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20mm

IAMAHUSKERIAMAHUSKER Member Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
Is it illegal to be in the possession of a few rounds of 20mm? Got a friend who inherited a bunch of stuff and that was in some of the boxes.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Depends on the loading(s). TP and AP no problem, Tracer? HE and I there is a limit on how much you have (IIRC it's 1/4oz total explosive). If the rounds have had their bullets inerted, than they are treated like a TP round.

    Which 20mm? The 3 most common ones here in the states are the 20x102 (Vulcan), 20x110RB (Rebated Base) (Orlikon), and the 20x110 Hispano-Suzza). Not as common is the 20mm Lattie anti-tank round.

    pardon any spelling errors.
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  • IAMAHUSKERIAMAHUSKER Member Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Honestly, I am not sure what the heck he has. I will take a picture, to show you. Thanks for your reply man.
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  • IAMAHUSKERIAMAHUSKER Member Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know it is 20mm because it says it on the bullets but nothing else.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This might help, the blue bullet is the 20x102, the black bullet is a 20mm Hispano, the empty case is a NUE 20mm Hispano, than 2 unfired 20mm Orelikon, than the brown bullet is a 20x138B (WW-2 German).

    Cartridges007.jpg
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  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    This might help, the blue bullet is the 20x102, the black bullet is a 20mm Hispano, the empty case is a NUE 20mm Hispano, than 2 unfired 20mm Orelikon, than the brown bullet is a 20x138B (WW-2 German).

    Cartridges007.jpg


    Inquiring minds want to know, what are the 3 rounds on the right?
    Half of the lives they tell about me aren't true.
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  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FWIW, the HE version (if loaded, and not rendered inert) is a Destructive Device. Basically holds an explosive charge, and a fuze. Law on possessing THAT, well.... think Hand Grenade, OK? Any markings on projectile?
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  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    I'm sure I don't need to say this but I will, DO NOT POST INCRIMINATING PICTURES! as I'm sure illegal possession of munitions is not condoned by this board or its owners, not to mention it would be stupid to admit guilt and provide proof!


    CYA
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    KY Plunger Operator, those are either TP or inert, nothing illegal in my collection.


    Cublover
    458 Hubel Express dummy
    27mm x 145 B, but the projo is a fake
    2 bore Hubel Express dummy
    The Hubel Express rounds are from Hubel458, who has the "12ga From Hell" thread on the reloading forum
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  • mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    KY Plunger Operator...



    [:D]
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  • quickmajikquickmajik Member Posts: 15,576 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You could not drag me behind the rifle that shot the round third from the right! What did they hunt with that? Dragons? Windmills?
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  • kyplumberkyplumber Member Posts: 11,111
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    KY Plunger Operator, those are either TP or inert, nothing illegal in my collection.


    Cublover
    458 Hubel Express dummy
    27mm x 145 B, but the projo is a fake
    2 bore Hubel Express dummy
    The Hubel Express rounds are from Hubel458, who has the "12ga From Hell" thread on the reloading forum



    I wasn't talking to you feinstein I was talking to the guy who DOESN'T know what he has. Where is the common sense?!
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by quickmajik
    You could not drag me behind the rifle that shot the round third from the right! What did they hunt with that? Dragons? Windmills?


    IIRC Ed uses it on whitetail deer (we grow em big in Michigan [:D] ).
    Why would you think it would be bad to shoot? It's only a little bigger than the 458 Lott, which is just a little bigger than the 458 Win Mag (which is 3 steps bigger than the 45-70).
    Now, if you want big, look at the 2 rounds in the lower left (12ga From Hell). I've shoulder fired a few of those, and they wern't bad to shoot. For compairison purposes, the straight wall round with wooden bullet in the 2nd row up is a 45-70 shot load, the 3 to the right of that are 44 Mag shot loads, and the black ones on the bottom are the 12ga Agulia "mini" shotshells.
    Cartridges021.jpg
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  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    IAMAHUSKER,

    From the ATF website:

    NOTE: Missiles (projectiles) less than caliber 20mm generally are not large enough to accommodate
    more than one-quarter ounce of explosive or incendiary material. In the case of 20mm high explosive
    (HE) or high explosive incendiary (HEI) projectiles, it is imperative to determine the model designation
    of the specific item as some 20mm HE and HEI projectiles contain more than one-quarter ounce of
    explosive or incendiary material and are destructive devices. Other 20mm HE and HEI projectiles do not
    contain more than one-quarter ounce of explosive and are not destructive devices. Therefore, it is
    incumbent upon persons interested in 20mm HE and HEI ammunition to determine the amount of
    explosives contained in a specific projectile. HE and HEI missiles (projectiles) larger than 20mm
    generally contain more than one-quarter ounce of explosive or incendiary material and are destructive
    devices.

    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/chapter2.pdf


    Anzio Ironworks 20mm rifle
    34538Anzio_Ironworks_20mm_Rifle.jpg
    http://www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm


    .223 Rem/ .338 Lapua/ .50 BMG/ 20mm Vulcan
    34538223_338Lapua_50BMG_20mmVulcan.jpg


    Best.
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  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    Cartridges007.jpg...but does the one on the right come with a hollowpoint load? [:D]
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