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I could use some suggestions.

DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
edited May 2006 in General Discussion
I am teaching a film study class and I could use some ideas on movies to show the class. They should be no worse than PG13 just because I am unconfortable showing films with nudity and too much harsh language but at the same time they should be interesting in terms of movie-making art or social/political symbolism. Here's my current list:

12 Angry Men (Drama, hit you in the head with social commentary, good acting.)

Citizen Kane (Ditto, plus inovative film techniques.)

High Noon (The classic western anti-hero story.)

The Grapes of Wrath (Can you say "FDR will save America from the evil capitalists?")

Inherit the Wind (Courtroom drama mixed with religion.)

The Birds (The classic Hitchcock suspense thriller.)

Them! (The classic 1950s monster horror flick.)

Rudy (One of the great sports films.)

Sergeant York (One of the great war movies and biographies.)

Pleasantville (Can you say "Conservatives are stuck in the past and can only see in black and white until liberals enlighten them?")

Duel (Intense drama on a one to one scale.)

Any ideas?
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭
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    To Kill a Mockingbird
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
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    It would help to know what the point of showing the film is, else why are they there?
  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
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    the green mile...
  • Flyin_PaulieFlyin_Paulie Member Posts: 857 ✭✭✭✭
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    What ages? College, High School? What you have listed is pretty much standard fare for film study classes.
  • kristovkristov Member Posts: 6,633
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    Social/Political: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, original version.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    dr strange love
  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by kristov
    Social/Political: Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, original version.

    What would be the "social/political symbolism" of that or Duel or The Birds? More to the point, what is it about "social/political symbolism" in movies that needs to be studied? To tell us what we already had to know in order for there to be any symbolism in the first place?
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
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    Hitchcock films are some of my favorites- Psycho, North by Northwest; and some of the Bogart films- Casablanca, Maltese Falcon;
    and a few "war" movies- Guadalcanal Diary, Three Came Home.
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭
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    "Slacker" by Richard Linklater, NOT the "Slacker" that came out recently by someone else....this came out in the late 80s.


    Merc
  • buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
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    well, you can't show this to your class (samurai slasher film) but since you're interested in moviemaking... check out this film called "Izo" by Takashi Miike (2004).

    in terms of storytelling, I think it's the most advanced film I've ever seen. no critic has understood it. I figured it out. I know what it all means. Can you? In the meantime, hang on for one * of a ride.

    too bad you couldn't show it to the class though.
  • FrogbertFrogbert Member Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "The Hustler" with Paul Newman, Piper Laurie, Jackie Gleason, and George C. Scott. This wonderful film exposes the truth about the ugly side and low moral character of conmen and gamblers and the promoters of the contests they use to vie for power and wealth and fame. Will give students a realistic view to compare to the glamour and excitement the entertainment industry portrays to them in the media today, expecially in regard to gambling and drinking.

    "Scarecrow" with Gene Hackman and Al Pacino. A film about hope for uncentered men with little future, about having a dream, about loving and losing a child and its effect, in particular on a young man, which is seldom considered equitably in todays world where productions about that subject are made in abundance usually by or for women and from their point of view. (Both the above might be better restricted to High School age)>

    "The Stars Over Henrietta" A terrificly entertaining film starring Robert Duval. About friendship and loyalty and using your wits and what it can bring you and cost you.

    "The Rievers" from the classic story by William Faulkner with:
    Cast overview, first billed only:
    Steve McQueen .... Boon Hogganbeck
    Sharon Farrell .... Corrie
    Ruth White .... Miss Reba
    Michael Constantine .... Mr. Binford
    Clifton James .... Butch Lovemaiden
    Juano Hernandez .... Uncle Possum
    Lonny Chapman .... Maury
    Will Geer .... Boss
    Rupert Crosse .... Ned
    Mitch Vogel .... Lucius
    Diane Shalet .... Hannah
    Pat Randall .... May Ellen
    Diane Ladd .... Phoebe
    Ellen Geer .... Sally
    Dub Taylor .... Dr. Peabody
    (more)
    tremendously entertaining about life and sneaking off and forbidden fruit and growing up in early 20th century America.

    (Cast list for "The Reivers" is C&P and the edit is for spelling.)
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
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    If they are mature, intelligent adults, you might consider D.W. Griffin's BIRTH OF A NATION. It was the first movie epic and the Civil War was not yet 60 years past when it was filmed. It's hardly PC though, but for historic record, it cannot be faulted. It also highlights Nathan Bedford Forrest's role after the war.

    LAWRENCE OF ARABIA was Peter O'Tooles first movie and as a character study of how chance can turn a borderline psychotic into a acclaimed hero. Anthony Quinn's portrayal of a Bedouin is unsurpassed.

    FORBIDDEN PLANET was made in 1955, but the Shakespearen storyline (The Tempest) never gets old. Leslie Nielson, Ann Francis, and Walter Pidgeon do a splendid job. It's also "Robby's" debut.

    Another Peter O'Toole film of note is LORD JIM. A character study of a man who gets a second chance and still makes a poor choice, but is man enough to accept it. One of Joseph Conrads' best novels.

    SEVEN DAYS IN MAY (original) has Lancaster and Douglas as military men involved in a military takeover of the US Government. This was timely when MacArthur was a general, and may be timely again. A good example of why civilian leadership is a requirement in a democracy.

    Good choices on your picks. Inherit the Wind is an all time favorite of mine.[;)]
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
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    read your email...just some advise
  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
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    Star Wars trilogy (modern myth making at work)

    Patton (awesome war movie. Little rough on the language but nothing most kids haven't heard and even better than some PG-13s nowadays)

    Clint's Spaghetti westerns (exemplifies the American individualist)

    American Graffitti (classic coming of age story)

    Stand by me (ditto)

    Dr. Strangelove (need I say more?)

    Night of the Living Dead (don't laugh. It's got some heavy social commentary in there in addition to being a great zombie flick and the start of the genre)
  • Glock23ExpertGlock23Expert Member Posts: 1,031 ✭✭
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    Revenge of the Nerds
  • GUNFUNCOGUNFUNCO Member Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭
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    The Patriot

    Saving Private Ryan

    Schindler's List
  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
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    "Debbie Does Dallas" that has been edited to remove the nudity. It would only take up 30 seconds of class time.
  • DIRTYRATDIRTYRAT Member Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cool Hand Luke; with Newman,
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
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    quote:Originally posted by boeboe
    "Debbie Does Dallas" that has been edited to remove the nudity. It would only take up 30 seconds of class time.


    Why don't you just include Deep Throat While you are at it!
  • mondmond Member Posts: 6,458
    edited November -1
    hey, no one mentioned 'life of brian' monty python. that film is cool, can teach the religious aspect,humour,art & all in one.just gotta watch it twice or more!![:D]
  • CountryGunsmithCountryGunsmith Member Posts: 617 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anything with BOTH donkeys and midgets. Epitomizes the big guy vs little guy struggle without resorting to the Godzilla vs Mothra stereotype.
  • lazeruslazerus Member Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Brazil
    great movie, great at demonstrating the idiocy of a modern nanny state no nudity no violence very funny.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Wizard of Oz. As a child everyone probably seen it many times. Now as adults they will look at it differently..
  • bigdaddyjuniorbigdaddyjunior Member Posts: 11,233
    edited November -1
    Blade Runner- Rutger Hauer is great as the evil cyborg...all sorts of issues in this movie from power corrupts to man playing God, prejudice and who has the right to life etc...
  • drobsdrobs Member Posts: 22,620 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unforgiven (the un-cowboy movie)
    Apocalyps Now (required)
    Sling Blade
    Tender Mercies
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Maltese Falcon
    Ride the High Country
    The African Queen
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
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    The Navy used to use Twelve O'clock High in the Leadership, Management, Education Training course.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    True Lies, has it all for everyone! My favorite movie.
  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
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    Some interesting suggestions. Thanks for the input. BTW- This is a college course but given the socially (if not politically) conservative nature of the population, I really want to avoid R rated movies. One of the English profs had parents all over him last year because one of the assigned readings in a literature class featured frequent use of the "F word" and some students refused to read it. Parents (I thought these were adult students but trust me swarms of parents got involved) were all over the vice president for academics' office arguing and complaining about the course content. I have enough people mad at me, thank you very much.

    DWS- The point is to either illustrate filmmaking techniques or the social and political messages contained within the movies. I know that for some reason you get upset about symbolisim in art but that's part of what we do.
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  • bigdaddyjuniorbigdaddyjunior Member Posts: 11,233
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    quote:Originally posted by SaxonPig
    Some interesting suggestions. Thanks for the input. BTW- This is a college course but given the socially (if not politically) conservative nature of the population, I really want to avoid R rated movies. One of the English profs had parents all over him last year because one of the assigned readings in a literature class featured frequent use of the "F word" and some students refused to read it. Parents (I thought these were adult students but trust me swarms of parents got involved) were all over the vice president for academics' office arguing and complaining about the course content. I have enough people mad at me, thank you very much.

    DWS- The point is to either illustrate filmmaking techniques or the social and political messages contained within the movies. I know that for some reason you get upset about symbolisim in art but that's part of what we do.


    He just gets upset because they have never portrayed him accurately in any of the My Friend Flicka flicks.
  • BoomerangBoomerang Member Posts: 4,513
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    1. Enemy at the Gates (2001) (A great war movie and social commentary on just how great communism can be. Plus it will show your students that no matter how bad they think they may have had it, it could and has been much worse for others.)

    2. Pee-wee's Big Adventure (1985) (A truly absurd and funny comedy! No commentary here, just plain funny.)
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
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    quote: Can you say "Conservatives are stuck in the past and can only see in black and white until liberals enlighten them?" Reality movie?


    quote:never portrayed him accurately in any of the My Friend Flicka flicks. You suggesting they are showing the wrong end of the horse?


    Saxon, Bad Day a Black Rock would be on my list. Also Top Gun--The ultimate Seinfeld "Show about nothing"
  • bigt7mmbigt7mm Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭
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    "Little Big Man"

    "The Notebook"

    "The Ten Commandments"
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
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    Anything by Mel Brooks, specifically Blazing Saddles and History of the World, Part One.

    No Blade of Grass. Probably hard to find, a post-apocalyptic film, but without the Mad Max angle. A study in human nature under horribly adverse conditions. A mysterious blight strikes all grasses on the planet. Grasses include wheat, barley, maize, corn, sorghum, rice, just about everything but potatoes and carrots.

    Old Yeller.

    Any of John Wayne's later Westerns, including True Grit, Rooster Cogburn, Big Jake, The Shootist, The Cowboys.
  • DocDoc Member Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭
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    No, it's a state college but we have a lot of good Baptist kids whose families don't go for that sort of thing. It's my decision and the school would back me up but I don't think it's necessary to make them uncomfortable. There are plenty of movies that work and avoid the adult images.

    Bad enough they have to watch all those old B&W movies with no car chases or explosions.
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  • nomadictaonomadictao Member Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For a film with social commentary : Brazil...as Lazerus said, it very funny also.

    For a film for the sudents to cretique: Birth of a Nation. It shows what people thought about race in 1915. It also has some very absurd moments that turn out to be pretty funy now-a-days.
  • Queen of SwordsQueen of Swords Member Posts: 14,355
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    "Rebecca" -Laurence Olivier and Joan Fontaine are just about the most perfectly beautiful couple imaginable. Romance, suspense, and mystery. Also, Judith Anderson as Mrs. Danvers, the wicked servant who spawned a million copy-cats in films since.

    "Gone With The Wind" -need I say more?

    "The Lion In Winter" -Kate Hepburn as Eleanor or Aquitaine and Peter O'Toole as Henry, and a very young Sir Anthony Hopkins as Richard Lionheart. Not necessarilly historically accurate, but the roles are very juicy. Possibly the best dialogue ever in a film. If I could pick one role from one film, I would choose the role of Eleanor.
  • nomadictaonomadictao Member Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Quickdraw quote: RE: "Birth of a Nation" It was about the most technically advanced film of its day. The direction, story, acting were all top notch.
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