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Three states luring Remington from NY State

Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
edited February 2013 in General Discussion
Remington has been making firearms in Ilion, NY since 1816 but New York's "SAFE" gun law is jeopardizing 1,300 jobs and the entire economy of the small village. It would be a travesty to lose them, both historically and economically.

Three states trying to lure Remington Arms out of Ilion

Story Updated: Jan 29, 2013 at 5:19 PM EST

ILION, N.Y. (WKTV) - As lawmakers at both the state and federal level crack down on gun control, the union for works at Remington Arms in Ilion say other states are working to lure the plant away.

According to Frank "Rusty" Brown, the local chairman of the United Mine Workers 717, the states of Michigan, Texas and Oklahoma are all currently trying to lure Remington out of Ilion and to their state.

A letter was hand delivered from the Union to lawmakers in Albany that urged them to consider the 1,300 employees in Ilion when making decisions about gun control, Brown said.

Brown says the three states are offering great opportunities, including state of the art facilities and tax incentives.

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  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They should dump the Union and move to VA, SC or GA, or some other southern state that would appreciate the jobs.
  • fideaufideau Member Posts: 11,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remington home headquarters is in Madison, NC. They could easily move everything here.
    Para Ordnance moved to NC several years ago also.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,437 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    They should dump the Union and move to VA, SC or GA, or some other southern state that would appreciate the jobs.
    One would think they'd be equally, if not more, welcome in some of the western states.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • McDAccountantMcDAccountant Member Posts: 466 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    They should dump the Union and move to VA, SC or GA, or some other southern state that would appreciate the jobs.


    Toss the good ol' WV in that group, too!
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ilion, NY is an old, small village about an hour from me. Losing Remington would devastate them. Not only would 1,300 workers lose their jobs but numerous small businesses would go out of business, not to mention the tax losses.

    I saw the devastation in my own home town of Rome, NY when the BRAC Commission closed Griffiss AFB. What was once a thriving city is now just a shell of its former self.
  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The conditions in NV would also benefit the factory. Lots of willing workers, gun friendly citizens, and no income tax. [:D]
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remington will be moving to Tennessee. Remember, you heard it here first.
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm OK with that!
  • CbtEngr01CbtEngr01 Member Posts: 4,340
    edited November -1
    I wrote my state senator last week about making a plan to invite those companies in anti gun states to NC.
  • themountainmanthemountainman Member Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My vote is "THE GREENEST STATE IN THER LAND OF THE FREE"[:D]
    There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those who can do math and those who can't. :?
  • CoolhandLukeCoolhandLuke Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If they move how long will it take them to start producing guns at new location, ball park figure? and if they stop * to move will remington guns go up in price?
    We have to fight so we can run away.
    Capt. Jack Sparrow.
  • NOAHNOAH Member Posts: 9,690
    edited November -1
    [8D]TEXAS REMINGTON'S[8D]

    has a nice ring to that[;)][^]
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hope they stay put for the sake of it's employees, but they can relocate and get out of there too. Illion NY and remington is a tradition.
  • ltcdotyltcdoty Member Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    Ilion, NY is an old, small village about an hour from me. Losing Remington would devastate them. Not only would 1,300 workers lose their jobs but numerous small businesses would go out of business, not to mention the tax losses.

    I saw the devastation in my own home town of Rome, NY when the BRAC Commission closed Griffiss AFB. What was once a thriving city is now just a shell of its former self.


    Didn't they lose Beech Nut Baby Food out that way several years ago.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ilion should secede. [:D]
  • Sooeyman2035Sooeyman2035 Member Posts: 3,226
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
    The conditions in NV would also benefit the factory. Lots of willing workers, gun friendly citizens, and no income tax. [:D]
    And Harry Reid?
  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I feel for the 1300 in Iloin but Cumo should've thought of the consequences I would like to see Henry Rifles move also
  • Cornflk1Cornflk1 Member Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remington, PLEASE come to Indiana.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fideau
    Remington home headquarters is in Madison, NC. They could easily move everything here.
    Para Ordnance moved to NC several years ago also.


    They have a parts distribution center in Salem VA
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Kimber should haul * too
  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remington already has an ammunition plant near Little Rock so they could come to Arkansas.
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    Too old to live...too young to die...
  • mike_02mike_02 Member Posts: 259 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I believe they have a manufacturing facility in Mayfield Kentucky also.
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Give incentives to the 1300 to leave with the plant.
  • silent-anarchysilent-anarchy Member Posts: 97 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Michigan is a bad choice, far too anti-gun . They should simply move to scranton or wilkes barre pa.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...they voted the bums in office and the bums don't care about them ...past time for the FEW manufacturers left in America to vote with their actions...my state senator ignored all of my emails after she got elected and finally after 12 years got voted out.. my state rep won her seat after redistricting and now the same big lobbies are smoozing all around him..he ignored my first email with no answer so same s--t seems to be in place..past time..you and me don't count anymore so it is up to some big boys hopefully to shake the tree..sadly legislators have made kansas a sanctuary state with freebies for illegals against the majority of the ordinary peoples wishes and grace them with around $450 million + every year
  • gregwgregw Member Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    spoke with a worker at STAG ARMS in Connecticut yesterday and he said that they are trying to impose even stricter gun laws in Conn than NYs so STAG ARMS would have to move out of that small village as well devastating that town
  • bigboy12bigboy12 Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    Remington will be moving to Tennessee. Remember, you heard it here first.

    I heard that same rumor. I hope it is true. We already have Barret making .50 cals in Murfreesboro. Remington or any other firearms company would be welcome here.
  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Onehandude
    If they move how long will it take them to start producing guns at new location, ball park figure? and if they stop * to move will remington guns go up in price?



    If they move it will be a 3 day start up .
    Close on Friday ---- open for business on Monday .
    All new equiptment installed months before and new employees already trained .
    Wonder how those Union guys feel about their votes ?
  • trapguy2007trapguy2007 Member Posts: 8,959
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ruger41
    Give incentives to the 1300 to leave with the plant.


    And bring their union ways and liberal votes with them ?[xx(]
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    leve them to whine to the union bosses so they can cry for a taxpayer bailout...
  • jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,344 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Probably move to Mexico or China like a lot of other companies. Cheaper labor, taxes and about everything else and even no environmental laws to worry about.
  • headzilla97headzilla97 Member Posts: 6,445
    edited November -1
    Beech Nut did not close, but rather relocate from Canajoharie to Amsterdam. Canjo is now a ghost town. The Beech Nut sign came down today.
  • ChalklineChalkline Member Posts: 90 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Union members typically vote Democratic. And now there are jobs consequences.

    How many Republican politicians did you ever see who initiated more restrictive gun laws? Most are 2A supporters in action and deed. Not like our prez who's suddenly decided he's a skeet shooter, yet no one, including the White House photographer, can produce a single photo showing him holding a gun. Much less shooting one.
  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ltcdoty
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    Ilion, NY is an old, small village about an hour from me. Losing Remington would devastate them. Not only would 1,300 workers lose their jobs but numerous small businesses would go out of business, not to mention the tax losses.

    I saw the devastation in my own home town of Rome, NY when the BRAC Commission closed Griffiss AFB. What was once a thriving city is now just a shell of its former self.


    Didn't they lose Beech Nut Baby Food out that way several years ago.


    That was Canajoharie. It was an economic tragedy for that small town as well.
  • Leeroy JenkinsLeeroy Jenkins Member Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go Texas!

    Just read a news article about how companies and people are relocating from Commiefornia to Texas. We'll take those that are willing to work and contribute, the rest can stay where they are.
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,239 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jltrent
    Probably move to Mexico or China like a lot of other companies. Cheaper labor, taxes and about everything else and even no environmental laws to worry about.
    Yep.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Alabama" ...cradle of the Confederacy! Steel mill,ready workers,and no unions!Tax incentives,and gun friendly!Excellent climate!Transportation!Mayflower service to move them south...
  • bartman45bartman45 Member Posts: 3,008 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ruger41
    Give incentives to the 1300 to leave with the plant.


    That would be outstanding if a majority left, tax base gone, production taxes gone. NY made their bed. Let them live with their decisions.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    last thing companies that relocate should do is place large ads in the larger area newspapers explaining why in dollars and cents figures and telling the people to remember this next election... and GOODBYE
  • jdowneyjdowney Member Posts: 15 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    While such moves would obviously devastate the communities where they are currently located, all I have to say about it is this: It does matter who you vote for!

    Companies are not obligated to stay in communities where they are currently located, especially if the state level politicians are actively hostile to the company's business interests.
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