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Should Hate Speech Be Outlawed?

serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
edited October 2012 in General Discussion
It's only a matter of time!This forum here will change soon enough!

serf

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/jun/07/should-hate-speech-be-outlawed/?pagination=

Waldron believes that we have overprotected speech that not only causes significant harm to the dignity of minority groups but also, more importantly, diminishes the public good of inclusiveness that is an essential attribute of our society.
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  • MMOMEQ-55MMOMEQ-55 Member Posts: 13,134
    edited November -1
    This shouldn't even be a question. The Constitution gives the right to free speech. If one does not like what a person is saying then do not listen.
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  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Truth is already the new hate speech.
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I could support the amendment, but only IF it appoints ME as the sole adjudicator of what speech is offensive. [;)][:D]
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  • andrewsw16andrewsw16 Member Posts: 10,728 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Of course, that's the key point isn't it? WHO defines what is "hate speech"? Anyone advocating the restriction fails to imagine that it can be used by the wrong people in power to subjugate ANYONE. [xx(] Any opposition to the power block gets deemed "hate speech" and off to the gulag for YOU. [xx(]
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  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,404 ******
    edited November -1
    What's hate speech?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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  • xstuntmanxstuntman Member Posts: 678 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gee, i wonder which ethnic group is pushing this.

    They won't be happy until everyone prays at dawn and beats the wife regularly.
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  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
    This shouldn't even be a question. The Constitution gives the right to free speech. If one does not like what a person is saying then do not listen.
    Seems reasonable to me...
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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hate broccoli and I don't care who knows it. [xx(]
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    What's hate speech?


    Bingo!

    Clouder..
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  • yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,980 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nope. It's too PC. I suppose "here" is not the place for NC-17 uneddited type.

    Then again in the real world you can be arrested for saying something about killng someone. Where is the First on that?
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    Truth is already the new hate speech.


    BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Put up a billboard explaining truthfully, that voter fraud is a FELONY and some Cleveland Councilwoman starts screaming racism and voter intimidation (hate speech).
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  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
    What's hate speech?



    Soon, it will be the same as 'Hateful body positioning'. Which is a refusal to bend over.
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  • Sav99Sav99 Member Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will strong dislike speech still be permitted?
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  • ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    Free speech has its limits, but I'd rather err on the side of too much freedom than not enough.

    Hate speech, while insulting and denigrating to the God-given right to free speech that we enjoy, is subjective and can not be adequately or reliably defined. If we were to make hate speech in and only of itself a criminal offense, we would be opening the floodgates to stifling political dissent, differences of opinion, and anything else deemed unpopular.

    I don't agree with or approve of hatemongering, but it's the price we pay to live in a free society.
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  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's really simple!You can call anyone anything except when it comes to his/her race.Of course genocide speech is already banned. You just don't get it! Racism will be outlawed even on a personnel level and it's coming one way or another.I would be getting ready for it if I where you.

    serf



    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    Free speech has its limits, but I'd rather err on the side of too much freedom than not enough.

    Hate speech, while insulting and denigrating to the God-given right to free speech that we enjoy, is subjective and can not be adequately or reliably defined. If we were to make hate speech in and only of itself a criminal offense, we would be opening the floodgates to stifling political dissent, differences of opinion, and anything else deemed unpopular.

    I don't agree with or approve of hatemongering, but it's the price we pay to live in a free society.
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ElMuertoMonkey
    Free speech has its limits, but I'd rather err on the side of too much freedom than not enough.

    Hate speech, while insulting and denigrating to the God-given right to free speech that we enjoy, is subjective and can not be adequately or reliably defined. If we were to make hate speech in and only of itself a criminal offense, we would be opening the floodgates to stifling political dissent, differences of opinion, and anything else deemed unpopular.

    I don't agree with or approve of hatemongering, but it's the price we pay to live in a free society.


    Anyone who'd say "We should kill all blacks." needs to go to jail---I'd suggest Attica or Angola.

    Clouder..
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  • o b juano b juan Member Posts: 1,941 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    talk about hate speech!! I just was flipping thru the channel
    and there was Crissy (the Sissy) Matthews saying the right and repubs were all HATERS..
    How much hate must you have in your heart to say that??[xx(][xx(]
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  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MMOMEQ-55
    The Constitution gives the right to free speech.I firmly agree with your sentiment, but not the wording.

    People often have the mindset that the 1st Amendment endows us with the right to free speech. Same as with the rest of this document, this amendment actually gives us the right to be free of laws restricting our actions.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Societal norms may set rules of what's deemed acceptable speech, meaning that people may be publicly derided, ostracized, etc. for their statements, but the wording of our Constitution is very clear on our government's involvement in this.
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  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd be in support of banning love speech first.
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  • dfletcherdfletcher Member Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hate speech could be outlawed, but it would require a constitutional amendment, not just a law. I think the 1st Amendment is fine as is, in general.
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  • kumateliveskumatelives Member Posts: 2,609
    edited November -1
    Romney has been spreading hate speech by telling the truth about the bruised * during his campain
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  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Democratic Party would be the first to go...
    ....................................................................................................
    Too old to live...too young to die...
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