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question for LEOs

223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
About 6 months ago I got a ticket from a State Trooper for a seat belt violation .
Paid the ticket with a Western Union money order .
Fasr forward to today when I was stopped for a liscense and insurance check .
Found out that my liscense has been suspended for a FTA (failure to appear) .
Apparently the check got lost in the mail .
I have the M/O receipt and checked to see if it had been cashed .
It has not .
The Deputy told me that I am not the first one to have something lost in the mail .
My question is how easy (or hard )is this to straighten out ?
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok, this is hypothetical and I think there was a story on it a few weeks back that may have been posted on here(I can't find it now though)

    A guy meets a girl and gives her a ride on his bike. While they're riding down the highway, she falls off the bike(DUE TO NO FAULT OF THE DRIVER OF THE BIKE), gets hit by a car and dies. The motorcycle rider turns around and goes back to her, sees that she is dead, and takes off on his bike.

    How would this be illegal? He didnt make her fall off the bike and he didn't really know her.

    Don't read into the question and imply that he did something. I UNDERSTAND that the police would want him for questioning or what not, but could he be charged AND convicted of anything.

    The consensus here is, he could be charged with leaving the scene of an accident. I'm not sure I agree with that though. She just fell off without him doing anything wrong.

    Would it be the same if someone jumped/fell out of your AUTOMOBILE?
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When you pull over a vehicle for speeding and discover they have a radar detector, does that influence you in any way?

    At first blush it would seem to, but hey, you just caught them speeding, right?
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This evening I was involved in a minor car accident. I was carrying a handgun, and consistent with SC concealed weapon permit law, I notified the state trooper that I was carrying a concealed weapon (a Kel-Tek P32). He took the gun from me but required my assistance in unloading it.

    I got the impression that he was overreacting to the fact that I had a gun, so I commented that it's not the people with permits that he should be worried about. He replied that guns made him nervous.

    He returned the gun to me after he processed the paperwork from the accident. I don't know what SC standard procedure is, but it seemed to me that he just didn't like the idea that citizens could be armed.

    What are other people's experiences with being stopped while carrying concealed? For law enforcement officers, does your agency have a specific policy for dealing with this, or do you have some discretion in the matter? How would you have handled this situation (assuming the person you pulled over is a stranger)?
    "Strength is the outcome of need; security sets a premium on feebleness." -- H.G. Wells (The Time Machine)
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was driving home last night, merging onto a highway, and in front of me are two cars. As the one car tries to pass the other (it's a two lane ramp) the getting-passed car swerves over and cuts the car off. The car then tries to pass again and the same thing happens. The car finally tries to pass again and makes it. I figure the guy swerving is drunk or whatever and I don't want to be near him when he wrecks, so I try to pass him (he's doing 25 on a ramp that normally goes 45). As I pass him he swerves and cuts ME off.I'm quite upset. This guy is a mainiac. I follow him for a few miles and at a stop light I walk up to his window and tell him he's acting like an idiot and is going to kill somebody. He's all nervous and apologetic, but his passenger--as I walk away--calls me a few choice words. I say something back and keep heading back to my car and the passenger hops out and starts challenging me to duke it out.Now, I was pissed but at the same time I know if we start throwing punches in the middle of the road the cops are going to show up and I'm going to get arrested. I've got a concealed carry permit application in the pipeline, and I imagine such an arrest would really foul that up. Am I correct in this? What is the police-approved method for dealing with this kind of a situation?
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Years ago when I was on the job, I carried a .38 special revolver, no bullet proof vests, and wood night stick. No SWAT team , just a bunch of guys called the TAC squad with Ithaca riot guns. When did the SWAT teams turn into an Army infantry squad. This group look like they are returning from patrol in Afghanistan. Call me na?ve, but is all this gear and uniforms necessary?

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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok, well I'm looking at maybe starting a career in the law enforcement community. This means I'll have to go through BLET, which the local community college offers. My question is, since one has to be 21 years of age to be a LEO, do I need to wait till I'm 21 to take the classes? If I start next school year and it takes me 2 years to go through the classes, I'll be 21 a month after I finish the classes. Planning on asking somebody at the school tomorrow, but wanted to see what y'all say. Thanks, Colton.
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    or anyone else that may know.... why is the bay that the police cars pulls into called a "sally port"?
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    First let me preface that I am sure the rules vary from department to department so probably not a hard set answer.

    Background: Off duty Cincinnati Police Office used taser on 11 year old shoplifting from grocery store.

    https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/police-officer-used-taser-on-11-year-old-girl-accused-of-stealing-from-kroger

    According to the stories, she was arrested and charged with theft and obstructing official business.

    The second charge is myl question. What Obstruction of Official Business would she be guilty of?

    The LEO was off duty and working a side job if I read the stories correctly. Do LEOs get to perform part time security duties in city/county uniform in many places which would then warrant the obstruction charge?

    She was wrong for stealing, just not sure it rose to the level of taser deployment.
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  • scott5792scott5792 Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Seems to me you were lucky to not be the one shot.You walked up to the car ?instead of calling it in?and you had what in your hands? Nothing.sounds like you're lucky. Call a police officer for the idiot driver.I'm in N western Va. and I know what would happen if you walked up on them at alight at night. The cops would be there alright. picking you up off the ground while you try and explain that you were not a car jacker.Scott
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What Scott said.
    PC=BS
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    You should've never approached his car - you never know what someone is carrying/thinking or what they will do. In other words, you never should have been in that situation.I would've done everything in my power to keep my vehicle as far away from his as possible - even if it means waiting on the shoulder for two minutes to let him get on down the road to kill someone else.You could've called him in as a reckless/careless driver and gave his tag # and vehicle description along with the number of passengers, but its a toss up as to whether or not someone will respond.
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know you guys are right, and I was thinking that as well. Didn't have a cell phone on me, though, and I was just damn upset at what he did. Sort of funny, though, to see the look on the guys face when he turned and saw me in his window. All those crazy drivers out there seem to forget that you're going to come to a stoplight sooner or later.
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  • scott5792scott5792 Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    223. Think of the exact opposite look on my face if it had been me. Might have gotten yourself run down in the reverse front end move.I understand the reason and the actions. Just not what I'd call a good move.Scott
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  • Ms. BeastMs. Beast Member Posts: 496 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had a car cut me off and ended up on the shoulder of the road, nobody was hurt but I was very mad. I called in with the plate number and description of the car. I was told to just be careful next time! I didn't do anything! I told them next time maybe someone would get hurt then they could do something.
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I always find those who get out of their cars to straighten things out with another driver incredibly idiotic.If I was approached, I would definately have my gun ready, or I would run the approacher over.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sal....lighten up a bit. Poor judgement, yes.An idiot? A little harsh.Mudge the peacemaker
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • scott5792scott5792 Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree mudge. We've all had the poor judgment out there Scott
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  • kaboomkaboom Member Posts: 75 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm way too old to try something like that now, but I was dumb and hot tempered enough to do it a couple of times when I was a lot younger. I was lucky to get away with it even then, but most folks were not as edgy back then. Took me a long time to learn, but it's usually better to let fools go on in their stupidity than to take it on yourself to try and make good citizens out of them. I was even dumb enough once to try to break up a fight between a man and his wife. That crazy gal whose husband had been punching her in the face raised knots all over my head with a broom handle while I was rasslin her old man all over the floor. Go figure. When you get my age you'll find you just have to swallow hard and take some things you would have fought a buzzsaw over when you were young and full of p### and vinegar. Life's too short at the best.
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kaboom- Simular incident happend to me. Husband was beating his wife up on the front lawn, I tried to calm him down without getting physical. He took a swing at me, I hit him back, and then his wife jumped on me. I figure if a girl wants to stay with an abuser, she gets what she deserves. Who am I to stand in the way of her stupidity.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • kaboomkaboom Member Posts: 75 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    *******Who am I to stand in the way of her stupidity. *********You got that right Salzo. I never liked to see a man whuppin up on a woman, but some of them seem to like that kind of thing. Or maybe that woman thought so much of her old man she couldn't stand seeing you puttin some hurt on him. Who can figger out them thar womenfolks anyway? The incident I mentioned was the last time I tried to rescue a damsel in that kind of distress, and that was a looong time ago.
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  • kaboomkaboom Member Posts: 75 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    *******Who am I to stand in the way of her stupidity. *********You got that right Salzo. I never liked to see a man whuppin up on a woman, but some of them seem to like that kind of thing. Or maybe that woman thought so much of her old man she couldn't stand seeing you puttin some hurt on him. Who can figger out them thar womenfolks anyway? The incident I mentioned was the last time I tried to rescue a damsel in that kind of distress, and that was a looong time ago.
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree that perhaps my actions were perhaps not the wisest, and that perhaps I just should have hung back and done nothing. At the same time, if that guy was driving like that then he's probably driving like that at other times. He's going to be endangering other people. How can you let that slide? Maybe the next time he starts to get all crazy he'll think that perhaps this person is not going to take it. Also keep this in mind: When I went up to his window I had nothing in my hands and I never threatened him. I told him he was driving like an idiot and that he was could have killed somebody. For all those bad * out there who say you'd run me over or pull a gun on me, bear in mind that at the end of the day you'd be going to jail and not me. In no way did my actions indicate anything more than that bonehead driver apologizing for his bad behavior.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well...I pulled my "hero" act out yesterday evening. Pulled into a parking spot at the mall. Was just getting out of the car when I hear a horn blowing right behind me. Nothing drastic. Just a little "beep, beep" type noise. Turned to look and here was a guy trying to back into a parking spot. Well...the little car behind him didn't know he was about to back up and was too close behind him. The "parking" guy started backing without looking. The lady in the ittle car behind him was just alerting him to the fact that she was there. Suddenly, the guy in the first car jumps out and starts putting all sorts of "MF's" and "effen *" on the lady in the second car. He gets back in his car and finishes parking. The lady in the second car pulls into a spot on the other side of the aisle and just sits in her car. This punk-* kid gets out of his car and just stands there, glaring at her, waiting for her to get out so he can curse her some more. Here's the scene.....This punk-* "*" with his muscle shirt (the temp. is high 40's) pants, that would fit a 300 lb. man, halfway down his butt. His drawers hanging out. And now.....his "significant other" gets out of the car. (Have I told you how I feel about inter-racial relationships? Don't get me started!) Anyway...I see what's about to happen here so I walk over to the lady and tell her that I'll walk her into the store. She thanked me and said she was afraid to get out of her car while he was still there. I told her that his type was all mouth and probably wouldn't have done anything physical but let's not take the chance.Well....we start into the store and the punk and his girlfriend start walking toward another store. He's still glaring at us and mumbling something unintelligible.Didn't I tell you folks, some time ago, that I'm 6'6", 260lbs. and learned the art of intimidation early in life. Mudge the hero
    I can't come to work today. The voices said, STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS!
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  • austin247austin247 Member Posts: 375 ✭
    edited November -1
    223,While we can all relate to your feelings, I wouldn't suggest approaching a driver who has pissed you off in traffic. I've seen people shot over situations like that. Sure, at the end of it all he'd be the one going to jail, but that would be little consolation if you were seriously hurt or dead. And If you're both throwing punches on the road, chances are you'd probably both get arrested. There are three major US highways that run through my county in Texas, and I can tell you that road rage calls are a dime a dozen. I'm a traffic enforcement unit for my department, so I routinely get many calls per night about reckless drivers. I can't speak for everywhere, just my little part of this great state, or everyone, but my pet peeves with traffic are, in this order: 1. Intoxicated drivers2. Reckless drivers (and this includes speeders who think they own the road)3. Unsecured children bouncing all over the vehicle. You ain't gettin' no mercy from me in these situations. When I get a call about a reckless driver, I do my damnedest to find them. I've gotten a lot of drunks off the road that way. I look at it this way: for every drunk I get off the road, I might just be saving someone's life. This past Friday, I stopped a woman driving in excess of 100 mph in heavy traffic. When I approached her vehicle, there were three small children inside with her. Her "excuse"? The eight year old boy was acting up, so she was hurrying home to "discipline" him. So because she was pissed at her boy, she was putting herself, her children, and everyone else on the highway at risk. Unfortunately, our desire to get from Point A to Point B as fast as possible has increased, while our patience has decreased. Road rage incidents occur more and more often. While it's rare to be shot or hurt in a road rage incident, it does happen more and more often.And the fact that the odds are still against it happening to you is no consolation to those who the odds were against it happening to them, but it happened to them anyway. The incident that can't hurt you is the one that never happened. Sometimes we gotta just suck it up and let it go and avoid the confrontation. When there's a reckless driver on the road, give us a call. I do the best I can, but I can't be everywhere at once. I've gotten a lot drunks off the road, and hopefully gotten a few reckless drivers to slow down, because someone called them in. And hopefully, a few lives have been saved because someone called us to do what we're sworn to do.
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  • austin247austin247 Member Posts: 375 ✭
    edited November -1
    223,While we can all relate to your feelings, I wouldn't suggest approaching a driver who has pissed you off in traffic. I've seen people shot over situations like that. Sure, at the end of it all he'd be the one going to jail, but that would be little consolation if you were seriously hurt or dead. And If you're both throwing punches on the road, chances are you'd probably both get arrested. There are three major US highways that run through my county in Texas, and I can tell you that road rage calls are a dime a dozen. I'm a traffic enforcement unit for my department, so I routinely get many calls per night about reckless drivers. I can't speak for everywhere, just my little part of this great state, or everyone, but my pet peeves with traffic are, in this order: 1. Intoxicated drivers2. Reckless drivers (and this includes speeders who think they own the road)3. Unsecured children bouncing all over the vehicle. You ain't gettin' no mercy from me in these situations. When I get a call about a reckless driver, I do my damnedest to find them. I've gotten a lot of drunks off the road that way. I look at it this way: for every drunk I get off the road, I might just be saving someone's life. This past Friday, I stopped a woman driving in excess of 100 mph in heavy traffic. When I approached her vehicle, there were three small children inside with her. Her "excuse"? The eight year old boy was acting up, so she was hurrying home to "discipline" him. So because she was pissed at her boy, she was putting herself, her children, and everyone else on the highway at risk. Unfortunately, our desire to get from Point A to Point B as fast as possible has increased, while our patience has decreased. Road rage incidents occur more and more often. While it's rare to be shot or hurt in a road rage incident, it does happen more and more often.And the fact that the odds are still against it happening to you is no consolation to those who the odds were against it happening to them, but it happened to them anyway. The incident that can't hurt you is the one that never happened. Sometimes we gotta just suck it up and let it go and avoid the confrontation. When there's a reckless driver on the road, give us a call. I do the best I can, but I can't be everywhere at once. I've gotten a lot drunks off the road, and hopefully gotten a few reckless drivers to slow down, because someone called them in. And hopefully, a few lives have been saved because someone called us to do what we're sworn to do.
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kind of reminds me of something kind of funny that happend to me a few years ago. Thought I might share the story.After graduating from college, I drove a cab for awhile. Wosrt job I ever had. Driving around Philadelphia for 12 hours is quite stressful.Anyway, I was trying to switch lanes, and this fellow would not let me in. He looked at me, and saw me mouth an unkind word about his manuever. He kept looking at me in his rear view, and when we got to a light, he got out of his car and walked to my window.He was an Asian fellow who did not have a good command of the language."What you say.""Look, Im sorry, its been a rough day.""What you say?""Hey man, Im sorry"What you say?""Look just get back in your car""What you say?""Stop being an * and get back in your car""THATS WHAT YOU SAY! YOU SAY THAT!YOU SAY *"At that point he reached into my cab and grabbed me by my collar. His nose was about six inches from my fist, which I planted right between his eyes, on the bridge of his nose. He fell back, butt on the ground, eyes were tearing so much he could not see. He finally got up, and felt his way back to his car.I was nervous when the incident was happening, but I get a good chuckle thinking about it now.
    Happiness is a warm gun
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  • SNIPER1048SNIPER1048 Member Posts: 144 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GENTILEMEN: HERE IN ST. LOUIS WE HAD AN INCIDENT AT A COMMUTER PARKING LOT. 50ISH CAB DRIVER WITH WIFE;3 KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. SAW SOME EX-HUSBAND BEATING HIS WIFE ON THE LOT. DECIDED TO STOP IT AND WAS SHOT 2X TIMES WITH A .45AUTO AND KILLED. DIDN'T CATCH UP WITH THE EX UNTIL 2 MONTHS LATER IN NO. CALIF. AT THE FUNERAL SERVICE HIS FAMILY SAID HE WAS JUST THE TYPE OF PERSON TO JUMP IN TO THESE SIT. AND HIS WIDOW AND KIDS AND GRANDKIDS WERE REALLY GOING TO MISS HIM! HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE IF HE HAD JUST CALLED HIS DISPATCHER ON THE RADIO AND ASKED FOR THE POLICE.
    "START THE BALL ROLLING THERE, TECTOR"
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  • TeamblueTeamblue Member Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This one is for mudge:Good work. When I see older folks getting harrassed like you did or in need of any sort of help I think "What if that was my grandma or grandpa?" That gets me going good and I, like you, take the time to help however I can. Helping these folks is ALWAYS the right thing to do. Oh, and I agree with you on the I-RR thing.
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