DarkStar11 · May 2002

Will270, you haven't been to Flower Mound in a while, have you??? Property costs (and taxes) are very high and it is one of the more "favored" places to live in the Metroplex. My Honda looks very out of place amongst all the Lexus and Mercedes SUV's. And getting out of Flower Mound between 7AM-8:30 AM really sucks! It is nice, and the schools are good, but it has been absorbed into the Metroplex. It has replaced Las Colinas as "THE place to live" on the west side of Dallas.

I would really reccomend the general area robsguns mentioned. I love that section of East Texas. Athens, Canton, Eustace, Edom, Ben Wheeler, Gun Barrel City, Chandler, Brownsboro, Palestine, Hawkins . . . there's tons of country between these little towns. Many folks actually commute from these areas into Dallas to work (that's a pretty good commute)! Lots of good hunting and fishing out there. My opinion, Tyler has one very nice section, the rest is turning into small-town slums.

I also really like the area around Stephenville/Chalk Mountain/Glen Rose (near Dinosaur Valley State Park, SW of Fort Worth).

I can't imagine any of these areas pay teachers very well, but you are in the country.

If you're up for life "in the city", Fort Worth and its outlying areas (N, W, & S -- away from Dallas) are very nice and mellow. Ft. Worth is actually very nice for a city. The differences between it and Dallas are like night and day. Fort Worth is very family-oriented, with a ton of cultural events and family attractions. The general population seems more down to earth, too. Dallas is much more nightlife and plastic. There is culture in Dallas, it just isn't as noticeable as it is in Fort Worth. Traffic in Fort Worth is very mellow compared to Dallas.

Oh, if you live near the Metroplex, you'll have plenty of gunshows to go to every month (almost every weekend) . Hunting sucks in Texas unless you can purchase enough ground, know someone with ground, or you can afford a hunting lease (about $1250/year). I find that it is cheaper for me to hunt out-of-state than in-state.

Maybe Nunn will jump in here -- Wolfe City and McKinney are close by.

DarkStar11
"...But Mona Lisa musta had the highway bluesYou can tell by the way she smiles..."

Bubba Joel · May 2002

Thanks everyone...We have looked around Tyler and Canton, but the wife wasn't empressed...Like some said, maybe Longview, Gun Barrel City, but no futher than Longview...We are gonna look at a place in Pottsboro(sp), it's in the Sherman area, while we are on vacation, starting the 27th of this month. We are gonna take about 3 weeks to look around the country side..I am from Oklahoma, across the river from East Texas, but want to stay in Texas......

Being retired, I'll try to find the least expensive area to live in..No industry, no interstate...We are use to small town or country living, so city life would be to much to handle...I'm use to going to the gun range every week or so..Also riding my 3-wheel cycle..

Hey SXSMAN, you just say the word and I'll try to make it to the shoot..Come see us pal...

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austin247 · May 2002

Bubba, you sure you want to move to Texas what with cyanide filled 18-wheelers roaming around?

I grew up in Nunn's area, between Greenville and Wolfe City, about an hour out of Dallas. We lived in the country on 40 acres, so I always had a place to shoot, ride, or make as much noise as I could. Our nearest neighbor was about half a mile a way, and now they can always tell when I'm home to visit.

They're right about Texas hunting. There's no such thing as state-owned land here, so to hunt in state you have to get a lease, and that ain't cheap.

He Dog · May 2002

Bubba Joel, you might want to talk with Nunn about Wolf City. Tyler would be a decent choice as well. Personally, I try never to get East of Fort Davis, which is a great place, but not near "East" enough for you purposes. I am envious!

Gonna Retire, Where To Move?

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