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New Handgun Shooting Technique

NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
I am a Firearms Instructor and I am always recieving stuff related in the Mail.Yesterday I recieved a guide to a different way of shooting Handguns.As you point the firearm keep your index finger laying along the slide pointing towards the target.When you fire the weapon use the pad of your middle finger to fire the gun.According to the info I got this makes a much better point of aim because we point with our index finger.It also states that when you use your middle finger to fire all of the tendons and ligaments in your arm work together,and leaves less room for jerking or pulling to the right when you pull the trigger/vice versa if your left handed.The New York PD.has adopted this form of shooting and are training all of their Officers to shoot that way.I tried it yesterday afternoon and it wasnt as awkward as I thought.I dont recommend it yet but you might give it a try.I done pretty good yesterday being that was my first time.I will be studying this technique and I will post the results.

Best!!

Rugster


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  • doomsknight62doomsknight62 Member Posts: 239 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I actually tried that once, and it didn't work too well for me. Right at the end of the trigger pull I would jerk and it would throw my aim WAY off. It could probably be toned down with a little more practice, but I still like the Weaver stance. I finally found a method of holding my USP that helps me stay accurate.
    Anyway, back in the old days, there used to be a way of holding a gun using your middle finger to pull the trigger. Your pointer finger would then rest over the top of the barrel ( you could never do this with a semi-auto, though, or your finger would be severely damaged ). Anyway, this was called an " Assassin's Grip, " and supposedly it would prevent your gun from being wrested from your grasp. If you were a lone assassin trying to take out a well-guarded target, this would be a good thing, I guess. However, if you are shooting for self-defense, I still recommend two hands!

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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have heard of this method used in "cowboy shooting". I have never used it, but if point shooting is a problem for someone, it might be a help.

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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One thing I can say it does is it makes a 5.5 pound Glock 21 trigger feel like a 2 pound trigger.

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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you try this method with a Revolver your Index finger is going to be badly Burned.

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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would imagine so,I should have been more clear in my original post.The news letter was refering to semi-autos.I would not try this with a revolver and you should place your finger on the frame,not the slide of a semi auto.

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  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the "cowboy shooting" you place the displaced trigger finger under the cylinder along the frame. Haven't heard of anyone complaining of injury.

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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, here's one. Several models of the Baby Hammerless have a groove just under the cylinder pin that the index finger nests in just nicely. It's apparently made for that purpose. After firing a few shots that way, I got a good piece of lead in the second joint of the first finger. I wouldnt fire any of my revolvers with any part of my anatomy forward of the cylinder gap.
    Thinking further on this, I recall being dusted pretty strongly in the face firing SAAs from the hip.
  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000
    edited November -1
    I'm too old to change now!

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  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe have been better than originally thought,the Nations Largest PD is useing the technique.And Im of pretty Big Stature (6"5-270)and no its not from eating doughnuts HA!!HA!!!.And my hands are big,and I didnt have any problem with the semi-autos Ive tinkered with and I have big hands.I dont endorse it not yet any way.I dont know if I could break my habbit of the Weaver Stance,under stress.But it did make the trigger pull better on my Glock 21 .45.I do however see your point,but you would be able to do it and keep off the slide.But Look at the Browning Hi Power Ive been bit by the hammer more than once,thats the only reason I dont have one.But the more I think of it it could become a promblem for the NYPD getting bit by the slide.And as I stated its hard to break lifelong habbits of shooting with the Index finger.You brought up a new thought?

    Best!!!

    Rugster


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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sport shooting may be one thing but for serious business I'd rather have four fingers gripping the gun than three.
  • thesoundguy1thesoundguy1 Member Posts: 680
    edited November -1
    Actually, I hold with both hands, and use the index finger on my left hand in the same manner mentioned above.I'm right handed,but left-eye
    dominant, I guess that's why this works for me.

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  • mrmike08075mrmike08075 Member Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    this is a tried and true target shooting technique, but most often seen/discussed by rifle shooters. they were still teaching this method at the olympic training center in colorado springs the last time i was there. many old school target shooters would attach a trigger shoe(a wide ribbed or stippled trigger overlay) to help facilitate this method. i have a trigger shoe on my rimfire/matck target .22 rifle, and my father has one on his comped ithica 1911 .45 acp semiautomatic pistol. i have seen some of the newer match grade rifles from walther or anshutz go in the opposite direction by narrowing the trigger in an extreme fashion and lightening the trigger pull to absurd levels. if you ever watch someone fire a gun in a hamfisted style inserting there whole finger through the trigger gaurd you are sure to see there groups reflect it with fliers and pulled out elongated groups. i believe in this method, and use it myself. just throwing in my 2 cents.

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  • Guns & GlassGuns & Glass Member Posts: 864 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Makes some sense. Haven't tried it, yet.

    Under firing your index finger will tend to ride up the frame due to recoil.
    That will put it close if not sometimes actually touching the slide.

    Thinking that the smaller the frame, the larger the hand, and/or the longer the finger, there could be some finger 'rubbing' or cutting.

    Anyone actually experience this?

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