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what would happen if we pulled out of iraq ?

AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2006 in General Discussion
what would happen if america pulled out of iraq tommorow ? short term and long term......

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  • DancesWithSheepDancesWithSheep Member Posts: 12,938 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The earth would stop rotating on its axis. A California Condor will be sighted in Poughkeepsie. Gasoline prices will tumble to $3.40 a gallon. Pat Tillman will land at Ft. Bragg in one of those five Navy TBMs lost over the Bermuda Triangle in 1945. Zipperzap will be speechless. Remote Girl will run off with Cyclonus.
  • sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    I suspect that Iraq would become a part of Iran!
  • ElMuertoMonkeyElMuertoMonkey Member Posts: 12,898
    edited November -1
    If we pulled out tomorrow, Iraq would Balkanize into a Kurdish north and a Shi'ite south with both of them fighting the Sunnis for the middle.

    Longer term propsects would probably include Iran moving into the southern areas, Turkey occupying a "security zone" in the north, and Israel screaming bloody murder that the Iraqis are back on track to developing nuclear weapons in fifteen minutes that can strike anywhere in the world in under ten.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,663 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If we pull out of Iraq, civil war.
    If we stay in Iraq, civil war.
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if we pulled out, what would be the role of Zarqawi and the al-qaeda guys in the future government ?
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by AlbertLum
    if we pulled out, what would be the role of Zarqawi and the al-qaeda guys in the future government ?
    Zarqawi is JORDANIAN, not Iraqi.

    The Al Qa'eda terrorists are from other countries as well.

    IMHO, the Iraqis would take steps to get them out (once the civil war mentioned above is settled).
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If we pull out pre-mature....the outcome will be that we will never go overseas to fight another battle !! the politians will always use the pull out as an example. The only fighting will be on our own soil either with invaders or our own government.
    Abort Cuomo
  • haroldchrismeyerharoldchrismeyer Member Posts: 2,213
    edited November -1
    A lot more american men(and women)wouldn't have to die.
  • zr700zr700 Member Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    If we leave they could kill each other all day long, and it would not cost us soldiers or $$$. If our borders could get sealed we could fight them alot better here. I say get out and have a nuke test.
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  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    why arent the iraqis taking steps right now to get the terrorists out ?
  • nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Notice my first, and most hilarious, reply was deleted. Wonder why? The truth too much for some members and moderators to bear?
  • hughbetchahughbetcha Member Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It would be a case of geo-political coitus interruptus.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,298 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe the Iraqis are taking steps to get the terrorist out right now, except NBC is failing to report it. Funny how the Iraqis have had elections, formed a contitution, and establish a new army, but the media refers it them as a confused nation on its third government.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cindy Sheehan would be out of a job?[:D]
  • Old hickoryOld hickory Member Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We'd save $2 billion a week!!! Probably 30 american lives a week and about 40 permanent injuries a week. It will be like Nam. We knew we had to leave but we pissed around for 3 years and left anyway!
  • willdallas2006willdallas2006 Member Posts: 285 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    Notice my first, and most hilarious, reply was deleted. Wonder why? The truth too much for some members and moderators to bear?


    Everything gets deleted before I get a chance to read it.[:(!]
  • zipperzapzipperzap Member Posts: 25,057
    edited November -1
    quote:DancesWithSheep:
    Zipperzap will be speechless.

    Not likely, BUT Iran and Syria would probably
    roll through the Saudi & Kuwaiti oil fields -
    China and India would have all the oil they
    need and we'd have to get by on about 20%
    of what we need.

    The good news is that American Idol would still
    be on TV - providing you have a pedal powered
    generator, you'd still be able to watch it![:D]
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You would have about ten million whack-ball fanatic Islamists all looking for plane and boat tickets to the good old USA to continue trying to kill us all here.

    Better to kill them there where the desert soaks up the blood. Pull the troops back and nuke em'
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nyforester
    If we pull out pre-mature....the outcome will be that we will never go overseas to fight another battle !! the politians will always use the pull out as an example. The only fighting will be on our own soil either with invaders or our own government.
    That's the very same argument that was used to keep the troops in 'Nam, for a couple of years longer, just having them killed.

    It wasn't true then; isn't true now. It only applies when we SHOULDN'T be involved in war that is stupid, e.g., Iraq. [}:)]
  • HAIRYHAIRY Member Posts: 23,606
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
    Maybe the Iraqis are taking steps to get the terrorist out right now, except NBC is failing to report it. Funny how the Iraqis have had elections, formed a contitution, and establish a new army, but the media refers it them as a confused nation on its third government.
    Read Al Jazeera for a different perspective; it might surpirse you to see what that part of the world thinks about Iraq.
  • jimkanejimkane Member Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by hughbetcha
    It would be a case of geo-political coitus interruptus.


    those were my thoughts exactly, and as we all know coitus interruptus doesn't always work
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The country would rip itself apart, and we'd eventually have a new Saddam in charge, but it would be worse than it ever was with Saddam.

    I agree with zr700...we need to pull out and run a series of nuke tests.
  • AlbertLumAlbertLum Member Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HAIRY
    quote:Originally posted by Captplaid
    Read Al Jazeera for a different perspective; it might surpirse you to see what that part of the world thinks about Iraq.


    its always nice to get the terrorist perspective on america. what excatly does "that part of the world" think about america ? do they all speak with one voice ?
  • KYfatboyKYfatboy Member Posts: 859 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    what would happen if america pulled out of iraq tommorow ? short term and long term......

    nemesisenforcer
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    Posted - 05/30/2006 : 6:05:05 PM

    Hairy would * all over his keyboard at the prospect of a terrorist victory.

    And of course, that would be Bush's fault to.


    "Gimme a bottle of anything. And a glazed donut. . . to go."



    Edited by - nemesisenforcer on 05/30/2006 6:10:20 PM
    quote]Originally posted by willdallas2006
    quote:Originally posted by nemesisenforcer
    Notice my first, and most hilarious, reply was deleted. Wonder why? The truth too much for some members and moderators to bear?


    Everything gets deleted before I get a chance to read it.[:(!]
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  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have to think future.......not tomorrow,...... 20 years from now (or more). If we nuke Iraq now, you better take up speaking Chinese. They are the ones that will be the majority on US soil.
    Abort Cuomo
  • CJ7nvrstkCJ7nvrstk Member Posts: 678 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Full scale civil war IMHO.
  • Red223Red223 Member Posts: 7,946
    edited November -1
    We gave them Democracy and they would elect Saddam Hussein to be their first Democratic President.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    Well I tell ya one thing...bush wouldn't get re-elected
  • tacking1tacking1 Member Posts: 3,844
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
    You would have about ten million whack-ball fanatic Islamists all looking for plane and boat tickets to the good old USA to continue trying to kill us all here.

    Better to kill them there where the desert soaks up the blood. Pull the troops back and nuke em'


    LOL

    come on dude....we need them HERE on our turf. Gosh I got 9 million rounds of ammo stashed in a bunker under my carport. I got electronic survellience all around my perimeter. I have taught the wife how to aim dead center and not waste ammo. MY Assault rifle is all greased up and rarin to go. I got food enough to last 17 years and 3 months as long as we don't eat large.

    Now all I need is an enemy. These local hoodlums aren't nearly aggressive enough for the countermeasures that I have installed and the preparations that I have made.
  • scottm21166scottm21166 Member Posts: 20,723
    edited November -1
    we wouldn't get it pregnant?
  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Radical Islam will be able to show the Muslim world that western culture is as decadent as they, the radicals, have said it is. This well lead to a surge of volunteers, all eager to earn a place in Paradise, which will, in turn, lead to more and more attacks on the west. This radical upheaval in Muslim society is the goal of the Wahhabi branch of Sunni Islam who view ALL non-Wahhabi as the enemy of Islam and therefore forfeit. Their goal is world domination and the only power on earth capable of stopping it is the USA. If we pull out of Iraq, the Wahhabi will institute the same regime they did in Afghanistan (the Taliban are Wahhabi) and eventually the whole of the Middle East. So what, you might ask? So, they will have the technical resources of some of the brightest people in the world, the material resources to finance any project they choose, and the human resources to implement a "jihad" against the Christian world that will end our way of life. Impossible? Saddam was well on his way. He tested us in Kuwait and won. Sure, we kicked is butt out, and then bowed to international pressure to stop before we killed him. We tried to contain him, but he shot at our planes with impunity. Iran is now going to do the same thing, only this time, they'll use nuclear weapons. The Russians and Chinese will support Iran until it gets too hot (and too late), the European will offer olive branches and platitudes and the liberals in the US will see the chance to move back into power by promising the people there'll be no more fighting. We've an incredibly dangerous situation on our hands, and too many of us are focused on the price of gasoline.

    Pull out of Iraq, and we can kiss our free society goodbye.

    Clouder..
  • RocklobsterRocklobster Member Posts: 7,060
    edited November -1
    absolutely nothing.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,491 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We could suit up all the Mexican's in America now. Air drop them with supplies. Let them fight. Let them fight some more. Any that makes it back from Iraq, let them stay in America.
  • tacking1tacking1 Member Posts: 3,844
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by whiteclouder
    Radical Islam will be able to show the Muslim world that western culture is as decadent as they, the radicals, have said it is. This well lead to a surge of volunteers, all eager to earn a place in Paradise, which will, in turn, lead to more and more attacks on the west. This radical upheaval in Muslim society is the goal of the Wahhabi branch of Sunni Islam who view ALL non-Wahhabi as the enemy of Islam and therefore forfeit. Their goal is world domination and the only power on earth capable of stopping it is the USA. If we pull out of Iraq, the Wahhabi will institute the same regime they did in Afghanistan (the Taliban are Wahhabi) and eventually the whole of the Middle East. So what, you might ask? So, they will have the technical resources of some of the brightest people in the world, the material resources to finance any project they choose, and the human resources to implement a "jihad" against the Christian world that will end our way of life. Impossible? Saddam was well on his way. He tested us in Kuwait and won. Sure, we kicked is butt out, and then bowed to international pressure to stop before we killed him. We tried to contain him, but he shot at our planes with impunity. Iran is now going to do the same thing, only this time, they'll use nuclear weapons. The Russians and Chinese will support Iran until it gets too hot (and too late), the European will offer olive branches and platitudes and the liberals in the US will see the chance to move back into power by promising the people there'll be no more fighting. We've an incredibly dangerous situation on our hands, and too many of us are focused on the price of gasoline.

    Pull out of Iraq, and we can kiss our free society goodbye.

    Clouder..


    I don't know Chief...not so sure about the "doomsday" aspect, but I think the result would be less than pleasant.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i like select-fire's idea, basically conscript all able bodied ILLEGALS ...ooops i mean immigrants & send them to front lines...then they will earn & deserve citizenship & benefits ....dws....you just destroyed my fantasy of remote girl
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