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Do you use Ethanol?

TeamblueTeamblue Member Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
President Bush was in South Dakota yesterday speaking at an Ethanol plant giving it his support as a renewable energy source and a means to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. How many of you use ethanol blended fuel or even have it available in your areas?699

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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We usually have it during the winter, because of thermal inversions over the city, trapped here by the mountains on the eastern edge of town. Did not have it this winter for some reason. Works fine in most things, but some fuel injectors don't like it.
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  • lrarmsxlrarmsx Member Posts: 791 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've used Ethanol for the last decade plus. Rarely use anything else. I've never had any problems. I've never had a gas line freeze up in the winter either. I've never had to add Heat or anything like that. It works fine in all of my vehicles.
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Currently I do not use ethanol as I had some injector problems with my VW Jetta. It is available in my area and I suppose I should give it another shot as it has been a few years since I used it.
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  • duckhunterduckhunter Member Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I HAVE USED ETHANOL BLENDED FUEL FOR YEARS. 5-10% BETTER GAS MILEAGE. PLUGS LAST LONGER. NO GAS LINE FREEZE UP. ENGINES LAST LONGER. WE HAVE NOTHING HERE WITH LESS THAN 120,000 MILES AND SOME CARS WITH OVER 300,000 MILES. ALSO YOU NEED TO CHANGE OIL LESS OFTEN BECAUSE THE ENGINES BURN CLEANER. KEEP USING, OR TRY IT , IT WORKS.
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  • Miss. CreantMiss. Creant Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use it in everything from my lawn mower to my wifes new car. Been using it for a good ten years. Higher octane and cheaper.

    Never had any problems at all.
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  • Old hickoryOld hickory Member Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Please use ethanol if it works for you. It helps us farmers in the midwest. We can make alot of money if we SELL our land, but to actually farm it and make a living is near impossible. Yes, ethanol prevents gas-line freeze.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not available here in "West-by-Zeus" Virginia. Tried it in the bikes when we went to SD in 2000. None of them ran worth a damn. The truck our friend drove digested it pretty well though. Don't have any long term results.

    Mudge the honest

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    Edited by - mudge on 04/25/2002 14:20:37

    Edited by - mudge on 04/25/2002 14:21:35
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A fellow at the breakfast counter this morning was complaining about Bush promoting ethanol in South Dakota because he claimed ethanol is just another goverment bailout welfare program for greedy farmers. And to quote this fine misinformed opinionated dawn diner "Those farmers don't need anymore of our money just look at the prices they charge at the super market, damn Republican b@*#%!^s." Instead of getting into a discussion with a brick wall I just listened to him for morning entertainment.

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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    gunpaq, You have got a lot less temper than I do!! I would have jumped in the guys cheerios!!! He was probably some liberal townie who wouldn't know dogs*^& from applebutter! One of these days they'll get hungry and then us well to do rich farmers will have to feed them(if we want too)! GHD
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  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    I live in Northen New Mexico and we have a blend of that every where here.
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  • MercuryMercury Member Posts: 7,830 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    gunpaq,
    The guy is partially correct, sadly. :(

    Something like 75% of ALL farmer subsidies go to huge multi-billion dollar corporations. :(

    This money was meant for the FAMILY FARMER, not some millionaires!

    Merc (used to be a farmer, but hated being poor!)



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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok, this thread got me thinking, so as I was traveling between offices today, I stopped and filled up with a 10% ethanol blend. We'll see if I can tell the difference after a few tank fulls....
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  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Use it in everything and have since it came out. I have never had a problem, even in my motorcycle.
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think its available in this area yet (Birmingham, AL). Sounds like a miracle potion - burns cleaner, gets better mileage, AND costs less.

    We only have a few special years with our children in which they desire our time, attention, and love. After that time is over, it is gone forever, and we will be the ones that desire their time, attention, and love. Make those few, short years count -
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Alcohol's fer drinkin', not fer internal combustion engines.

    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.

    Edited by - Lowrider on 04/26/2002 01:16:47
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  • steveamy4steveamy4 Member Posts: 46 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    se it all the time. Never had a problem with it.
    Steveamy4, (formerly steveamy3)(formerly steveamy2)(formerly steveamy)
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I didn't use ethanol in my pickup (1999 Toyota) until last year because it wasn't available where I lived until I moved back to Iowa. Since then I've been using STRICTLY ethanol-blended fuel. It's been nothing but good in my pickup. Dad's been hauling generators all over the midwest with full-size Chevy pickups since I was a wee boy. He uses ethanol-blended fuel constantly. Those trucks just go and go and go. It's good for the economy, it's good for the environment, it's good for your vehicle and it's good for the farmer.

    Idiots like the one previously mentioned are the reason why the stinking liberals run around saying that conservatives want to poison the water and the air and ruin the environment. It sounds like that moron in the restaurant would support anything regardless of the issue so long as it gave him a chance to spite the farmer.

    SSG idsman75, U.S. ARMY
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  • S&W ManS&W Man Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use it in everything and prefer it. No need for gas line antifreeze, runs better, you may have to adjust the system some, have less maintaince problems. Only engine I have that prefers sometning else if the 52 Farmall Cub, but with lead additive put in it works fine. Corse it requires lead additive in ANY unleaded gas it burns.

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  • Miss. CreantMiss. Creant Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mudge
    It works fine in my H-D and all the people I know who have bikes use it.
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  • TeamblueTeamblue Member Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My vehicles run flawlessly on Ethanol and I will use nothing else. I like the octane boost over non-ethanol regular unleaded (89 vs. 87 typically) and it is always priced lower in my state.
    In using it I support the American farmer (one of which is my Dad) and promote cleaner air. This is a win/win proposition in my mind and I appreciate the President's public support for it.
    My grandad had a bumper sticker on his farm truck with a Navy destoyer on it and the caption: "Ethanol doesn't need an escort". That is something we should all think about.

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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There was a short period many years back when it was available in NH and it seemed to work at least as well as pure petroleum. But then it was dropped & I've not seen it at any pumps here or anywhere I've traveled. Then again, I don't get out much . . . . Is it primarily a Western (or at least Midwestern) thing?
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    I agree with the above. This is a renewable resource, and makes us less reliant on the TowelHeads!!!!Look man with this post I am back up to member status after being demoted to Junior Member!

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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My eyes were blurry for a few days afterward so I gave it up.
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I use ethanol blend whenever I see it. The problem is you only seem to see it in the midwest mostly. I have never seen it here in Kentucky.
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  • aby80aby80 Member Posts: 245 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No and No
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    You're going to hear that it is a method to get votes from the farmers! Hey, there's only about 1% of the population that are farmers! It's not just for the Midwest. We can grow corn here in the east too! The largest row-crop farm east of the Mississippi is in NC! 45000 acres at one location!! I wish I had that guys seed business!! That's 15000 bags of seed!! Anyway we had some ethanol blends here in VA a few years back but they've disappeared. I never had a problem with ethanol in my vehicles and would welcome it back! Anything we can do to keep the towelheads from getting another AMERICAN dollar is a good deal!! Wish I was 18 and they'd let me take the 25-06 and snipe!! Ain't much difference in a towelhead and a groundhog!! The groundhog is only trying to live. The towelhead wants to kill!!! GHD
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    How would a person go about trying to make it available in a certain area?

    We only have a few special years with our children in which they desire our time, attention, and love. After that time is over, it is gone forever, and we will be the ones that desire their time, attention, and love. Make those few, short years count -
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    They are going to require it soon here in Kalifornia. From what
    we are being told it requires more energy to make than it saves.
    I have long heard that it gave less gas mileage & the worst part was that it causes failure of rubber gas lines & connections. I have
    never used it so I can only go by what I have read.
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    I think that's what my dentist gave me for pain the last time I was there.........or was that Novonal?

    -Charlie

    "It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com

    Edited by - njretcop on 04/28/2002 15:54:40
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  • cowdoccowdoc Member Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    gruntled i think you are being feed a line of bs i have run it for years.. since it was first available here never ever had a problem with it ...you maybe thinking of when they used methanol which is different than ethanol.
    i can tell you that if you could run a engine on straight ethanol the engine would outlast many car or pickup bodies it burns so clean that you
    cant see it burn
    i can get e85 here also but my car is not set up to run that but would like to try some. other wise i have two diesel pickups i have made my own bio diesel (a 20% blend ) they run great more power better economy
    the exhaust smelled like it does when you are cooking popcorn in hot oil
    i heard a guy from commifornia bad mouthing ethanol on rush limbugh say that ADM controlls over 40% of ethanol production ...they maybe did at first but now famer owned coop's produce most of it now he also was bitching about that it would cost to much to ship to the west coast... looks to me like it would be a hell of a lot cheaper that boating oil from the mid east.
    all in all if famers produce 10%-20% of the fuel this country needs that would take a pretty good chunk out of the crowned prince Abdula's rearend which would would make me happy.
    also i produce alot of sunflowers in SD which is #2 in production in the USA right behind ND which amounts to billions of lbs of sunflowers which would avg 45% oil that alone would make a fair amount of fuel.
    also just to mention FARMERS here are building a 20 million gal ethanol plant 50 miles from me, near Pierre SD.



    I know where my beef comes from do you know where yours comes from??....mexico,austrailia, the UK........?????? dont know do you, demand country of origin labling for your food!!!

    I dont give my guns without somebody getting hurt!

    Edited by - cowdoc on 04/28/2002 15:37:35

    Edited by - cowdoc on 04/28/2002 17:02:26
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    cowdoc, Glad to see another gun loving farmer here!! Just came in from planting some more of that evil ethanol growing weed and turned on the forum to see what's happening. Will be planting more when most of you guys wake up tomorrow!! Screwed up today!! Forgot to put the Buckmark in the tractor and could have shot a couple groundhogs!! You get rusty over winter! GHD
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  • cowdoccowdoc Member Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ghd where you located at?
    probably be a week or so here before i plant any of that evil ethanol producing weed ground is way to cold for corn yet its is taking three weeks for the spring wheat to come up sofar. heck the rain yesterday turned to snow after dinner.
    doc


    I dont give my guns without somebody getting hurt!
    I know where my beef comes from.do you know where yours comes from???....mexico,austraila,the UK,south america...???? dont know do you, demand country of origin labling for your food!!!!
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