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The word translated "was" can also be translated "became." When you put "became" in there, it gives the phrase a whole new meaning, or at least a more clear meaning.
It also leads to questions? How long was the earth here before it "became formless and void." What happened to cause the earth to be "formless and void."
It leads me to believe that the earth existed long before the recorded story of Creation, but something happened to it. What? A great rebellion, a heavenly war, maybe, as recorded elsewhere in the Bible.
Thusly, I have no problem believing that the earth, in its current form is fairly young, and I have no problem reconciling the fossil records with that belief.
I also think it's humorous that the geologists, paleontologists, and other scientists have had to seriously revise their opinions and theories over the years, when they realized that what they formerly stated as fact was wrong.
God doesn't change. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. He also has nothing to prove. He says, "I AM," and that is enough.
It's the same with the debate over evolution & creation.
The true believers demand that the evolutionists prove their belief but when they are asked for proof all they offer is "faith". To them the lack of proof is a virture. There is no point in arguing with such fools.
quote:Originally posted by gruntled
It's the same with the debate over evolution & creation.
The true believers demand that the evolutionists prove their belief but when they are asked for proof all they offer is "faith". To them the lack of proof is a virture. There is no point in arguing with such fools.
Gruntled: I almost question the depth of your research into this topic if the only answer you could find was "faith". But clearly you have researched the subject extensively and become well educated in matters of creation. Otherwise you couldn't justly call others with a different opinion then yours "fools", lest you be an expert yourself [;)]
Heres just a few links for you if you decide to continue in your exhaustive study.
[url][/url]www.creationevidence.org
[url][/url]www.unevolved.org
[url][/url]www.matthewmcgee.org/creation.html
[url][/url]http://www.faizani.com/news/news_2003/math_impossibility.html
Catholics theorize that science and biblical teachings can exist harmoniously by one helping to explain and interpret the other.
Tell that to Galileo. (And if you think I'm being flip, bear in mind that the Catholic church finally got around to admitting that it was wrong in. . . 1992. Perhaps in 2400 the Pope will finally apologize for all those priests raping little children all across America. Perhaps.)
quote:Originally posted by tccox
ZULU7, I will say two words to you: sophmoric & juvenile. I know you are trying desperately to reach 10,000 replies but why don't you give it a rest?? Tom
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The word translated "was" can also be translated "became." When you put "became" in there, it gives the phrase a whole new meaning, or at least a more clear meaning.
It also leads to questions? How long was the earth here before it "became formless and void." What happened to cause the earth to be "formless and void."
It leads me to believe that the earth existed long before the recorded story of Creation, but something happened to it. What? A great rebellion, a heavenly war, maybe, as recorded elsewhere in the Bible.
Thusly, I have no problem believing that the earth, in its current form is fairly young, and I have no problem reconciling the fossil records with that belief.
I also think it's humorous that the geologists, paleontologists, and other scientists have had to seriously revise their opinions and theories over the years, when they realized that what they formerly stated as fact was wrong.
God doesn't change. He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. He also has nothing to prove. He says, "I AM," and that is enough.
The true believers demand that the evolutionists prove their belief but when they are asked for proof all they offer is "faith". To them the lack of proof is a virture. There is no point in arguing with such fools.
It's the same with the debate over evolution & creation.
The true believers demand that the evolutionists prove their belief but when they are asked for proof all they offer is "faith". To them the lack of proof is a virture. There is no point in arguing with such fools.
Gruntled: I almost question the depth of your research into this topic if the only answer you could find was "faith". But clearly you have researched the subject extensively and become well educated in matters of creation. Otherwise you couldn't justly call others with a different opinion then yours "fools", lest you be an expert yourself [;)]
Heres just a few links for you if you decide to continue in your exhaustive study.
[url][/url]www.creationevidence.org
[url][/url]www.unevolved.org
[url][/url]www.matthewmcgee.org/creation.html
[url][/url]http://www.faizani.com/news/news_2003/math_impossibility.html
Tell that to Galileo. (And if you think I'm being flip, bear in mind that the Catholic church finally got around to admitting that it was wrong in. . . 1992. Perhaps in 2400 the Pope will finally apologize for all those priests raping little children all across America. Perhaps.)
ZULU7, I will say two words to you: sophmoric & juvenile. I know you are trying desperately to reach 10,000 replies but why don't you give it a rest?? Tom
Piss off.
at least a million years old! or else how do you explain this
That's a lie!
They didn't have silicon implants a million years ago.
...or did they??[;)]
Zulu, What can I say? I think sophmoric is giving you WAY to much credit!! Tom