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Harrison Ford crashed in his plane??

asopasop Member Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
Anyone have any news regarding this news bit?
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  • roswellnativeroswellnative Member Posts: 10,195 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Out in California. Few cuts on his head.

    At least this is what ms ros just told me

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  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    http://www.tmz.com/2015/03/05/harrison-ford-plane-crash-landing-golf-course-santa-monica/

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/harrison-ford-injured-plane-crash-n318301

    http://variety.com/2015/biz/news/harrison-ford-plane-crash-1201447290/

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/harrison-ford-plane-crashes-los-angeles-golf-article-1.2139257

    The 72-year-old actor was reportedly flying over the Penmar Golf Course near the Santa Monica airport Thursday when his yellow, vintage aircraft crash landed into the green.

    The Los Angeles Fire Department confirmed that a single male occupant was critically injured in a crash at the Venice course. He was taken to a local hospital for treatment, they said.

    TMZ reported that Ford suffered multiple gashes to his head and was bleeding.

    Actor Harrison Ford was reportedly flying over a Venice golf course Thursday when his yellow, vintage aircraft plummeted into the green.

    Actor Harrison Ford was reportedly flying over a Venice golf course Thursday when his yellow, vintage aircraft plummeted into the green.

    Twitter user Alex Miller said his mom was playing on the hole near the crash scene and she came to Ford's aid.

    "He seems OK," Miller Tweeted.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    from the article...

    "72-year-old Ford is a longtime aviator -- piloting planes and helicopters -- and has crashed multiple times in the past. "

    At some point son you just need to stop doing that....
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    oopsie...gonna need a little duct tape to fix that!
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I first heard it, I was afraid it was the Millennium Falcon! [:0]

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  • asopasop Member Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Dad always told me to stay away from gambling, fast women, booze and small planes[;)] I went to high school with him. Hope he's OK.
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    He should just stick with the millennium Falcon.
  • scrumpyjackscrumpyjack Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by asop
    My Dad always told me to stay away from gambling, fast women, booze and small planes[;)] I went to high school with him. Hope he's OK.


    You went to high school with your dad?
  • SGSG Member Posts: 7,548
    edited November -1
    What? You never seen Back to the Future?[:D]quote:Originally posted by scrumpyjack
    quote:Originally posted by asop
    My Dad always told me to stay away from gambling, fast women, booze and small planes[;)] I went to high school with him. Hope he's OK.


    You went to high school with your dad?
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    An old Ryan PT22. Wow.
  • TrinityScrimshawTrinityScrimshaw Member Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bob Falfa goes down again...[B)]

    The first time I saw him crash was in that mean 55 Chevy...[^]

    Trinity +++
  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    An old Ryan PT22. Wow.


    Every time I see a PT-22 I'm reminded of John Malone, a family friend who was killed in one.
  • texaswildmantexaswildman Member Posts: 2,215 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Weight must have been a little off without Chewy in the front seat....
  • LaidbackDanLaidbackDan Member Posts: 13,142 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Must have been a snake in there somewheres
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    During my flight training my CFI said don't try to return to the airport if you have an engine failure on takeoff, but to look for an alternate site, as you will likely not make it.

    I have flown out of Santa Monica a few times. That golf course is a slight dog leg to the left and is part of the departure route. From the pics it looks like he hit pretty hard digging the fixed landing gear into the grass.

    I was a passenger in a plane crash of a friends plane last year and don't want to do it again. It was pilot error on his part.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like a #3 Titleist under the right wing. Would that be considered an unplayable lie?
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  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Looks like an 12-over par on the Kessel Run.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    Did he replace his divot?
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Laredo Lefty
    During my flight training my CFI said don't try to return to the airport if you have an engine failure on takeoff, but to look for an alternate site, as you will likely not make it.

    I have flown out of Santa Monica a few times. That golf course is a slight dog leg to the left and is part of the departure route. From the pics it looks like he hit pretty hard digging the fixed landing gear into the grass.

    I was a passenger in a plane crash of a friends plane last year and don't want to do it again. It was pilot error on his part.



    A HS friend of mine (pilot) was killed late last year, along with three other people on the ground in a training building. He lost an engine on takeoff and tried to make it back to the airstrip but crashed into the flight training building instead. He was incinerated, and of course no one knows if he was dead on impact or not.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Wichita_King_Air_crash
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  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    remember this wichita crash well....what are the chances of you training pilots in simulators and get killed in a plane crash in that building....
  • gearheaddadgearheaddad Member Posts: 15,091 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my friends is a commercial pilot. He told me the average person would never get in a passenger jet if the FAA combined the private plane crash stats with commercial jet stats!![;)]
  • HandLoadHandLoad Member Posts: 15,998
    edited November -1
    Harrison did a pretty good job putting it down...marks in turf show wings near level. High sink rate (evidence gear torn off) shows he wanted it down before line of trees.

    The P-22 was one of, if not the first trainers that overbuilt the cockpit area to protect pilot in crashes.

    Right side up, recognizable, wings still attached...B+!!

    Plane stalls at 62 Mph, full *.

    Well done, Harrison!
  • kissgoodnightkissgoodnight Member Posts: 4,063 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Piss on Harrison Ford! He said Charlton Heston deserved to have Alzheimer's disease because he was president of NRA. He made this statement with it was announced that Charlton Heston had come down with Alzheimer's disease. Heston later died from complications due to Alzheimer's disease.
  • likemhotlikemhot Member Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any landing you walk away from is a successful landing [^]
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Image of Ford being removed from the crash site

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  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ford has a broken pelvis and ankle, along with a collection of cuts.
  • rongrong Member Posts: 8,459
    edited November -1
    quote:
    Originally posted by asop

    My Dad always told me to stay away from gambling, fast women, booze and small planes I went to high school with him. Hope he's OK.




    You went to high school with your dad?






    West Virginia!!!!
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Laredo Lefty
    During my flight training my CFI said don't try to return to the airport if you have an engine failure on takeoff, but to look for an alternate site, as you will likely not make it.

    I have flown out of Santa Monica a few times. That golf course is a slight dog leg to the left and is part of the departure route. From the pics it looks like he hit pretty hard digging the fixed landing gear into the grass.

    I was a passenger in a plane crash of a friends plane last year and don't want to do it again. It was pilot error on his part.




    +1

    My own instructor used to drill me all the time with the rule of picking the best spot you can that is within 30 degrees of the nose on either side.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Mix of info in the news reports about it. Some say he was high enough to make a turn and try for the airport but didn't make it. Others say he went right for the golf course. Lots of praise coming from other pilots saying he showed great skill and presence of mind to avoid homes and not get dead himself.

    It's the pelvic fracture that is the most ominous. That tends to be a trigger to accelerated degradation in an elderly person. Home he does alright.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,503 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We often here about a pilot being a "hero" because he maneuvered to miss buildings and save lives. That's nice, but bogus. One maneuvers to open spaces because hitting a building is suicide. The pilot's first goal is to save his own life, and then minimize damage to the plane.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,503 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    btw, I don't give a whistling about Harrison Ford or any other Hollyweird celebrity. But I grieve that world has lost one of the last of those sweet Ryan airplanes.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FYI he has used his personal helicopter numerous times in search and rescue operations for the vacation area he has a place in.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    I also don't buy the hero angle often played up in news stories about pilots that kept their planes from hitting homes. Unless someone can show that in a specific event a pilot saved lives on the ground but sealed his own fate by flying onward to his death instead of using his parachute, there's no heroics there.

    The claims about Ford were that he did a good job under the circumstances. That much seems fair.

    As he's exceedingly rich, let's hope he pays to rebuild that plane. Even if it takes having new parts fabricated.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It looks like he broke the oft repeated rule: "Never try a 180 if you lose power on takeoff".
    He's lucky he survived right side up but came down real hard trying to stretch a glide back to the airport.
    Check the layout of runway, golf course, and the PT22 orientation.
    The FAA isn't going to like that one.
  • shootuadealshootuadeal Member Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gearheaddad
    One of my friends is a commercial pilot. He told me the average person would never get in a passenger jet if the FAA combined the private plane crash stats with commercial jet stats!![;)]


    I just got done reading a book called "The Killing Zone". I swear that book is talking about me. The book is about the high death rate of private pilots with less than 400hrs time as pilot in command.

    The author touched on the old saying about "it is more dangerous to drive to the airport than fly", he broke It down into accidents per 100,000 miles driven or flown. Well, Commercial jets safety far surpasses vehicles driven in safety, General aviation(small planes basically) is 17 times more dangerous than driving.

    That is why I continually study all things aviation, I own a Cessna 172 and while it is a pretty nice plane it IS fairly unprotected should you have to put it down in the rough.
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Judgement is an understated, critical element in safe flying.
    Ford advertised the Husky, a high powered Cub like plane he landed on tiny green mountain top patches and gravel river beds with.
    Certainly he could fly and land on the edge of safe operation.
    However, in a crisis when panic overcomes judgement and training
    he lost it in spite of the luxury of a good option to make a better landing while he still had flying speed.
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guess that dang Hyperdrive stalled again. Where's that damn Wookie when you need him?
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    Easy to be a critic in hindsight. The Ryan PT-22 isn't the easiest or most forgiving of the PT's. Stall comes at 60 mph, the 22 can become violent when stalled, there's lots of drag, and the glide slope with engine out is abysmal. And to top it all off the brakes are pretty much a joke.

    Ford was faced with a problem and limited options. He made an irrevocable decision and followed it through. Stall was just barely before he touched the turf. Wings were level indicating control to inches above the touchdown. The rest is history. A hard touchdown with associated damage.

    In the final analysis Ford survived. All in all a pretty good landing considering the circumstances. Could he have done better? Maybe and maybe not. He lived and nobody other than he was injured. Good job Mr. Ford!
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Every report I read that had some detail said he was in the air 20 minutes, several thousand feet up when the engine failed. That's not a case of trying to return while still climbing out from the takeoff.

    I keep hearing pilots who saw it happen saying he did a good job.

    Just not seeing a reason to beat up on the man over this thing.
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