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I talked to a gamewardon today and he said there has been a big jump in the number of copperhead bites this year here in Al. he said it probally due to the mild winter we had
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Rarely have I killed a snake on purpose. Spiders on the other hand....
If you live in the South you got to expect it, they're every where.
Well make sure you stay away from copper head road....[:D][;)]
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As I've posted before. I live about 8 miles from Copperhead road.
Used to date a girl who lived on it, back in High school. Have relatives that live on it.
No, not the Girl I dated. [:D]
stan lake (the one in the middle is my BIL, a little insane) has written books for kids to educate them..he speaks at churches and schools to help folks understand wildlife and that they have a place in the system
all the tats on his arm are wildlife tats...his wife is just as passionate
https://www.facebook.com/CatchingCreation/videos/1088192004599209/
Capt. is correct, bites from coral snakes are almost vanishingly rare. They burrow and they are out and about at night, so they are not frequently encountered, and generally seek to escape rather than bite, unless grabbed.
Personally I would not go barefoot in the Southeast (of course I am not 10 either [:(]), nor in the desert where there is much that is spiny in addition to the venomous things.
,,,,,,but there are always girly men
AH comments like that sure as hell won't win anybody over to your side either.
Coppers are not that plentiful until about 50 miles more south of me but they are aggressive here. Wife treated an 8 y/o girl who got bit just walking by a little grass bush. Transferred to St. Louis and is ok.
I suppose we are lucky in this regard.
We don't seem to have venomous snakes and spiders in abundance in southern new Jersey (I am at - adjacent to the confluence of the Delaware river and the rancoacas creek)...
We do get garter snake and the occasional milk or rather snake in the yard or at the gun club...
As far as the yard goes the ferret (Mr peepers) is like riki tiki tavi reborn - he kills them if given the chance (I have only witnessed this once)...
We do worry about muskrats and raccoons and foxs...
The small "cats of prey" (bobcat - lynx - etc) while rare are here and I do worry about the dog interacting with one (I suspect that they avoid people and dogs and seem to be active at night)...
We did have a bear in downtown Delran NJ a few years ago but that's an anomaly...
I don't envy your killer snake and spider and scorpion encounters.
But I do enjoy reading about them.
Mike
I'm with Mike on this one. Sort of like reading about the Man-Eaters of Kumaon (Jim Corbett), I'd rather read about 'them' than see one in the wild.
Perhaps it's because I've experienced territorial Copperheads in Trials sections in oHIo that just got 'a bit more miffed' when they came back after being moved. Or the Rattlesnakes that got stirred up along side the trail in Arkansas during an ISDT reunion ride that struck at the bikes.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
Fear of snakes seems to be almost a genetic trait. Fortunately, some of us don't have that gene and appreciate snakes. I never kill one unless it is a direct an immediate threat - and is poisonous, of course. I consider all non-poisonous ones friends.
It is actually a learned fear Rocky, as you say it can be such a powerful fear it almost seems in born. Being a learned fear it can be unlearned. I have worked with several psychologists over the years to help people get past the fear. The results can be pretty emotional for all, and it does not happen over night.
Mr. P, At last something we agree on! Washington Vipers.
I suppose we are lucky in this regard.
We don't seem to have venomous snakes and spiders in abundance in southern new Jersey (I am at - adjacent to the confluence of the Delaware river and the rancoacas creek)...
We do get garter snake and the occasional milk or rather snake in the yard or at the gun club...
As far as the yard goes the ferret (Mr peepers) is like riki tiki tavi reborn - he kills them if given the chance (I have only witnessed this once)... about the same in ne ohio
We do worry about muskrats and raccoons and foxs...
The small "cats of prey" (bobcat - lynx - etc) while rare are here and I do worry about the dog interacting with one (I suspect that they avoid people and dogs and seem to be active at night)...
We did have a bear in downtown Delran NJ a few years ago but that's an anomaly...
I don't envy your killer snake and spider and scorpion encounters.
But I do enjoy reading about them.
Mike
I caught this rascal under the lid of my propane tank.
Non venomous snakes good, venomous snakes dead.
most, AND I MEAN MOST people, cant tell the difference
can you????
quote:Originally posted by pricklypear
Non venomous snakes good, venomous snakes dead.
most, AND I MEAN MOST people, cant tell the difference
can you????
You betcha. Gopher snakes, bull snakes, racers, king snakes and garter snakes are all welcome on our place. We don't have copper heads or moccasins out here but I can still recognize them in a heart beat. The buzzers though get left for the buzzards, no apologies.
Capt. Woodrow F. Call
Venomous = gets relocated
I don't kill any of them [:)]
quote:Originally posted by pricklypear
Non venomous snakes good, venomous snakes dead.
most, AND I MEAN MOST people, cant tell the difference
can you????
Absolutely, I can.
Do I still have to live with the title "girly man", Captain Planet?[:X]
Non-venomous = slither as they please
Venomous = gets relocated
I don't kill any of them [:)]
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quote:Originally posted by riflemike
quote:Originally posted by pricklypear
Non venomous snakes good, venomous snakes dead.
most, AND I MEAN MOST people, cant tell the difference
can you????
Absolutely, I can.
Do I still have to live with the title "girly man", Captain Planet?[:X]
Hmmm, passionate about wildlife he says. Well I spend hundreds of hours staying out in the back country and sleeping on the ground to work on wildlife habitat enhancement, and I still kill rattle snakes.
Girly men unite![:D]
these guys are a passionate about wildlife.....3 or 4 were in Iraq... the one in the middle is my BIL....studied herpetology..they really try to educate folks on snakes,,,,,,but there are always girly men
stan lake (the one in the middle is my BIL, a little insane) has written books for kids to educate them..he speaks at churches and schools to help folks understand wildlife and that they have a place in the system
all the tats on his arm are wildlife tats...his wife is just as passionate
https://www.facebook.com/CatchingCreation/videos/1088192004599209/
With all the ones I have around my house along with a few cats and foxes, you'r think I wouldn't have rodents at my place but my "new mower" (10 years old when I got it but had less than 100hrs on it and the guy kept it in the garage, washed and waxed it after each use) had all the wires chewed up over the winter, so did my geo tracker, and have evidence of them in my camper. No mice pack rats caught 3 this week in the tracker.
THe snakes aren't doing what they supposed to so they are terminated with extreme prejudice. Our winter only lasted 2 days this year pretty much had the windows down or AC on rest of the year. Speckled King snakes are left alone and black snakes that don't startle me are left alone.
Sorry boys, they have coppers and some rattlers around here and if I see one, that's all I need.
Coppers are not that plentiful until about 50 miles more south of me but they are aggressive here. Wife treated an 8 y/o girl who got bit just walking by a little grass bush. Transferred to St. Louis and is ok.
Around here we have mostly moccasins, some coppers but only seen 2 or 3 rattlers in the last 10 years.
The copperheads are pretty shy and docile, nearly grabbed one last year, yelled cussed, jumped about 10ft straight up but he was slithering away post haste when I saw him. Moccasins are a whole nother story, they'd just as soon bite you as look at you, have had them come after me.
The last moccasin that startled me got eight 230gr Hornady XTP from a 1911 before I realized what happened.
Funny story, was checking my hog trap in house shoes and shorts walked by a mud hole to the trap was looking for snakes. got to the trap and had 3 in it, was on the phone with my neighbor (since I didn't feel like cleaning them all by myself that night) when I walked back by the hole less than 5 mins later it came from the leaves towards the hole and me. I immediatly exclaimed "CRAP" (spelled with a S), By the time the word "CRAP" came out, I had already drawn the gun, emptied the gun and the snake was in 9 pieces. Got great expansion though, all the bullets measured .80"-1.1" after.
Non-venomous = slither as they please
Venomous = gets relocated
I don't kill any of them [:)]
That seems like you're taking a real risk. I read one time that most men that are bitten by venomous snakes were bitten because they were attempting to catch them. [:0]
I caught this rascal under the lid of my propane tank.
You have some big stones there Allen.
quote:Originally posted by nutfinn
Non-venomous = slither as they please
Venomous = gets relocated
I don't kill any of them [:)]
That seems like you're taking a real risk. I read one time that most men that are bitten by venomous snakes were bitten because they were attempting to catch them. [:0]
There is a very strong correlation between alcohol intake and snakebite as well. Beyond that, the little actual data we have suggests relocated animals tend not to survive well.
> S.E. Virginia
the snakes here will never be used for medical advances anyway, they will not be missed by anyone