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Firing vintage weapons

squeakycsqueakyc Member Posts: 204 ✭✭✭
edited May 2002 in General Discussion
I have several old Winchesters and a couple of vintage colt pistols. One is an 1849 pocket; the other is an 1860 army. Once or twice a year I go to the range with a buddy and we spend an afternoon firing our vintage pieces. The most fun is loading up the colts and firing a few rounds. The feel of firing them is nothing like using new black powder reproductions. The only guns I own that I won't fire are two Ross rifles as they are definitely not safe to fire.
So far there have been no problems in firing them but others at the club think it is crazy to use them. Does anyone else fire his/her vintage weapons every now and then? How safe are they to use?

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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It varies from firearm to firearm. Have a competent gunsmith inspect it before firing. If there are doubts in your mind or questions that you have, don't let them go unresolved before you risk your life (and a beautiful piece of history).

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
  • RockinURockinU Member Posts: 248
    edited November -1
    if you add the blood of tyrants to that quote, I think you have something that Thomas Jefferson said.
  • .250Savage.250Savage Member Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My buddy likes to shoot old Damascus shotguns with blackpowder loads (which is what they were designed for). Gets lots of looks at the trap range, but with the clouds of smoke, he has to let others tell him if he scores or not!

    I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.--Voltaire~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I shoot all my antique guns but I've just about had it with black powder. The cleanup is just too messy and it's a pain to take the guns completely apart to do a proper job.
    Years back while trying to get a max load of powder into a CW Sharps carbine, I was careless and some powder got below the barrel into the forend. When I fired, the forend split in two pieces. Nice!
    The 41 Colt Thunderer is a nightmare any way you look at it. It's giving me a hard time getting it to work properly. Putting ammo together is something else with it's funny undersized heel bullets. This is a challenge I wont give up on. A surprising thing about Lightnings is that most of those you see are worn out. One would think
    these mechanical nightmares would have been retired after a few breakdowns in favor of more reliable revolvers.
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hehehe, thats funny, kinda reminds me of when my friend and I load up our blackpowders. Four pistols and one rifle between the both of us. And we'll load them all up at once, then fire them off one after the other as fast as we can safely do so, to see how much smoke we can make. The other shooters on the range get pissed when they can't see the target too.

    I just wish I had a dollar for every gun I wanted, then I'd be a rich man.
  • RockinURockinU Member Posts: 248
    edited November -1
    So that was you? You know we were discussing the feasability of assasination...we didn't think anybody would be able to prove which one of us did it with all that smoke.
  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    They are only as safe as they are....

    The curio sellers always have that disclaimer about having your gun examined by a qualified gunsmith before firing, but a gunsmith can't anticipate every possibility. The truth is, guns are made to be dangerous, they are made to direct the energy of controlled explosions, and there is always an element of risk in firing them. The risk of firing old guns of indeterminate condition is somewhat greater. The risk of firing them with modern ammo can be even greater, but old ammo has its own risks too.

    I have an old Mauser 1934 that seemed fine until one day a gun dealer was dry firing it and half the striker pin flew out -- he split the cost with me of replacing the "firing pin." It was in great shooting condition right up until it wasn't.

    Nobody can guarantee you won't get hurt either by the catastrophic failure of an old gun or by the failure of similarly old ammo (hangfires, etc.). On the other hand, you may never have a single problem. Or it may be that a gun will warn you that it is failing gradually by cracks or separating parts. If I were you, I'd shoot old guns wearing goggles as usual, and maybe a flak vest, even after they've been declared safe by your local gunsmith. And I wouldn't let my friends stand too close to me while shooting them either. Reasonable care is a series of personal choices. I'd examine my guns closely after each shooting session to check for faults, when cleaning them.

    - Life NRA Member
    If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Broken firing pin tips can happen with guns that are dry fired a lot.
    They dont have to be antique.
  • joeaf1911a1joeaf1911a1 Member Posts: 2,962 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A lot of us shoot them. I use a 56-56 Spencer and a 1887 lever action
    Winchester 12 ga. Both with black powder and a bit lighter loads
    than designed for. Spencer has a converted centerire breech block
    and flat mag follower.
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