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So, what's with New Jersey's new Gov?

RedlegRedleg Member Posts: 417 ✭✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
Is he pro or anti? I am a Washingtonian, but I can only get NYC Direct TV channels, so I hear a lot about the NE news.
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Sceevey McGreevey......pray for us. In spite of ALL our work, we can kiss gun law reform goodbye in NJ, at least for the next four years.
    It's the stuff dreams are made of AngelI am the NRA, the RKBA, NJ Area Rep for the 2ampd, and the AARP njretcop@copmail.com[This message has been edited by njretcop (edited 11-07-2001).]
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    McGreevey makes Stalin look like a lover of freedom.NJRETCOP- The republican party in your state should be ashamed. I must have seen 500 commercials for McGeevey in the past two months, and I saw less than ten for Schundler. It was the same for Radio commercials.The party never got beyond the Bob Franks beating, and it appears they refused to support Schundler.No Republicans came out to campaign for Schundler, the GOP of New Jersey gave him little money.I could understand liberal Whirman and Franks not coming out and campaigning for him. But what about GW? Where was he?
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I really believe his rigid anti abortion stance was the kiss of death as it has been for past political candidates. Republicans need to recognize this.Mc Greevy wants to register all guns. Nice !
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    v35- I dont think so.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dosen't matter. NJ just elected another socialist jerk. Another four years of idiocy.
    So many guns to buy. So little money.
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Salzo, you raise a very good point that many of us asked during the campaign. We know that there was bad blood between Schundler and the acting governor, but where was the national party?As it turned out, it wouldn't have helped because our candidate betrayed us in the end by reversing his position on gun law reform.Rather than elect Benedict Schundler, we decided to stay home and plan for 2006 with a candidate who will stand up for his beliefs and principals. I worked very hard for this man up until the last two weeks when he or someone in his campaign came up with the idea that maybe their candidate was too conserative for NJ. I'm disappointed, but I will never give up the battle to see NJ a "shall issue" state.
    It's the stuff dreams are made of AngelI am the NRA, the RKBA, NJ Area Rep for the 2ampd, and the AARP :(njretcop@copmail.com
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    NJRETCOP- You guys probably did the right thing staying home. I noticed a major league 180 from Schundler with respect to guns and abortion. It appeared he went with the misguided notion that he had to be more "moderate" to get elected. When will the Republicans realize that when they try to appease the moderate wing, they are completely abandoning the base of the party. And those guys(the base) will just assume stay home rather than elect someone who resembles a democrat more than a conservative. The base is less inclined to abandon their principles and vote for someone just for the sake of the party.My brother lives on Long Island, and he was completely disgusted by the Republican party on Long Island, which would not throw their weight behiund a very conservative candidate. He wrote the party a letter about his intentions on election day. He voted DEMOCRAT straight down the line, with the exception of the one Conservative on the ticket. If enough Republicans start doing that, then the republican party will have to come back to the right.
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo - I hear you but believe you are fighting windmills to think a staunchly pro-life conservative can make it in these times in NY or NJ. We're not judging the right or wrong of the issue, just its' popularity and probability of success. Schundler was totally unprepared to field McGreevys' direct attack on the gun issue with a knowledgeable and reasonable response. His unpreparedness was unforgivable. In spite of his failure on the gun issue, I believe Bretts' pro-life position killed it for him.
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    V35- I might be wrong, but I am not too concerned about probabilty of success. Sometimes we have to go to the abyss in order to get back on top. I do not live in New Jerset, but if I did, and I had to choose between DiFrancesco or Bob Franks, and McGreevey, I would not vote, or I would vote third party. I will not compromise my positions for the simple reason that the party decides they cant win unless they support positions that I do not agree with. I do not like what Whitman did as governor, and she was a Republican. I dont think Jersey was a good place with Whitman and a congress that was moderate Republicans. Will it be worse with a Democrat Congress and a Democrat Governor? Probably. But I do not necessarily see that as a bad thing. If it gets really bad, the Republicans will have to come back more to the Right.Alot of people say that John McPain would have won hands down if he was the GOP nominee. I dont think so. If McPain was the nominee, he might have picked up some Democrat votes, but he would have lost a ton of conservative Republicans.McPain claims he lost in the primaries because he was outspent. What a bunch of nonsense!! McPain had more exposure(thanks to a press who loved the "renegade")than all of the other candidates combined. Using his logic, he should have one. But the reason he did not win was because the base of the party did not like his flip flopping to appease so called moderates and liberals."If you try and please everybody, you please nobody"(maybe I should put that on the "favorite quotes" thread.
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  • Walt NunleyWalt Nunley Member Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IM NOT GOING TO BE VERY POPULAR AFTER THIS BUT... MCGREEVEY IS A DEMOCRAT IT WOULD NOT MATTER IF YOU HAD HIM ON TAPE SELLING HIS SOUL TO SATAN THE MINORITIES WOULD VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE IS THE MAN WITH THE HANDOUT.I WAS TOLD ONLY ABOUT 20% SHOWED UP TO VOTE.YOU CAN BET YOUR SWEET A#$ THE HOMEYS FROM THE HOOD SHOWED UP IN DROVES TO KEEP THE FREE CHEESE ROLLING.SORRY ITS THE SAME EVERYWHERE
    Submarine Sailor,Truck Driver,and very bad typist.GO RUSTY #2
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  • rodgergliderodgerglide Member Posts: 184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey Walt Nunly...I agree with you 100%!! I am a union member and thereby am urged to go straight Democrat by my union and most of it's reps. However,I am a veteran and a gun owner so I say no way! The Democratic party has gone from being the party of the working man to the party of the man who will not work.Sorry to hear that only 20% showed up to vote in NJ.I was born there and still have family there,but AL has been my home for the last 23 years and I am "American by Birth-Southern by the Grace of God" and plan to stay this way.
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  • Walt NunleyWalt Nunley Member Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ROGERGLIDE I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN I LIVE IN TENNESSEE AND WOULDNT LIVE UP YONDER TO SAVE MY HIND END.WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE SOME THINS AROUND THOUGH NJRETCOP MAY DEFECT HA HA HELL NEED A PLACE TO STAY
    Submarine Sailor,Truck Driver,and very bad typist.GO RUSTY #2
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