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Global Warming
Iconoclast
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Though I heard on the news that the Global warming conference was canceled because of the snow there in DC. Find that to be a little funny.
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god dang global warming[B)]
are any major companies poised to sue the federal government when all this turns out to be bogus?
i was talking to a guy that works at a natural gas refinery and he told me the government is putting a huge tax on them starting next year because of the amount of carbon they release into the air, said the price on flammable gases will almost double. so they are using bogus science to create a scare and tax the crap out of critical industries, in the mean time people are forced to pay the higher prices on such frivolous things such as HEAT and TRANSPORTATION, creating further financial woes on an already stressed economy.
i hope when this is all said and done with those responsible for creating these feel good taxes fry for what they are about to do to the people of this country
As of 7:30 a.m. Monday, the National Weather Service's Anchorage office listed a temperature of 3 degrees at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport. Much of the Mat-Su was below zero, with Palmer at 4 degrees below, Wasilla at 11 below and Talkeetna at 13 below.
The Kenai Peninsula and points south hosted Southcentral's warmest spots, including a relatively balmy 13 degrees in Seward, with 18 recorded in Homer and 21 in Kodiak.
Rebecca Duell, a forecaster at the Weather Service's office in Anchorage, said an average low for Sunday night in Anchorage was 16 degrees, but temperatures at the airport fell to 2 below zero -- just 3 degrees above the record low recorded for the date but still warmer than other parts of town.
"South Anchorage had a bit of wind, and they didn't get as cold as East Anchorage," Duell said.
Across the region, Duell said, Southcentral's cold was the result of three factors: cold air, calm winds and clear skies.
"Basically, what we have is this really cold Arctic air mass over us and that's really what's driving it," Duell said. "We've had all three of those factors line up over a lot of those areas."
Most areas, including the Mat-Su region, reported minimal winds and only patchy clouds over the weekend -- both factors that helped send the mercury down.
"One of the reasons we've been so cold recently is that we've been fairly calm, and you notice a temperature swing in the areas that haven't seen much wind -- they get much, much colder," Duell said. "Most of the areas are clear, and areas like the Susitna Valley that were clear overnight get really, really cold."
According to the NWS forecast for the week, skies should be clear through Tuesday, with daytime high temperatures hovering between 5 and 15 degrees before rising amid Wednesday clouds, with a chance of snow, to the 20-degree belt by Thursday and Friday.
Nighttime lows over the same period will include dips below zero -- including 10 to 15 below in East Anchorage on Tuesday.
Duell said the uptick in the forecast's temperatures reflects a change in air masses expected later this week, as well as increases in local cloud cover.
"Definitely more typical temperatures for this time of year, so it won't be quite up to average by the end," Duell said. "(By the) middle to the end of the week, we'll start getting back to that normal temperature range there."
In the Interior, Fairbanks experienced an overnight low Sunday of 22 degrees below zero. According to the Fairbanks NWS office's forecast, residents of the Golden Heart City can expect daytime highs up to zero degrees this week, with evening lows as deep as 25 degrees below on Tuesday and Friday.
http://www.adn.com/article/20151116/southcentral-alaska-chill-persist-least-another-day-forecasters-say
-10 below 0 this morning in Minnesota --
This global warming is starting to get to me ----
Lee
But Oregon had its driest year ever last year. So far the Ski areas have not opened up cause there is no Snow. We had some a few weeks ago but it has warmed up enough that almost all of it is now gone.
Wonder if it is cause I put the Harley into winter Storage for Insurance.
Same spot of the house!
The study's findings are the consensus findings of over 6000 climate scientists from around the world.
Then the politicians got hold of it and tried to tweak it this way or that way but I think the best way to think about it is as a professional opinion on which 6000 climate scientists were able to agree.
Large numbers of scientists have been wrong before, but not so often. Therefore I take them seriously when they present their two major findings: 1) climate warming over the past 50 years is real, and 2) there is at least 95% chance that it is human-caused.
With a few exceptions, I have lived in the same small area all my life. Virtually every day since 6/1 we've had the sort of heat and humidity I last experienced on the Gulf Coast, with visibility limited to a few miles. No rain, not even thunderstorms. Crops dying, lawns brown (sort of a good thing there - don't have to mow!). It is scary. Look at the weather patterns in Europe - 100 year floods. I don't know if it is pollution, too many people, nuclear tests or what, but I have no doubt the human race has managed to screw up the climate big time.
Second though, to be fair- I don't cite the United States' brutal winter as evidence either way. Europe has had a VERY mild winter- I was just in Austria and the daffodils are already blooming.
Personally I attribute it all to the sun... global warming, global cooling... solution is to destroy or otherwise block the sun. No more sunburn, no more warming, no more nasty UV rays... what say you? [;)]
http://folk.uio.no/nathan/web/statement.html
Ho-hum...
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cleaning-up-air-pollution-may-strengthen-global-warming/
"efforts worldwide to clean up the air may cause an increase in warming" So, we're actually warming the planet with our efforts.
"Pollution in the atmosphere is... helping to cool the climate, masking some of the global warming that's occurred so far" [?][?] So, wait, are our efforts warming the planet or cooling it? I can't tell.
"eliminating the human emission of aerosols...would virtually ensure that the planet will warm beyond the most stringent climate targets outlined in the Paris climate agreement." [?][?][?] So, clean up is like really really bad?
"the Arctic region, northern Europe, Norway, the northern U.S.... is also quite sensitive to the changes in aerosols in Asia."[?][?] So, it's a regional problem?
"the Arctic?the most rapidly warming region on the planet" [?][?][?] Ok, it's regional NOT global.
"...about a third of all the warming that occurred over land areas over the past 50 years was masked?temporarily covered up, in other words?by aerosol pollution." Still no idea as to whether there has been warming or cooling. Does this mean the global temperature is staying the same? WTH does "masked warming" mean? The "other words" do not clarify.
Here are some "in other words": no one in the scientific community has the foggiest clue as to what is going on, what causes what or how anything affects anything else. But one thing seems certain: it's a REGIONAL issue, not a global one.
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
Just this morning I was reading in Romans chap. 8 and there,
it is written for our admonition, in these times of uncertainty, the following;
Rom 8
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature (created) waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
It's no secret that we are dying even know as we speak concerning the creation.
But our hope is not what we can do but, what, God has done and can do for US.
When we fret over the times and the seasons, the climate and temperatures on the earth, we do so, because these are areas of our life we can not control, and so we see the futility of life and the living of it when, these ominous signs begin to give signs of failing.
Yet, there is a creator who created all of it, who overshadows these things that awe us.
And as I (we) focus our eyes upon him, He who has subjected the creation in hope also, can calm the spirit.
What we see today is the result of man abusing the creation, and yes it's going to fail;
But our hope is not in what we see, but in what is unseen whith the human eye.
Yet what we do see, is the revelation of the prophecy of the good book, coming to pass, before our eyes.
And still, men remain in unbelief.
Just sharing my thoughts with you.
"The great object is that every man.... everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry
What you are seeing is localized. I see a cooler than normal summer (averaging about 4 degrees below normal). Today, at about 11:00 AM, in the middle of August - it is 67 degrees !!!!! My worry is global cooling
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
The best information is that we are presently in a warm spot between two periods of glaciers. The most recent dip in temperature, the "Little Ice Age," lasted about 1500 to 1850.
http://www.emporia.edu/earthsci/student/shobe1/littleic.htm
http://www.vehiclechoice.org/climate/cutler.html
As far as global warming and the "destruction" of the ozone layer goes, remember that one small volcanic eruption spews more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than all of mankind has over the entire course of history. The earth is huge. Earth processes take place on a grand (global?) scale and usually involve fantastic amounts of energy. We as a species may be able to kill ourselves off, but we don't pose a threat to the earth as a whole.
Veritas morsum, autem veritas est verus
WOOF.
BTW, one possible side effect of the 'greenhouse' theory is a new ICE AGE!!!
Quod principi placuit legis habet vigorem.Semper Fidelis
As was mentioned already, the Earth has seen numerous periods of warming up and cooling down well before there were such things as humans walking it's surface. Pretty dang difficult to prove any direct cause and effect between human activity and global climatic changes, doubt that we ever will have that capability.
When I was in college in the early seventies (Earth Science major), the prevailing theory was that we were in for a major ice-age, and there was nothing we could do about it. Wasn't long, and they did a 180, deciding that we were in for a warm up, instead. Which, if either, is correct? Hell if I know.
Does anybody remember a book by Paul Erlich titled "The Population Bomb"? It was required reading for one of my courses. The author warned of a coming catastrophe on a global scale. He claimed to have done an in depth study of human poulation growth and concluded that if the Earth's total population were to ever reach some particular level (can't remember just what that figure was, but we passed it quite some years back, probably about half what we are at right now), that there would be mass starvation and a collapse of civilization as we know it. This would be due to our inability to feed all those people. I guess he was wrong, huh?
The point here, is, he was a respected member of the scientific community, and he was just SO sure of his conclusions, and look at how wrong he was. Who's to say that all the current theories aren't just as wrong?
Iconoclast, It does seem pretty clear that we are in a warming trend, hell I am going antelope hunting next week and it is likely to be near 100! The real question is whether it is part of a cycle and will reverse at some point or if it is indeed human mediated and not likely to be reversed. If it keeps going, in a few thousand years most of Florida will be under the ocean, so it can't be all bad!
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand
doc
I dont give my guns without somebody getting hurt!