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America, you lost. I won

RoadkillRoadkill Member Posts: 509 ✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
What a sad day for this country.........

Can't even get this basterd to die!

Was 9-11 sooooooooo long ago?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/03/moussaoui.verdict/index.html
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  • egatimraegatimra Member Posts: 469 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He wanted to die to be a "Martyr" for the cause. Life in prison, will be a short very painful time for him. At least I hope so!
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    I would rather martyr him, than feed him. Thirty five thousand dollars a year it will cost us Americans, I would've donated a bullet!
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    good point. there are american citizens who wont eat as well as this scum bag. every tax dollar you spend to keep this guy alive is coming out of your pocket and your childrens education. america is still stuck in a law enforcement mind set for terrorists. i cant believe we executed mcveigh and not this guy. sad sad day
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    Either way he would have said you lost I won! Maybe somone will cap him in prison.[xx(]
  • PATBUZZARDPATBUZZARD Member Posts: 3,556
    edited November -1
    I say we give a full pardon to whatever con shanks him!
  • goldslammergoldslammer Member Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm glad he got life. He wanted to die, so he could get to his "72 Virgins with Allah". In prison he will get 72 Vernon's, and Vernon is the biggest, baddest, blackest con in the joint. Lethal injection is a painless way to die, Leon injection is VERY painful, and I hope he will be getting his * injection frequently.

    rape.jpg
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by PATBUZZARD
    I say we give a full pardon to whatever con shanks him!


    You sir are a true patriot... I used to be ashamed to be a Michigander, And I still maintain loyalty to my new home Kentucky; But would be damn proud to call you neighor!
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gentlemen,

    The terrorist in question isn't going to the county pen, he's going to Federal Supermax prison. So he'll be living in a 7 x 11 foot cell with white painted walls, concrete furniture, and a narrow slit for a window 23 hours a day. . .for the rest of his life (in his case, that could easily be 40 more years).

    His mail will be read and censored, so will his reading material, and he'll have limited access to pen and paper.

    If he's well behaved, after a few years he will be allowed to quietly mingle with other prisoners a few hours per day. If he acts up, its right back in solitary. . .indefinitely.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence

    Good riddance. . .
  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    My vote is with "pat" and "KY" full pardon to the guy that shanks him.
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    quote:Originally posted by PATBUZZARD
    I say we give a full pardon to whatever con shanks him!


    You sir are a true patriot... I used to be ashamed to be a Michigander, And I still maintain loyalty to my new home Kentucky; But would be damn proud to call you neighor!

    [:0]What did you call him...the N word?
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by badwrench
    He'll be someone's punk. They'll swap him around for a pack of Luckies and a jug of toilet wine, until someone decides it's more fun to kill his *.

    I say right on. Sometimes life is worse than death. His punishment will be meted out in pain, and pain shall become his life, and I wish it to be long. I have no problem with my tax dollars supporting this, either. He will get his, in his due time.


    Cruel and unusual punishment is shunned by Americans! In my personal OPINION I think God would'nt want it either!

    Our commander in chief should shoot him and save us some money and dignity!
  • beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Think this guy has it good? Imagine living HERE for the next 40 years:

    http://www.vadoc.state.va.us/facilities/360/360_cell1.htm

    (Make sure you scroll around to check out the combi sink/toilet).

    "You lost, I won"?

    LMFAO! Sweet dreams pal. . .see you in 60 years.
  • AbdulazizAbdulaziz Member Posts: 65 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    They're gonna have fun with him...[:I]
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe he'll find god? Or else take a liking to BLT's [:p]

    I'm afraid I would have to shoot the bas/tard too. I remembere 9/11 just like I remember the day Kennedy got shot. Probably always will.
  • Veendam1Veendam1 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by goldslammer
    I'm glad he got life. He wanted to die, so he could get to his "72 Virgins with Allah". In prison he will get 72 Vernon's, and Vernon is the biggest, baddest, blackest con in the joint. Lethal injection is a painless way to die, Leon injection is VERY painful, and I hope he will be getting his * injection frequently.

    rape.jpg


    goldslammer----I heard they looked more closely at the koran where it mentions the 72 Virgins. They were in error, rumor has it
    it says, " A 72 year old Virgin."[:D][:D]
  • the_punisher_the_punisher_ Member Posts: 562 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    this guy kills 3,000 americans and all he gets is life in prison. i'm disappointed with the justice system. keyword "justice". what is the justice of putting the guy in a maximum security prison for the rest of his life, he's still alive and his victims are not. people lost family members , theres kids out there who lost their mom or dad or both in those attacks. where is the justice for them ? where is the justice for the 2 and a half year old baby that was on one of the planes ? it makes me sick thinking this Mossaoui guy is still living and a baby whose life had barely begun is dead . i hold a dear place in my heart for those who lost loved ones that terrible day. i am a pretty big guy but i am man enough to admit that i cryed on 9/11 .if it seems like i'm angry it's because i am . God bless America , cause you know we need some help.
  • spurgemasturspurgemastur Member Posts: 5,655 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can't back this up with any published sources, but I've heard it's actually a lot cheaper to imprison a person for life than it is to execute him. And given the mandatory appeals and all the other legal trauma that come with an execution, I'm inclined to believe it.

    Beyond that, he was examined by a jury. We need to respect their decision.

    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    I would rather martyr him, than feed him. Thirty five thousand dollars a year it will cost us Americans, I would've donated a bullet!
  • BlckhrnBlckhrn Member Posts: 5,136
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by goldslammer
    I'm glad he got life. He wanted to die, so he could get to his "72 Virgins with Allah". In prison he will get 72 Vernon's, and Vernon is the biggest, baddest, blackest con in the joint. Lethal injection is a painless way to die, Leon injection is VERY painful, and I hope he will be getting his * injection frequently.

    rape.jpg


    Precisely. Feed the meanie pork and beans for as long as we can keep him alive. Stuff a feeding tube in it and puree hog genitals for his sustenance against his will. Broadcast every minute of his worthless life from now on on satelite tv for the world to see.

    As for the death sentence? Maybe an electric weed eater until he renounces (pig T) all (ow) ah! Keep the infidel alive forever, get a taxidermist when the odds are slim. Make the heathen an example.
  • BlckhrnBlckhrn Member Posts: 5,136
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by AlbertLum
    good point. there are american citizens who wont eat as well as this scum bag. every tax dollar you spend to keep this guy alive is coming out of your pocket and your childrens education. america is still stuck in a law enforcement mind set for terrorists. i cant believe we executed mcveigh and not this guy. sad sad day


    I don't care if he gets to eat pork tederloins every day he has left. Divide 35,000 among the 3000 lives his band took and it is a pittance compared to the honor our country has in his confinement.

    Don't like pork? Go bleenin hungry, pagan. We'll just see how commited you are.
  • S. GrundyS. Grundy Member Posts: 67 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unless the guards want to play games with him he will never see general population. The govt has already said that much, although it was said a long time ago I remember it clearly. This guy will stay in his cell for the most part but will have access to all the little perks that make prison tolerable. I say we lost either way. Jail time and he lives to be a arrogant *, death penalty and he becomes a martyr for his cause.
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    why do i think that 'politics' had a hand in this verdict?
    virginia is losing its punch. im very sad. they let me down.
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • Young Ns GirlYoung Ns Girl Member Posts: 348 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by the_punisher_
    this guy kills 3,000 americans and all he gets is life in prison.

    There aren't sure if he had any involvement in 9/11,. They only thing they are sure about is that he hates Americans and wanted to kill them.
  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    Strap him into a remote controlled testplane - scheduled for crash test..
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,523 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dose him up good with AIDS and let him suffer a painful death.
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by kyplumber
    I would rather martyr him, than feed him. Thirty five thousand dollars a year it will cost us Americans, I would've donated a bullet!


    Actually the figure is more like $100,000 per year. But, don't forget that if he got death, he would be granted an immediate appeal. There simply isn't a choice in the matter -- it is part of the process.

    Figuring that monsters like Tookie Williams get to sit on death row for 10 or 20 years (let's take 20 just for kicks), that's an additional $2 million just in keeping the guy alive while he's awaiting execution.

    This, of course, doesn't count the cost of the appeal. You and I and every other taxpayer would have to pay for the entire appeal process -- the prosecution, the defense, and the court costs, along with the costs of providing this guy a bodyguard so that nobody can kill him before the State does.

    FWIW, this was the right choice. Please don't anyone make the mistake of saying that I am anti-capital punishment. I don't think we use it often enough (even in Texas). However, this piece of slime wants to die, and, IMO, the worst thing we can do is cater to his desire to be a martyr.

    Let him rot in prison. Let him live to the ripe old age of 200. This is a very young man, he's going to have about as miserable a life as possible 23 hours per day, 365 days per year, with nobody else to see but himself.

    SuperMax is solitary confinement. You get out of your cell 1 hour a day (if you're good) for exercise. You're provided food in your cell, your shower is in your cell, etc. There is no leaving the cell barring medical emergency and your 1 hour exercise period.

    Lions at the zoo lead a much, much better life.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
  • dlrjjdlrjj Member Posts: 5,529 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sure wouldn't be my definition of "winning", I hope he "enjoys" the prize.
    Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is an art form.
  • HappyNanoqHappyNanoq Member Posts: 12,023
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by select-fire
    Dose him up good with AIDS and let him suffer a painful death.


    Or just a slow working strain of Ebola.. perhaps.. ??!!?? [}:)]
  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The only possible way to make lemonade out of this lemon is to donate his organs. Whatever we need we take. That way he can "save 5 or 6 people". (but I guess that still leaves him in the hole 2995).
  • john wjohn w Member Posts: 4,104
    edited November -1
    They will kill him in prison so it's a win win situation!
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by john w
    They will kill him in prison so it's a win win situation!


    Unless the guards themselves do it, I doubt that very seriously.
  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still think these nuts need to be studied in order to hopefully thrawt futher attacks. This is really a golden opportunity to get inside a terrorists mind. This could save American and allied lives down the road. We could send him straight to hell, but, why blow up our own science project.
  • Veendam1Veendam1 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder
    If a Muslim were ever elected as US President, would they pardon this jerk in the name of Allah?
    Heck, maybe even some bleeding heart liberal would.[:(!]
  • spanielsellsspanielsells Member Posts: 12,498
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Veendam1
    I wonder
    If a Muslim were ever elected as US President, would they pardon this jerk in the name of Allah?
    Heck, maybe even some bleeding heart liberal would.[:(!]



    That's always a possibility. Clinton wasn't above doing it... look at the 16 terrorists he pardoned as he was exiting office.

    http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/08/faln.pardon/

    quote:WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Fallout from President Clinton's controversial pardons of 16 members of a Puerto Rican nationalist group last summer prompted Republicans Tuesday to introduce a measure to reform the pardon process and require input from victims and their families.

    FWIW, the FALN was not a peaceful organization.
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
    edited November -1
    Best thing a judge could do to him, or worse thing, depending on your thinking, is just what he did, with a permenant gag order....
    No interviews, no book deals, no chance at all to spout his crap...
    He may have known about the plot, but face it, he's even too "fringe" for them.
    He's like the Fredo of al qaeda, low man on the totem pole, and his arrest and trial had given him the opportunity to portray himself as a "big man".
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Veendam1
    I wonder
    If a Muslim were ever elected as US President, would they pardon this jerk in the name of Allah?
    Heck, maybe even some bleeding heart liberal would.[:(!]



    cindy sheehan thinks he should go free
  • shooter4shooter4 Member Posts: 4,457
    edited November -1
    He's going to a max security prison in Arizona.

    He should be going to the zoom building in Trenton, NJ.

    There, he will last 2 days.
  • anderskandersk Member Posts: 3,627 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    He made it pretty clear that he is a terribly guilty person. Seems to me like we have to go with the decision of the jury on the issue of guilt and on the penalty. The folks on the jury had access to a lot more information than we did, and they made the decision. That is the way the system works.

    It is a sad day ... but it could have been worse. At least there is no doubt: he has been found GUILTY. He thinks he won ... I don't thinks so! And if it matters, neither does his mother. I cannot imagine how terrible the rest of his days/weeks/months/years/eternity will be.

    I don't think you can say in all truth that he killed thousands of people. Seems like that is also what the jury concluded.

    True, if he had been honest with the police who were holding him, MAYBE the disaster could have been averted. But we don't even know that.

    He is a l-o-n-g ways from winning!
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In all the prison movies i've seen, the Guards are the rapists.
  • Veendam1Veendam1 Member Posts: 72 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 46270
    cindy sheehan thinks he should go free should go to supermax too.
    A Muslum president, yea right, no chance in hell for
    that.[/u]

    46270----Take a look at the following poll, a muslim president is not out of the realm of possibilities.

    Angus Reid Global Scan : Polls & Research
    Americans Ponder Evangelical, Muslim President
    April 25, 2006
    (Angus Reid Global Scan) - Many adults in the United States would not see faith as a deterrent for a politician seeking the nation's highest office, according to poll by Ipsos-Reid released by CanWest Global. 64 per cent of respondents say they would be willing to vote for a presidential candidate who was an Evangelical, and 63 per cent would back a Muslim.
    U.S. president George W. Bush-a born-again Christian-has referred to the role religion plays in his life on several occasions. During his acceptance speech at the Republican convention in September 2004, Bush said, "I believe that America is called to lead the cause of freedom in a new century (...) because freedom is not America's gift to the world, it is the almighty God's gift to every man and woman in this world."

    During his first term, Bush endeavoured to develop faith-based initiatives. The strategy dispenses federal funds to religious and community organizations, which in turn develop assistance programs. The policy has faced criticism for allegedly ignoring the separation between church and state. 52 per cent of respondents say they would vote for an atheist presidential contender.

    Polling Data

    If a presidential candidate belongs to a political party you like and has many views which you like, would you be willing to vote for such a person if the person is...

    An Evangelical
    64%

    A Muslim
    63%

    An atheist and does not believe in God
    52%



    Source: Ipsos-Reid / CanWest Global
    Methodology: Telephone interviews with 768 American adults, conducted on Apr. 11 and Apr. 12, 2006. Margin of error is 3.5 per cent.
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