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My Son Is Hottttt

woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 23,478 ✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
Seems His Daughter Went For A Sports Physical to Play Softball This Spring
Some of the Questions The Cincinnatus NY Family Health Network
Dr Was Asking
Are there Weapons /Guns
if Yes,, How Many? And If You know What are they ?
Ammo ,,,,Yes Or No If Yes, Do You think There Is an Excessive Amount.
And On And On.......
Now As My Son States I Have Nothing to Hide But,,, He Has Told the Children If They get asked Any Questions Such As These Not to Give Any Info
They Pressured this Girl Until She Broke Down and Answered
This Crap Needs To Stop

Comments

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,244 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would be too.
    RLTW

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Please let us know how his discussion with the Doctor and the facility manager goes.

    This crap will stop only when people make it stop.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,498 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When my Doctor in Illinois starting asking me those type questions I looked him in the eye and said "Seriously, what does that have to do with my sinus infection ??

    He typed in LEO and that was the end of it.....
  • tajjntajjn Member Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My doctor asked me that two years ago, and she has known me for at least 10 years, she said that she had to ask for a newly affiliated hospital, and figured that I had an arsenal. I asked her what she thought an arsenal was and she said 6 to 8 guns, I told her that I had about 7 arsenals and I thought she would drop her clipboard. [:D]
  • woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 23,478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    EDIT ....quote:Originally posted by Flying Clay Disk
    My only question is; why is the last part in green font and not red????

    I'd have gotten up and walked out! I don't care what the situation is.

    It's never happened to me, but if it ever does that's exactly what I will do, without another word spoken.
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    I'd find out if there is a way to file suit for the "pressuring her" part of this fiasco. Hit them where they live. In the wallet.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Refusing to say whether or not you have firearms in your home is a yes.

    What's the downside of being less than truthful to a question that doesn't pertain to your medical condition? [;)]
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've never been asked about guns by my Dr. At his office now.
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    Refusing to say whether or not you have firearms in your home is a yes.

    What's the downside of being less than truthful to a question that doesn't pertain to your medical condition? [;)]


    What's the down side of wearing a yellow Star of David on your coat?

    It doesn't pertain to how warm the coat is.
  • beneteaubeneteau Member Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My doctor knows that I carry; but, I leave it in my car and do not take it in his office---wearing only an empty holster which he and his staff have seen many times. He has told me that he didn't care if I carry inside his office.
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  • RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    Refusing to say whether or not you have firearms in your home is a yes.

    What's the downside of being less than truthful to a question that doesn't pertain to your medical condition? [;)]


    What's the down side of wearing a yellow Star of David on your coat?

    It doesn't pertain to how warm the coat is.




    yep
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This was foretold as going to be part of the Obama care fine print.

    Everyone dismissed it.

    It would be very interesting to find out why these questions were asked.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    My doctor hunts birds with me, she has only asked to borrow ammo.
    W.D.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    Never been asked.

    If asked I'd either lie or tell the truth and then find a new doctor. Not sure, be something of a coin toss.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    Refusing to say whether or not you have firearms in your home is a yes.

    What's the downside of being less than truthful to a question that doesn't pertain to your medical condition? [;)]


    Looks like others thought this worth a reply. Whats the downside about replying NO when you have "stuff". That's lying and of course "criminal" and criminalizing EVERYTHING makes folks KEEP QUITE. Like having and arsenal? What's that. What ever someone wants it to be.

    Now,, MAYBE .223,, illegal to own some? Guess you need to wait and see,, glad I got rid of mine years ago !!![:D]
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 25,387 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    plain BS. none of there business plain and simple
    I would be visiting them call a lawyer about pressuring / threating the kid ? and even call the NRA ( see if they will stand up as they promise although NY is lost )
    I will guess a new " government or state requirement " unannounced to the public
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,038 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
    plain BS. none of there business plain and simple
    I would be visiting them call a lawyer about pressuring / threating the kid ? and even call the NRA ( see if they will stand up as they promise although NY is lost )
    I will guess a new " government or state requirement " unannounced to the public




    They are making it their business.
    Answer "yes" and it goes into the data banks.

    Then 18 months later, you go to a doctor to get some Valiums prescribed, because you just lost your wife in a car wreck and you
    are having anxiety attacks.

    Now you WILL surrender your guns, you "mentally unstable" person.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    Refusing to say whether or not you have firearms in your home is a yes.

    What's the downside of being less than truthful to a question that doesn't pertain to your medical condition? [;)]


    What's the down side of wearing a yellow Star of David on your coat?

    It doesn't pertain to how warm the coat is.


    It may make some feel good to bow up and raise hell on the spot, but that medical clerk going over the questionnaire has zero input on their AMA driven policies.

    There's a time and place for dealing with political issues and it's not when I'm sitting in a doctors office or hospital seeking treatment. It's a completely BS database question, so it would evoke a completely BS response from me - which also provides the benefit of helping render that database bogus.

    How you address this issue on down the road is what's important, not taking a stance with the lowest paid employee in the building.
  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cowering down and lying about gun ownership versus standing tall and telling the truth....

    Hmmmm, let me think....

    Easy. Truth.
  • nordnord Member Posts: 6,106
    edited November -1
    Perhaps a deeply personal question in return without answering about firearms. I mean DEEPLY PERSONAL with the intent of prying too deeply into the life or privacy of another. I expect there would be a degree of shock and probably a "none of your business" at the very least... Which is exactly what I'd be fishing for.

    Or dead silence when asked about firearm ownership. Even with repeated attempts, no response. At some point the questioner will have to move on. You will have neither lied nor given a truthful answer. Very frustrating to those with long noses.
  • Laredo LeftyLaredo Lefty Member Posts: 13,451 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by MG1890
    Cowering down and lying about gun ownership versus standing tall and telling the truth....

    Hmmmm, let me think....

    Easy. Truth.



    Just the opposite. Giving in to their questioning and providing info they are NOT entitled to is cowardly. Your not under oath, and that line of questioning has nothing to do with your healthcare.

    If you were seeking treatment for a bullet wound, then you might be able to make the argument that that kind of questioning makes sense.

    I will simply lie (and be proud in the process) if asked gun questions by my health provider.

    The doctor I had up until a couple years ago is a fellow gun collector, so we talked about guns all the time. That was different.
  • MG1890MG1890 Member Posts: 4,460 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'd suggest a simple refusal to answer, if you don't want to tell the truth.
  • woodshed87woodshed87 Member Posts: 23,478 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    She is the Top Contender For Valedictorian
    And My Hunting Buddy
    I Gotta hand it to her She Won't Lie For No one
    But I Don't think They Should Pressure Kids And put them In This Position
    It Also Makes it Tough Because My other Daughter In law is A Nurse At this Facility[:(]
  • SCOUT5SCOUT5 Member Posts: 16,181 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by Ditch-Runner
    plain BS. none of there business plain and simple
    I would be visiting them call a lawyer about pressuring / threating the kid ? and even call the NRA ( see if they will stand up as they promise although NY is lost )
    I will guess a new " government or state requirement " unannounced to the public




    They are making it their business.
    Answer "yes" and it goes into the data banks.

    Then 18 months later, you go to a doctor to get some Valiums prescribed, because you just lost your wife in a car wreck and you
    are having anxiety attacks.

    Now you WILL surrender your guns, you "mentally unstable" person.




    Exactly

    In the statistics on child safety homes with firearms are a consideration as children can be involved in accidents. That is a fact. This is where this got started. Just like asking parents if they had car seats, safety locks on cabinets that held poison chemicals etc., gun storage was a topic of safety education. Pretty simple and straight forward.

    However like all things people with agendas carry things to extremes. What Woody is describing is pointed questions with a driven agenda behind them. That type of data collection has to have a reason and it is not child safety or safety education. Those are data base collection questions. If she answered someone now has, or will have, that information entered into a data base that has nothing to do with his granddaughter's healthcare.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    quote:Originally posted by Txs
    Refusing to say whether or not you have firearms in your home is a yes.

    What's the downside of being less than truthful to a question that doesn't pertain to your medical condition? [;)]


    What's the down side of wearing a yellow Star of David on your coat?

    It doesn't pertain to how warm the coat is.


    It may make some feel good to bow up and raise hell on the spot, but that medical clerk going over the questionnaire has zero input on their AMA driven policies.

    There's a time and place for dealing with political issues and it's not when I'm sitting in a doctors office or hospital seeking treatment. It's a completely BS database question, so it would evoke a completely BS response from me - which also provides the benefit of helping render that database bogus.

    How you address this issue on down the road is what's important, not taking a stance with the lowest paid employee in the building.

    A very smart response IMHO.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have yet to be asked that question and go to see three Doctors every month. One for cancer, one for my back and one for diabetes. Guess I am lucky that all three are gun owners and shoot and know that I am as well. If they asked, it would be redundant anyway, since they knew the answer.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never been asked with either of the kids or MrsFun. My Doctors know what I do and want to talk about guns or "have you been to the new club/range...." etc. I asked one of my high school buddies who is a pediatrician and head of staff at his hospital if he is required to ask those sorts of questions, Nope.
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    I imagine this sort of thing is specific to certain medical specialties, hospitals, clinics and insurers.

    As the AARP is rabidly anti-gun, anti-Second Amendment, I wonder how much influence they are trying to leverage? Especially in cases where insurance AARP sponsors is involved?

    I would expect that if a particular doctor asks such questions it will most likely be because there are children in a home, or elderly people. I wouldn't expect to be asked of childless adults in good health and the prime of life.
  • montanajoemontanajoe Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 60,265 ******
    edited November -1
    Man this is BS.
    It is none of their business
    It is not any way relevant to why she was there
    To keep pressuring her for the answer they want,**^^#$&%%%
    So wrong,,[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!]
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,696 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Liberalism.
    This doc doesn't even realize that he is a tool of the libs.

    As Michael Savage says, "Liberalism is a mental disorder."
    The CDC has proclaimed firearms deaths as a public health menace.
    Bunch of Libs.
  • retroxler58retroxler58 Member Posts: 32,693 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I seem to recall a boating accident I was in...
  • Big Sky RedneckBig Sky Redneck Member Posts: 19,752 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Disarming is the reason for asking. Just like disarming soldiers diagnosed with PTSD, there are a million reasons a doctor can put in paper to declare a person unfit for owning a gun(s). Having a bad day? Feelin a little stressed? Mentally unfit for gun ownership! Had a doctor explain this to me, if you answer yes and the doctor is anti gun your gun owning days could be numbered. One call to the authorities claiming you "could" be a danger to yourself or others and thats it. A doctors "opinion" on mental health is valued in the LEO community. Now if a doctor calls in on you, even if bogus and the leos don't react and god forbid something happens imagine the outcry. Obama Care is setting the stage to disarm us through medical reasons based on a doctors opinion and in todays netvous nellie mindset the doctors opinion will stand and you lose. If you do not know and personaly trust your doctor admiting to gun ownership can spell disaster for you.
  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    had to fill out "new patient" forms for the wife the other day. "the question" was there but we just left it blank. Nothing was ever said.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,312 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My Doctor knows I own firearms, he's always wanting to trade with me and we have worked out a deal a few times [:D]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In my opinion, thats like asking how much money is in my banking account....Thats like asking about my 401k....thats like asking me the balance of my mortgage...How many vehicles I own...."I don't know" would be my answer...[:o)]
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I read an article the other day that said surveys show gun ownership in the US is at an all time low, but records show that gun purchases in this country are at an all time high. They say the reason for this must be that a small percentage of the population is purchasing this all time record number of firearms.

    I suppose it never crossed their minds that people are being less than truthful in these surveys because they aren't comfortable with having their information being entered in databases.
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