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Bin Laden seen in Kandahar: Report

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
Laden seen in Kandahar: Report SLAMABAD: Terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden has been spotted in Kandahar, the Taliban's southern bastion, a media report here said on Saturday.Bin Laden was in the city mainly to "boost the morale of the people who have been braving the carpet bombing (by the US) for the last couple of days," the Pakistan Observer quoted "reliable sources" as saying.It said Laden, who is hiding in one of the "longest caves", addressed a gathering of his "Arab elite guard and the local residents http://www.timesofindia.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=1642948170

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  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    If we get Bin Laden it will be by a stroke of luck! Afganistan is inundated with miles of caves. If we send in ground troops it will take years to get him that is if he is still in country.When we do send in ground troops, i expect to see a lot of ambushes like the one in Mogadishu that Bin Laden orchestraded.Lone isolated airstrips are perfect for suicide gunmen. This time Bush had better send in heavy armor to back up the troops and not be scared to use it anytime-anywhere.
  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about dynamite. just use it to blow all of the cave openings. send in a bit o gas, and wait a few years before opening.in the mean time,change the land scape at ground level. I mean level the ground...I remember hunting chipmunks, they are crafty little buggers....one will pop up long enough to get your attention away from his brother, then duck back into his hole just as you start to get a bead on him. The trick is to keep trained on the one. I found that if I put a rock over the hole of the decoy, it limmited his choice of apearences, pretty soon he would pop up nearer his buddy. See, their holes are all connected. sooner or later you can locate all entrances, cause they get currios enough to show them selves. I once got two with one shot,as they both came out of the same hole....
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • hamiltonhamilton Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about fuel air bombs... http://www.hrw.org/press/2000/02/chech0215b.htm How FAEs Work A typical fuel air explosive device consists of a container of fuel and two separate explosive charges. After the munition is dropped or fired, the first explosive charge bursts open the container at a predetermined height and disperses the fuel in a cloud that mixes with atmospheric oxygen (the size of the cloud varies with the size of the munition). The cloud of fuel flows around objects and into structures. The second charge then detonates the cloud, creating a massive blast wave. (For a demonstration of a FAE explosion, see the U.S. Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division, China Lake, California, page at "http://www.nawcwpns.navy.mil/clmf/faeseq.html".) The blast wave destroys unreinforced buildings and equipment and kills and injures personnel. The antipersonnel effect of the blast wave is more severe in foxholes, on personnel with body armor, and in enclosed spaces such as caves, buildings, and bunkers.
  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guess what...BOOM...I remember hearing about these a few years back...This link will open your eyes...WOW..you can run, but you just can't hide!!!
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    I ran into a website a couple days ago that stated that FAE's are also a device that would be used to decam an area that has an anthrax disaster. I don't know the sorted details of of the theory is but it should kill a lot of spores.This weapon has a way of doing things the right way! It would have to be dead on tho because it doesn't have a large blast area.If it hit a cave where Laden was hiding out it would suck his useless * right out of it. Since these weapons are detonated 30 feet in the air [generally] it produces a kind of real bad back draft so to speak.
  • ghotie_thumperghotie_thumper Member Posts: 1,561 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I saw a few demo's of these Fae's (or something real similar)just prior to getting out of the Corps. Sitting on a ridge top watching a jet swoop into a valley, the valley shortly looked like it was covered in fog. Right behind the first jet, a second seemed to come in dropping an incendiary device. Quite a firestorm. We were told the "mist" was capable of penetrating the smallest of openings and I can't recall but the temp generated was pretty warm. The stuff made napalm look kind.
  • TxsTxs Member Posts: 17,809 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The FAE's we are hearing about being used in Afghanistan are the large type, weighing 7-8 tons each and requiring an aircraft the size of a C-130 for deployment. The most decorated Brit SAS trooper, Andy McNabb, related in his book, "Bravo Two-Zero", that during Desert Storm one of their teams witnessed a night detonation of one of these weapons from 50-75 miles away and reported it as a nuke detonation.In Vietnam the U.S. tried numerous ways of defeating the VC tunnel systems. One of these was to pump in fuel vapor, allowing it to spread throughout the system before detonating the fumes. Even this wasn't effective, due to the airtight connecting passgeways between different levels. After the war, VC vets have said the only weapon that was actually effective against their tunnels were B-52 ARC LIGHT missions. The overlapping heavy detonations set up an earthquake effect that collapsed even their deepest complexes. We weren't aware of this at the time and therefore didn't take full advantage of these weapons. This is possibly why we're seeing so much use of the B-52's in Afghanistan.[This message has been edited by Txs (edited 11-06-2001).]
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