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This is the necessary authorization for the emergency issuance of drugs and supplies without all the patient information, typed labels, and foolishness required by law before prescribing or providing these items.

http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/eua/

Someone is worried, or exceptionally cautious.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    I posted this on a couple of boards:http://www.bvs.cz/full_auto.html
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    So far the U.S.Gov.has spent $11.4 million searching for Flight 370.I wonder why they are investing so much interest in a missing flight from another country that supposedly crashed in the ocean. Are they having doubts?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/malaysian-jet-search-has-cost-u-s-11-4-million-n88781
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    Russian aircraft shot down despite `President-S' systemDEBKAfile Exclusive Report April 13, 2016, 9:05 AM


    The Russian Defense Ministry announced on April 12 "the crash of a Russian Mi-28H attack helicopter near the city of Homs" the previous night. The two pilots were killed in the crash, and their bodies were recovered by Russian special forces who transferred them to Hmeimim airbase in northern Syria. The ministry asserted that "the helicopter was not shot down" but DEBKAfile's intelligence and aviation sources doubt that claim.

    The helicopter that crashed in Homs was the fourth Russian-made military aircraft to be shot down during the last 30 days by advanced shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles possessed by the
    Nusra Front, ISIS and other groups of fighters.

    The speculation that terrorist organizations in Syria, and apparently in Iraq, possess such missiles capable of overcoming the defenses of Russian aircraft became reality when the Mi-28H helicopter was shot down on April 11. The aircraft is equipped with the most advanced defensive system of its kind, the President-S, which is resistant to active and passive jamming.

    The system also known as the L370-5 includes a warning system installed on four external points of every aircraft, radar and command and control system that can identify incoming shoulder-fired missiles and cause them to deviate from their paths.

    The defense system protects the helicopter from previous generations of such missiles, such as the Strela-2 and Strela-3. But it remains vulnerable to more advanced missiles and that is the reason why the rebels and terror groups have been able to shoot down four Russian-made aircraft in Syria.

    On March 12, a MIG-21 of the Syrian air force was shot down with two shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles that locked onto the heat signature of the plane. Fighters from the Jaysh al-Nasr rebel group operating in the village of Kafr Nabudah, in the area of the city of Hama, downed the plane and then killed the pilots after they ejected and reached the ground.

    Another Syrian air force plane, a Sukhoi 22, was shot down on April 5 near Aleppo using a single MANPADS (Man-portable air-defense systems) missile, apparently an advanced one, fired by fighters from Al Qaeda affiliate the Nusra Front. One of the pilots was killed on the ground, while the other, Khaled Saeed, was taken prisoner.

    In yet another recent downing of a Russian-made military aircraft, ISIS announced on April 11 that it had shot down a Sukhoi 22 that had taken off from al-Dumayr Airport in the eastern suburbs of Damascus. The fighters used an SA-7 Strela missile with an infrared heat-seeking warhead, considered relatively out of date.

    Western intelligence services have no idea how many shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles are in the arsenals of Syrian rebel groups and terrorist organizations.

    There is no doubt that those weapons pose a major and immediate threat to commercial aviation in Israel and throughout the Middle East.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    "Few Americans find anything amiss in the notion that it is the
    president's duty to solve all large national problems and to unite
    us all in the service of a higher calling. The vision of the president as national guardian and redeemer is so ubiquitous that it goes unnoticed."

    Is that vision of the presidency appropriate for a self-governing
    republic? Is it compatible with limited, constitutional government?
    The book you're holding argues that it is not. Americans' unconfined
    conception of presidential responsibility is the source of much of
    our political woe and some of the gravest threats to our liberties.

    If the public expects the president to deal with all national problems,physical or spiritual, then the president will seek-or seize-thepower necessary to handle that responsibility. We're right to fear the growth of presidential power. But the Imperial Presidency is the price of making the office the focus of our national hopes and dreams.

    http://www.cato.org/cult-of-the-presidency/
    Free book essentially.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    Abandons Huge, International Market


    In a move almost no one saw coming, General Motors, one of the Big 3 automakers, has announced a withdrawn from the European car market. The automaker made a deal with French automaker Peugeot, for over $2 billion that will sell off two of its European brands, Opel and Vauxhall, as well as multiple factories and engineering center.

    The announcement was met with shock as Europe is the third largest market in the world behind China and the U.S. General Motors has had a presence in Europe since it bought a majority stake in German automaker Opel nearly 90 years ago.

    Find out more about why G.M. said they were leaving the huge, international market and what it means for the future of automakers in America by clicking here.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    Published Date: 2014-03-15 07:21:23
    Subject: PRO/AH/EDR> Bovine illness/death - USA: poss. drug related
    Archive Number: 20140315.2334484

    BOVINE ILLNESS/DEATH - USA: POSSIBLY DRUG RELATED
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    A ProMED-mail post
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    Date: Wed 12 Mar 2014
    Source: Feedstuffs [edited]
    http://feedstuffs.com/story-texas-tech-scientist-raises-concern-using-beta-agonists-45-109864


    Use of beta-agonists in cattle production has received considerable national attention, and now, Texas Tech University veterinary epidemiologist Guy Loneragan has found that although there are significant societal benefits to the practice, an increase in death loss of cattle raises questions about welfare implications of its use.

    In a peer-reviewed article published [12 Mar 2014] in PLOS ONE, Loneragan, professor of food safety and public health in Texas Tech's College of Agricultural Sciences & Natural Resources, adds to this ongoing national dialogue.

    "Beta-agonists improve the efficiency of beef production, and this improvement provides important societal benefits," Loneragan said. "The beta-agonists approved by the US Food & Drug Administration (FDA) for use in cattle increase muscle growth and may reduce the amount of fat the cattle accumulate," he said. "This means cattle convert more of the feed it eats into beef, and it does this more efficiently."

    The article is co-authored by Daniel Thomson and Morgan Scott of Kansas State University and is titled "Increased Mortality in Groups of Cattle Administered the B-adrenergic Agonists Ractopamine Hydrochloride & Zilpaterol Hydrochloride." The manuscript is freely available at http://dx.plos.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0091177.

    With the use of beta-agonists, cattle require less feed and less water to produce the same amount of beef than if no beta-agonists were used. Less land would be used to grow the crops used to feed the animals and, therefore, less fuel to produce the same amount of beef. The improvement in the efficiency of production has meaningful societal benefits, the announcement said.

    "However, through our extensive analysis, we found that the incidence of death among cattle administered beta-agonists was 75-90 percent greater than cattle not administered the beta-agonists," Loneragan said. "This increase in death loss raises critical animal welfare questions. We believe an inclusive dialogue is needed to explore the use of animal drugs solely to improve performance, yet have no offsetting health benefits for the animals to which they are administered. This is particularly needed for those drugs that appear to adversely impact animal welfare, such as beta-agonists."

    Even with this difference in mortality, the number of overall deaths reported in the paper was quite low and similar to industry average death losses, regardless of cause, according to Elanco Animal Health, which manufactures ractopamine [Optaflexx].

    Both Elanco and Merck Animal Health, manufacturer of zilpaterol [Zilmax], noted that their products have been evaluated and approved by the Food & Drug Administration and other regulatory authorities.

    Elanco further pointed out that ongoing and continuous monitoring has been in place for the past decade to identify any potential adverse events to feeding ractopamine to cattle and any potential adverse events are reported to FDA and investigated appropriately. Merck added that "only a well-designed clinical study, in a real world setting, coupled with analysis of data by 3rd-party industry experts, can thoroughly confirm the safety profile and performance of a product." Merck explained that the new study was "based on observational information and we disagree with them. Using observational analyses where cattle are not randomized and where rigorous scientific procedures are not utilized, is not a respected scientific method to rigorously evaluate the safety and efficacy of any product."

    "We certainly need to better understand the manner in which animals fed beta-agonist die at the feedlot and work out how to balance the societal benefits of beta-agonist use with societal expectations concerning the welfare of animals raised for food," Loneragan said.

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    Date: Thu 13 Mar 2014
    Source: Reuters [edited]
    http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/03/12/zilmax-merck-study-idINL2N0M92J820140312


    The number of US cattle deaths that may be linked to the Merck & Co Inc feed additive Zilmax are much higher than the figures reported by the drug company to the federal government, according to a research study published on Wednesday [12 Mar 2014].

    The findings by researchers from Texas Tech University and Kansas State University show that more than 3800 cattle in 10 feedlots that were fed Zilmax died in 2011 and 2012, with between 40 percent and 50 percent of the deaths likely attributable to Zilmax.

    The numbers reported in the study, which was published in the scientific journal PLOS ONE, would indicate a larger death toll than Reuters found late last year [2013] in a review of all deaths reported to the US Food and Drug Administration by Merck since Zilmax was introduced in 2007. Drug makers are required to report deaths and other adverse events associated with their drugs -- in this case based largely on what cattle and feedlot owners have told the company.

    The Reuters review of federal records showed Merck reported 285 cattle had died unexpectedly or were destroyed in the United States after being fed Zilmax during the 6 years of Zilmax sales in the US.

    Merck said it was confident in the "safety and performance" of Zilmax and criticized the methods used in the study. The findings were "based on observational information and we disagree with them," the company said in a statement. "Using observational analyses where cattle are not randomized and where rigorous scientific procedures are not utilized, is not a respected scientific method to rigorously evaluate the safety and efficacy of any product," Merck said.

    The study could add to concerns about the safety of the drug, which has not been available in the US and Canada since Merck last August [2013] temporarily suspended sales after reports of cattle suffering lameness and mobility problems.

    It could also fuel debate about whether there is enough regulatory oversight of feed supplements made from a class of drugs called beta-agonists. The FDA said it will review the new research data and add them to the agency's body of knowledge regarding Zilmax. The agency, which has deemed both drugs safe for animals and humans, can ask drug companies to make changes to product labels if it detects safety concerns.

    The beef industry has used Zilmax and other beta-agonist drugs to bolster its bottom line for nearly a decade by creating heavier cattle. Zilmax can add up to 30 pounds [13.6 kg] of meat to a 1300-pound [590 kg] market steer.

    Feedlots provided the data on cattle that were fed with Zilmax to the researchers and asked them to analyze it.

    Death rates
    The largest population of cattle reviewed by the researchers was a grouping of 722 704 animals in 2011-12 from 9 different US feedlots. Of 637 339 that were fed Zilmax, 0.53 percent died prior to slaughter, according to the report. That is well above a 0.3 percent death rate among the 85 365 cattle that were fed neither Zilmax nor a rival beta-agonist, Optaflexx.

    A separate study of 149 636 cattle from one feedlot in those same years showed that 83 865 animals fed Zilmax had a 0.48 percent chance of dying before going to the slaughterhouse, according to the report. That compares to a 0.26 percent death rate among the 65 771 cattle that were fed neither drug.

    The researchers reported that cattle fed with Eli Lilly & Co's Optaflexx showed a mortality rate of 0.35 percent among 39 890 cattle. That compares to a 0.18 percent death rate among 39 281 cattle fed neither drug. The Optaflexx data was based on animals at 4 cattle-feeding companies a few years earlier.

    Both drugs "are most likely causally associated with increased cumulative incidence, incidence rate, and hazard of death when they are administered in accordance with the FDA-approved label directions," the study said. However, the researchers did warn that it is difficult to definitively establish a causal relationship between Zilmax and increased mortality because of the "observational nature" of the data. The study of Optaflexx use was not specifically focused on animal mortality, the researchers noted. Observational studies collect data on events observed in the field, as compared to randomized clinical trials, which use control groups to study the effects of a drug and are generally regarded as more rigorous.

    "We do not believe the data is causally associated," Lilly's Elanco Animal Health unit said in a statement.

    One factor that elevated the mortality of the group of cattle fed Optaflexx was the number of times the cattle were fed per day, Elanco said. But after adjustments to the feeding schedules the problem was eliminated, the company said.

    Guy Loneragan, an author of the report and a food safety professor at Texas Tech, sits on an advisory board for Elanco, which provided seed funding for the study.

    Merck is working to reintroduce Zilmax in the US and Canada, but meat packers and others have been reluctant to resume using it.

    Ty Lawrence, an associate professor of animal science at West Texas A&M University and a consultant for Merck, said at an industry meeting in Texas last month [February 2014] that data from controlled studies supported drug company claims that beta-agonists are safe.

    Loneragan told Reuters that Merck may not reliably receive Zilmax-related death reports from its customers, who fatten up cattle prior to slaughter, because the feeders may not always recognize that the animals' deaths may be related to Zilmax.

    "It's taken a huge amount of observation to start to piece together some of these side effects, or adverse drug events if you will," he said.

    [Byline: Tom Polansek, PJ Huffstutter]

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    [Zilpaterol (Zilmax) and ractopamine (Optaflexx) are both beta-agonists directing the body to be more efficient in its feed conversion and thereby adding more muscle.

    Although both drugs are approved by the US Food & Drug Administration (FDA), the issue of cattle deaths related to these products is not new. There have been numerous reports of issues of deaths, lameness, and other health effects, but not necessarily a study such as this one.

    The controversy over the animal deaths resulted in Merck withdrawing zilpaterol from the market in August 2013. It may or may not be a temporary withdrawal. It is noteworthy that it was a withdrawal, not a recall. In other words, product that was bought prior to the withdrawal remains available for use. Furthermore, if the product is withdrawn then it may be subject to being compounded.

    However, there are many markets outside the US that have banned meat with zilpaterol. This may be an incentive for not using the product.

    These drugs (zilpaterol, ractopamne, and clenbuterol) are all in the same class (beta-agonists) with similar effects but each has a slightly different mode of action. While zilpaterol, and ractopamine are beta agonists they have not yet been shown to have the human health effects that clenbuterol does.

    The drug companies refute the study as being observational but the comment: "only a well-designed clinical study, in a real world setting, coupled with analysis of data by 3rd-party industry experts, can thoroughly confirm the safety profile and performance of a product" seems rather disingenuous. Having a 3rd party analyze results seems reasonable, but to include industry seems like a way of skewing the results.

    Both sides of the controversy have good points, none of which will be resolved as of this writing. The controversy, the health effects on the animals, the possible animal welfare issues, and the increase in marketable beef for less forage and water will not likely be resolved anytime soon. We can expect to see more studies this subject. - Mod.TG

    A HealthMap/ProMED-mail map can be accessed at: http://healthmap.org/promed/p/106.]
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    big noise in sky..finally located and watched a B2 Spirit stealth bomber heading west ...lower altitude not leaving a vapor trail...can't remember when i have seen one of these.....
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    West Virginia bill allows truck weight enforcers to carry firearmsA West Virginia bill introduced earlier this year would give officers who enforce truck weight limits the authority to carry handguns as an increased safety measure. SB256, introduced by Sen. William Wooton (D-Beckley), is in the Senate judiciary committee. A similar bill (HB4311) introduced in the House by Rep. Virginia Mahan (D-Green Sulphur Springs) is in the House finance committee.Cameron Lewis, director of the state's weights enforcement division, says legislation to arm officers is long overdue. "Times have changed," Lewis said. "We are concerned for the officers safety. Our officers handle everything from stolen trucks to illegal immigrants and we are the only enforcement division not armed."
    If you want my guns you will have to kill me first. I was born free and to take that from me you better be ready to fight.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    I wonder how many of us have given our children firearms! I know I have, just like my parents did for me.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_re_us/student_arsenal[:0][:0]
    The kid might be a moron, but that does not make the mom a criminal
    Don
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    Just looking around, it's interesting to see how far we've come, how much has changed just recently, and not for the good either. Seems like no matter where you look there are signs everywhere.

    People talking about gun control, rights being infringed upon, economic deterioration, growing government control and influence, anger and political dissatisfaction, the list just goes on and on.

    In my short 49 (soon to be 50) years on this planet I am unable to remember a time when things were this gloomy. Frankly, I never really thought I would see things like how they are now in my lifetime. Used to be you woke up and each day was pretty much the same as the one before it more or less. There weren't all these dramatic and sweeping developments like there are now.

    Oh, there's change going on alright, but not for the better from where I sit. Seems like as each day or month goes by things seem to become more dire. I never thought I'd see the day where the first waking thought each morning was "I wonder what has happened now??? When I was sleeping." I just never thought it would be like that.

    I started this post with the statement 'how far we've come'...perhaps I should have more correctly said 'how far we've gone' (as a country).

    I just never thought I would see that.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    Are the Anxious Less Sensitive?

    By RICK NAUERT PHD Senior News Editor

    Reviewed by John M. Grohol, Psy.D. on December 21, 2011

    Anxious individuals are commonly characterized as being easily threatened and more sensitive than their counterparts. But a new study measuring brain activity challenges this perception as researchers found anxious individuals may not be sensitive enough.

    Researchers from Tel Aviv University used an electroencephalograph (EEG) to measure brain activity as study participants were shown images designed to induce fear and anxiety.

    EEG recordings of the neuronal activity that represents deep processing of these stimuli showed that the anxious group was actually less stimulated by the images than the non-anxious group.

    The results of the study were recently published in Biological Psychology.

    The discovery that anxious study participants weren't shown to be as physiologically sensitive to subtle changes in their environment as less fearful individuals, surprised the investigators, says Tahl Frenkel, a doctoral candidate and study leader.

    She suggested that anxious people could have a deficit in their threat evaluation capabilities - necessary for effective decision-making and fear regulation - leading to an under-reaction to subtle threatening stimuli.

    Non-anxious individuals seem to have a subconscious "early warning system," allowing them to prepare for evolving threats. Essentially, anxious people are "surprised" by fearful stimuli that non-anxious individuals have already subconsciously noticed, analyzed, and evaluated.

    For a more detailed analysis of both behavioral and neural reactions to fear-inducing stimuli, the researchers drew participants from a group of 240 undergraduate students at the university. Investigators then identified the 10 percent "most anxious" individuals and 10 percent "least anxious" individuals to participate in the final study.

    In the first part of their study, the researchers measured behavioral responses to fear-inducing stimuli. A set of pictures, featuring a person looking progressively more fearful on a scale of 1-100, was shown to the participants.

    When shown the sequence of pictures, anxious people were quicker to respond to the fear in the subject's face. They identified a face as being "fearful" at a rating of only 32, while non-anxious people did not describe the same face as fearful until it reached a rating of 39.

    However, when the investigators measured the participants' brain waves by EEG while they were being shown the photographs, a different picture began to emerge.

    From this assessment, researchers discovered that non-anxious individuals completed an in-depth processing of fear-inducing stimuli that informed their behavioral response, whereas anxious individuals did not.

    In other words, non-anxious individuals were able to unconsciously notice subtle changes in the environment before they consciously recognize the threat.

    "The EEG results tell us that what looks like hypersensitivity on a behavioral level is in fact the anxious person's attempt to compensate for a deficit in the sensitivity of their perception," she explains.
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    So I was in physics lab just the other day and we were testing the stored energy of a recurve and a compound bow. One of the questions required a field test the instructor said in this day in age we are no longer alowed to go out into a football field and shoot bows because people might get the wrong perception. What a bunch of poop.
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    American Psychological Association warns against diagnosing without first examining the patient.

    Standard professional practice guideline.

    But for them to come out and announce a concern that is going on.....priceless.

    The comments are not decreasing, and are getting louder and more common.



    We'll see !
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    A favorite science fiction theme is a man who wakes up in a world that

    seems to be the one he's familiar with, but isn't. Slowly he realizes he is in a

    parallel universe, where everything is almost what he's used to, but not

    quite. He's on Planet Bizarro. Sometimes I feel like that. Sometimes I feel that the world I knew has

    been exchanged for another world.

    World War II never happened. In the world I grew up in, World War II was the greatest catastrophe in

    history. We learned the hard way that it is dangerous to ignore its lessons.

    In my world, Hitler outlined his violent plans in speeches, but we didn't

    listen. He scrapped the treaty that ended World War I, but we paid no

    attention. And we did nothing when he built up his military, reoccupied

    the Rhineland, seized part of Czechoslovakia, and then took the rest.

    Finally he invaded Poland, and by then it was too late to stop him without

    a war that cost over 40 million lives.

    But on Planet Bizarro, all that never happened. We never learned that we

    can't appease violent megalomaniacs. So we try to appease Saddam Hussein.

    We try not to "overreact" when terrorists strike. Then we are shocked - shocked! - when it doesn't work.

    Pieces of paper keep us safe.

    In the world I grew up in, we knew that the police keep us safe from

    violent criminals at home, and our military keep us safe from violent enemies

    abroad. We didn't enjoy getting a traffic ticket, but we realized this was

    the price of traffic safety. We surely didn't enjoy getting a draft

    notice, but we realized this was the price of freedom. And we honored those who

    paid it. We knew that police enforce laws, and our military defend the

    Constitution. Yet we never confused pieces of paper with the brave men and women who

    protect us. But on Planet Bizarro, the kids who yelled "Pigs off the campus!" are now

    professors. Lawyers make up the large majority of politicians. They tell

    us that police are dangerous Neanderthals, and it's laws and court orders

    that keep us safe. They tell us that our military are ignorant boors, and it's

    treaties and U.N. meetings that protect us.

    We never watched the League of Nations descend into irrelevance as it

    failed to stop Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo. We never saw international agreements

    trashed by sneering tyrants. We never saw politicians waving pieces of

    paper they claimed would bring "peace in our time," but instead brought the bloodiest of wars.

    So we don't complain when the U.N. descends into irrelevance as it fails

    to act against Iraq or North Korea. We don't object when academics and

    liberal pundits tell us to rely on pieces of paper to protect us. On Planet

    Bizarro, the middle of the 20th century vanished into a black hole.

    Moral decisions are made by majority vote.

    In the world I grew up in, moral decisions were made by the individual,

    with the guidance of religion. We used the vote to decide political questions,

    not moral ones. We had the lesson of Germany, where the Nazi regime was

    installed by democratic means and where genocidal tyranny was enshrined in

    law and ratified by courts.

    We studied the Dred Scott decision, in which the U.S. Supreme Court ruled

    that a slave was not free even if his master took him to a state where

    slavery was illegal, and that freed slaves could never be citizens. So we

    knew that a court ruling by majority vote, and a nation using democratic processes,

    could still be immoral.

    And until a few centuries ago, a majority of people believed the earth is flat.

    But on Planet Bizarro, those events never happened, so we na?vely put our

    trust in majorities. We duck the decision on what to do about Iraq, and

    fob it off onto the U.N. That's the same U.N. where Libya chairs the Human

    Rights Commission and Iraq heads the Disarmament Conference. Yes, that

    U.N., the Bizarro U.N.

    High taxes help the economy.

    In the world I grew up in, we knew that under President Kennedy, about

    half the federal budget was spent on defense. And he proposed a tax cut to

    stimulate the economy. When some complained that the tax cut would benefit

    mainly the rich, Kennedy remarked, "A rising tide raises all boats."

    But on Planet Bizarro, we spend only about 18 percent of the federal

    budget on defense, and even after 9/11, many complain it's too much. When a tax

    cut is proposed to help the economy, many object that we should raise taxes

    instead. If high taxes were good for the economy, the pre-Civil War South would

    have been an economic giant. After all, what is slavery if not a 100 percent tax rate?

    Nobody ever heard of John Kennedy on Planet Bizarro. More defense spending

    is seen as a strictly Republican idea, designed only to benefit big

    corporations. And anyone who said "A rising tide raises all boats" would

    be called a stooge for the rich and an enemy of the poor and minorities.

    Everything depends on race.

    In the world I grew up in, there was racism, but we knew it was evil and

    fought it when we could. We saw Eleanor Roosevelt dance with a black

    enlisted man. The first lady was showing us what World War II was all

    about. After all, the importance of race was the core belief of the Nazis.

    And we all heard Dr. King express the hope that children would grow up in

    a world where they would be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their characters.

    But on Planet Bizarro, the Holocaust never happened, not to mention

    apartheid. We never learned that classifying people by race could be

    dangerous, or even lethal. So we insist that applicants for jobs or places

    at the university be classified that way.

    And recently we were treated to former first lady Hillary Clinton

    declaring that race is an important component of character. Adolf would have agreed, but not Martin.

    Evil resides in inanimate objects.

    In the world I grew up in, we knew that evil resided in the human heart.

    We saw monstrous tyrants abroad and violent criminals at home, so the lesson

    was obvious. And religion reinforced the lesson, as did movies like "High Noon."

    I grew up during World War II, when violent images were in every newspaper

    and magazine, even comic books. Boys played war games or cops-and-robbers.

    I had a cap pistol at an early age, and an air rifle by age 10. In high

    school, we took ROTC and learned to shoot .22 rifles at the rifle range in

    the school basement. Guns and violent images didn't make kids violent. We had good values.

    Many boys were growing up without fathers. But having a father away in the

    service, or even killed in action, was not the same as having one who just

    "took off." In those days, if a boy said his father "took off," you would assume he was an aviator.

    At the age of 8, I could walk to school alone through a park. Kids weren't

    afraid. People didn't put bars on their windows. Only criminals lived

    behind bars. And the 1950s, when the World War II generation matured, were marked

    by a low homicide rate and the lowest suicide rate in our history.

    But on Planet Bizarro, this never happened. We "know" that guns cause

    crime, so we ban guns, even toy guns, and we suspend little boys from school if

    they point their finger and say "bang." We forbid boys to play war games or cops-and-robbers.

    We also "know" that there are no bad people, only sick people.

    Then why is it that on Planet Bizarro we have to teach kids "stranger

    danger"? Why is it that children live in fear, but molesters don't? Why is

    it that law-abiding citizens feel the need to live behind bars, but criminals roam free?

    Of course, no one asks these questions, because all this seems normal. And

    why shouldn't it? On Planet Bizarro, people think that's the way it has always been.

    Try this test: What would you do if a man broke down your front door at 2

    a.m., screaming threats and brandishing a bloody ax? (Choose one.)

    a) Call the police only if they promise not to use force, which "never solves anything."

    b) Phone an attorney and discuss obtaining a restraining order from the court.

    c) Press for stricter ax-control laws.

    d) Do nothing, so as not to continue the "cycle of violence."

    e) Inquire whether the man's childhood was unhappy.

    f) Sit down and talk, while trying to "see things from his point of view."

    g) Avoid a "pre-emptive strike" by waiting till he starts hacking up your family.

    h) Shoot him.

    If you chose any answer from (a) through (g), you're already on Planet

    Bizarro. Life there won't be easy. Without history to guide you,

    everything is confusing. But if you chose (h), you're still at home on Planet Earth.

    Glad to have you with us.








    ATF
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    Fellow ProtestWarriors,

    Our war in Iraq has truly separated the wheat from the chaff, as we've
    seen the true agenda of the leftist mindset come to the fore. Loathe
    to admit that they hate freedom, they will desperately cling to their
    shopworn canards, about this war being at the behest of Halliburton, or
    Big Oil, or a shadowy cabal of neocons, rather than just admit that they
    don't want to see the Western values of freedom and individual rights
    spread. And since every society that has ever been run under socialist
    or Islamist precepts has degenerated into barbarism and tyranny, our
    enemies can only respond by demonizing America rather than defending
    their position.

    We live in an increasingly dangerous world. The fate of Iraq teeters
    in the balance. While the majority of Iraqis just want their
    inalienable right to live, work, learn, and pray as they see fit, the
    Islamo-fascists are desperately working to prevent anyone else in the region from
    getting any ideas about this 'freedom' thing.

    Case in point is Iran. It's not enough that their entire
    post-revolution generation is chaffing under the mullahs' chains, these theocratic
    oligarchs openly bankroll terrorism, determined that Iraq also be under
    their yoke. It seems to be a mainstay of Islamo-fascists and
    socialists that they are never content to just devastate their own countries,
    they must conquer the globe so as to eliminate any contrasts between
    their society and free societies. So despite sitting on an ocean of oil,
    Iran is building a nuclear reactor because they say they "just need the
    energy". We won't hold our breath waiting for the world's 'pacifists'
    to stage any protests.

    China is quietly arming itself to the tilt, readying itself to enslave
    Taiwan. It's funny that leftists so despise corporations, yet had no
    problem with the Loral Corporation, the number one donor to the
    Democratic Party during the Clinton administration, being given the go ahead to
    sell satellite missile guidance technology to China over the vehement
    protests of the Defense Department. The Ralph Nader/Michael
    Moore/loony-left axis never had a problem with that particular corporate
    malfeasance, and are probably glad that China can now nuke L.A. as a check
    against American 'hegemony'. Think we'll see the left protesting China's
    nuclear missile buildup and imperialist designs?

    And North Korea, a country that has followed the principles of
    socialism to the maximum and created a society to rival Orwell's 1984 for its
    sheer totalitarian depravity, an almost perfect monolith of evil, is
    sitting on a nuclear reactor, courtesy of Clinton and Co., and will
    inevitably be selling instruments of death to the highest bidder. Think
    we'll hear a peep from the left?

    America faces tough military challenges if it is going to continue to
    keep the forces of darkness from taking over. This fight will not be
    won with just planes and tanks, but with ideas. The left has done their
    utmost to control society's ideological transmission belts, our schools
    and the mass media, emasculating our nation and diluting our
    determination. Yet for all their machinations, they will never be able to erase
    the crystal clear demonstration provided to us by history, that there
    is a perfect direct ratio between economic liberty and health, wealth
    and happiness.

    And that's what being a ProtestWarrior is all about, fighting the
    battle of ideas and taking it to the statists. And with the ProtestWarrior
    HQ membership swelling beyond 3000 in just three months, things have
    started to take shape. Around the country, citizens have taken it upon
    themselves to engage in operations against the left, beating them in
    their own game. The Bay Area ProtestWarrior chapters are making sure that
    no anti-American demonstrations on the Left Coast go unchecked. The
    Dallas chapter is engaging the left weekly with Operation Halliburton
    Defense Force, sending the local Communists into a panic.

    PW's New York City chapter sent a shot across the bow to the media
    elites with Operation Bias Check, crashing the Today Show with signs that
    made a perfect background for Matt Lauer. This mission was such a
    success that Rush talked about it on his show and later put a story
    detailing the operation on his website
    (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_063004/content/eib_extra.guest.html).

    And disproving the Marxist axiom that everything is inevitable social
    constructs and individuals don't matter, Bryan Henderson showed what one
    person can do with Operation Tiger Claw. Bryan taught his
    Chomsky-preaching professor a lesson: that the Left's monopoly in the classroom is
    over, and faced down the principal, hostile students, and a typical
    public school atmosphere that until now only tolerated their kind of
    dissent. The tale of his lone wolf stand for truth spread like wildfire
    across the blogger universe, and David Horowitz has posted Bryan's
    operation debriefing in its entirety on FrontPageMag.com
    (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Content/read.asp?ID=82).

    We want to congratulate all the above, and now turn our attention to
    what lies ahead.


    OPERATION LIBERTY RISING

    Most elections revolve around one central question: should we grow
    government at a fast rate, or should we grow it at a very fast rate. This
    time however, battle lines have been drawn and each side is polarized
    like never before, and the issues could not be more fundamental and
    important. While President Bush and the Republican Congress have
    unfortunately caved in to Democrat principles and not done nearly enough to
    limit government, considering the times we live in today, President Bush's
    leadership in the wake of 9/11, removing two of the most vile, fascist
    decrepit regimes off the face of the earth and establishing the seeds
    of freedom in the Middle East, is worthy of any liberty lover's support.

    As the spirit of anti-war protests has been crushed under the weight of
    the emerging democracy in the Middle East, they have found a new
    justification to raise their fists in the air in frantic indignation: the
    Republicans have committed the cardinal sin of choosing New York City as
    the location for their National Convention, as this hinders the left's
    efforts to erase the events of September 11th from America's memory.

    And they will be working full steam to make sure anyone associated with
    the RNC feels less than unwelcome. As mobs of 'pacifists' plan to
    descend on New York, encouraging each other to blockade hotels and
    convention sites, anti-RNC websites are distributing lists of delegates'
    itineraries and hotel accommodations, targeting them for harassment.

    On August 29th, the Republican National Convention will begin, and
    ProtestWarrior will be there to take on the hordes of leftists whose entire
    goal is to silence, to hate, to scream out of existence the idea that
    freedom can flourish throughout the world.

    Sign up at HQ to join the battle. Full mission dossier coming soon.

    And for those interested in new battle gear, be sure to check out our
    new t-shirt designs at the recently renovated PW site at

    http://www.protestwarrior.com/tshirts.php

    -Alan and Kfir



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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    I did not write this .This is a retort a person had to one of the liberal gun bashers on a forum.. its interesting

    Ill informed public and their need for "Gun Control".

    According to the FBI, in 2010 1704 murders with knives and 358 were murdered with rifles. And only fraction of the 358 were with Assault rifles... why this obsession with banning Assault rifles?


    In the United States, over the course of 1 year:
    -1,236 children died from drowning due to lapse in adult supervision
    -1,946 children died in fires
    -6,466 children were killed in motor vehicle crashes

    174 children died from firearm-related injuries... and all of the sudden, people "care"? People only care about what's trending...

    In 2010, 211 children were killed in drunk driving crashes. Why aren't you crying out for a ban on alcohol and cars? Oh, it might inconvenience you if alcohol and cars were banned?

    Teen alcohol use kills about 6000 people each year, more than all illegal drugs combined. In 2011, 9,878 people died in drunk driving crashes - one every 53 minutes... do you care?

    People don't need a 600 hp muscle car, since there is only one purpose... speed. And we know speed kills. So now we have to ban any car over 100 hp because its overkill? or whenever someone plows into people using their car as a weapon, we cry for a ban on cars? Who decides what's excessive? You? Me?

    Thousands of children die and you have remained silent so don't all of the sudden pretend like you care because its what the liberal media wants to report... please..
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    I find it interesting that two fellows that have been locked on the government tit from high school, and never had a job in the real world, spend so much time criticizing a man who has never worked in government and always had a business. How could they possibly know what it takes to run a real business?
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    http://www.ksl.com/?sid=23519836&nid=148&title=gun-groups-offer-utah-teachers-free-concealed-weapon-class&s_cid=queue-10

    WEST VALLEY CITY - Should teachers have guns? Would that have stopped the Massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary?

    The Utah Shooting Sports Council and the Utah-based website opsgear.com seem to have an answer: Yes. That's why they're offering a free class to Utah's teachers, as well as anyone who works on school grounds, according to Clark Aposhian, who will be conducting part of the training.

    They're calling the class "Safe to learn. Safe to teach," and providing not only permit training, but also some basic training in handling firearms which emphasize safety, according to Aposhian.

    Utah is one of two states that allow guns on public school campuses, the other being Kansas. Aposhian, who is also the chairman of the USSC, said that the lack of a school shooting in Utah shows that allowing guns on campuses does not necessarily lead to more gun problems at schools. He also said they weren't necessarily trying to put more firearms on campuses throughout the state either.

    I don't understand the logic that having more guns will create less gun problems.
    -Cassie Stoneman, former Utah public school teacher
    "Make no mistake, we're not trying to arm teachers, it's completely up to them," Aposhian said. "The only reason to offer this kind of class is if we're serious and committed to protecting our kids."

    Not everyone agrees. Former Utah special education teacher Cassie Stoneman said she would never support that idea and that guns should be an absolute last resort.

    "I would be terrified that one of my students would find my weapon and bring it out," Stoneman said.

    She also said that being armed while teaching could lead to difficult discussions about why a teacher had a gun that weren't relevant to learning.

    "I don't understand the logic that having more guns will create less gun problems," she said.

    Granite School District spokesperson Ben Horsley said that the district knows of several teachers and administrators who have concealed carry permits, but that the district doesn't track whether they bring their weapons on campus, and they wouldn't want to either.

    "Teachers, according to law, are allowed to carry concealed permits and weapons, and if they choose to do so, they are allowed to do so," Horsley said.

    However, there are specific policies that teachers have to abide by, including having the weapon on their person at all times.

    Related:
    Would more teachers with guns make schools safer?
    More guns in the hands of teachers and administrators could effectively make schools safer and better prepared for active shooters, a Utah gun instructor said.
    "District policy is very specific that weapons cannot be stored on campus," he said, meaning they can't be left in a cabinet, desk or any other location. Horsley said this was to make sure a student couldn't accidentally get hold of a weapon.

    Davis School District spokesperson Chris told KSL his district also requires teachers to have their weapon on them at all times, and that they encourage teachers to inform their principal when they are carrying because they feel unsafe.

    Aposhian didn't say that an armed teacher would definitely have stopped the killer in Newtown Conn., but he said the rampage shows what happens when teachers are unarmed and must wait for law enforcement to arrive.

    "It's somewhat pollyannic to say we don't need more guns in schools," Aposhian said. "I mean, who do they call when there's a school shooting? People with guns. We expect them so show up and bring their guns."
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    this was in an email


    Interesting, and this is only one State..............

    If this doesn't open your eyes nothing will!







    From the L. A. Times


    1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.



    95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.



    75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.



    4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.



    Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.



    Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.



    The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.



    Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.



    21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.


    10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.



    (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County . )



    (All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)



    Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.



    Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.



    29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.



    We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.



    HOW CAN YOU HELP?



    Send copies of this letter to at least two other people. 100 would be even better.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    Give this one a read!!!
    Rather than the Link, here is the article;;;;;

    The Mutiny At NRA

    By NEAL KNOX

    WASHINGTON, D.C. (Jan. 1, 1999)--There had been rumbles of problems for
    months, but Wayne LaPierre's mutiny against the NRA Board really began at the
    September 1996 meetings, when the Directors did something most unusual: They
    exercised their Bylaws-imposed duty to "formulate the policies and manage and
    have general charge of the affairs and property of the Association."

    The Board prohibited the use of costly, member-angering certified mail
    fundraising letters, and took steps to rein in LaPierre's free-spending
    policies that threatened to drive NRA into bankruptcy.

    The paid staff, led by the executive vice president and financially supported
    by contractors who were growing wealthy from NRA, attacked the uppity board
    with a well-planned, well-financed campaign that resulted in the replacement
    of three incumbent Directors and the subsequent defeat of the two Vice
    Presidents in 1997. Thirteen more incumbent Directors were replaced in 1998,
    and 11 more are targeted for removal by the election that gets underway in
    February.

    Electing new NRA officers and directors can be beneficial-if it results in a
    better, more financially secure NRA, one doing a better job of defending our
    Second Amendment rights.

    But before you cast the ballot in your February NRA magazines you need to have
    a better understanding of what triggered the director purge, and decide for
    yourself whether it's in NRA's best interests--and the interests of America's
    gunowners--for the purge to continue.

    During that 1996 meeting LaPierre told 2nd Vice President Albert Ross that the
    proposed Board resolution could destroy "the greatest fundraising organization
    this country has ever known." Albert was appalled, for NRA's duty is to
    defend gun rights and provide services to the members, not milk them.
    Under a deluge of fundraising letters since LaPierre became E.V.P. in 1991,
    contributions to NRA had increased from $13 million (mostly to NRA-ILA) to
    $36.4 million in 1995. But the members were tired of it. The certified mail
    fundraising letters, which caused many members to have to take off work or
    make long drives to their post offices, were the last straw.

    Despite the generous member contributions, NRA's tax-exempt IRS returns showed
    that the association's net worth had declined more than $60 million in five
    years--from $12.1 million at the beginning of 1991 to a negative $51.5 million
    in the hole at the beginning of 1996. (Thanks mainly to the runup of the
    stock market and an unauthorized cut-rate sale of Life Memberships, NRA's net
    worth has since improved to around $30 million in the red.)

    At that 1996 meeting the Board was shown a preliminary management audit
    prepared under the direction of Finance Committee Chairman Rick Carone (a
    highly successful businessman and former vice president of one of the nation's
    largest banks). It showed that millions had been spent in violation of long-
    standing Board policies requiring approval of the non-paid officers (President
    and Vice President) on all contracts and agreements over $100,000, and that
    millions more had been spent without written contracts.

    More sweeping changes, such as taking away LaPierre's control over NRA
    finances, or even removing him as E.V.P., would almost certainly have occurred
    at that meeting if Directors had not been worried about adversely impacting
    NRA's efforts in the 1996 general elections six weeks away.

    Further actions were deferred until the winter meeting, but the Board gave the
    Finance Committee unprecedented powers to try to get NRA's financial house in
    order.

    LaPierre--and NRA's contractors who benefit from their cozy relationship with
    him--struck back.

    Items were planted in the National Journal and Washington Times<D> that
    "the Neal Knox faction" intended to remove LaPierre, President Marion Hammer
    and ILA Executive Director Tanya Metaksa-which diverted attention from
    LaPierre. (LaPierre was on thin ice with the Board, but to my knowledge there
    was never any plan or organized effort to remove either Hammer or Metaksa.)
    LaPierre launched a media blitz--with the help of NRA's public relations
    firm--in which he accused me of "extremism," said the Board majority wanted to
    turn NRA into the John Birch Society, and claimed we wanted to make NRA into a
    "militia-type organization."

    It was a classic Bill Clinton-type attack on those who exposed his wrongdoing.
    At the February 1997 Board meeting a Bylaw change allowing the Executive Vice
    President to be suspended or removed by majority vote was supported by a solid
    39-30 majority, but short of the two-thirds that President Hammer ruled was
    required for passage.

    LaPierre then asked for negotiations with the officers and Carone, which kept
    the rest of the Directors twiddling their thumbs for seven hours. No
    agreements were reached, but the delay caused Carone's complex financial
    report to be presented in the middle of the night, when most directors were
    too punchy to understand it, much less make any intelligent decisions.
    The Board meeting adjourned at 4 a.m.

    What the Board majority didn't know was that the previous week LaPierre and
    his supporters had secretly ordered the placement of a full page ad in the
    ballot issue of the NRA magazines-six weeks after the published deadline for
    election ads.

    That ad featured then-President Hammer, E.V.P. LaPierre and then-ILA Director
    Tanya Metaksa. It urged members to "Support the Winning Team" and to "Vote
    Against" nine director candidates, including Vice Presidents Knox and Ross,
    and Finance Chairman Carone.

    The ad worked. five of the nine, including Carone, were defeated, tipping the
    balance of power on the Board.

    At the May 1997 Seattle meeting, the head of NRA's public relations firm, Tony
    Makris, who has had a long relationship with actor Charlton Heston, openly
    directed Heston's campaign for the one-year Directorship chosen at the annual
    meeting. Vice President Ross and I had refused to extend the Makris firm's
    $80,000 per month (plus expenses) contract.

    Not surprisingly, Heston was overwhelmingly elected (although he had not been
    a director nominee, as required by the Bylaws).

    Two days later, Heston won the First Vice Presidency by four votes. Albert
    Ross was defeated as Second Vice President by one vote. (The new officers
    quickly approved a new contract for Makris.)

    The next day, speaking from his home while the rest of the board was still in
    session, Vice President Heston began his campaign to "move NRA into the
    mainstream."

    On KGO San Francisco he said, three times, "the private possession of AK-47s
    is inappropriate." Within the next month he said, repeatedly, that he intended
    to purge NRA of the "I prefer the term--extremist element." On KABC he named
    me, adding that I had made "accusations of failure to do the job right, of
    wasting money, of funneling money to the wrong agenda."

    On NBC's "Meet the Press" Mr. Heston told Tim Russert "We unfortunately, have
    a few extremists in the organization. ... and we're going to deal with that, I
    promise you."

    In last year's election, Mr. Heston pursued that pledge. He was featured in a
    swarm of ads and mailings urging members to "Vote Against" the entire slate of
    incumbent directors I supported. Again those ads worked; all those I supported
    were defeated.

    You'll see the same type of ad in the February ballot issue of NRA magazines.
    This fall a more compliant Board--as has been widely reported--increased
    LaPierre's salary and bonuses to around $250,000. And they specifically
    authorized LaPierre to again make fundraising mailings by certified mail--over
    the objections of our Board minority.

    The new Board has put the "NRA fundraising machine" back in business.
    And the purge of watchdog directors goes on. As some of you know, there is a
    formal effort to remove me from NRA membership for life--because I have
    truthfully informed you members of the problems within NRA. The "ethics
    hearing" has been stalled until February, so if my expulsion is recommended,
    the Board vote on my removal will be after new Directors are elected.
    If you would like to see restraints on NRA's fundraising and fiscal policies,
    and tighter oversight of the relations between NRA's senior staff and its
    contractors, I urge you to vote for the following Board candidates--most of
    whom are incumbent or former directors who understand how the NRA works and
    how it ought to work.

    Please support, and ask you friends to support, Michael Beko, Sally Drews
    Brodbeck, Bill Dominguez, Howard Fezell, Dan Fiora, David Gross, Fred
    Gustafson, Bob Hodgdon, Michael Kindberg, Albert Ross, Frank Sawberger, Tom
    Seefeldt, John Trentes and Glenn Voorhees.

    Vote only for these 14 to multiply the weight of your votes.

    ---
    For more information about NRA and these candidates see
    http://www.NealKnox.com and http://www.2ndAmendment.com on the Internet. You
    also can see the Neal Knox column on the SHOTGUN NEWS web site,
    www.shotgunnews.com.


    What do ya think???

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    "A wise man is a man that realizes just how little he knows"
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    ever wonder why we laugh or why people are ticklish? Apparently some people do.
    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82943995/
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Question 1:
    If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis, would you recommend that she have an abortion?


    Read the next question before looking at the response for this one.!


    Question 2:
    It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts.
    Here are the facts about the three candidates. Who would you vote for?

    Candidate A.
    Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologist
    He's had two mistresses.
    He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

    Candidate B.
    He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in
    college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.

    Candidate C
    He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an
    occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.

    Which of these candidates would be your choice?


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    And, by the way, on your answer to the abortion question:

    If you said YES, you just killed Beethoven.


    Pretty interesting isn't it?
    Makes a person think before judging someone.


    Wait till you see the end of this note! Keep reading..



    Never be afraid to try something new.


    Remember:

    Amateurs...built the ark.
    Professionals...built the Titanic

    And Finally, can you imagine working for a company that has a little more
    than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

    * 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
    * 7 have been arrested for fraud
    * 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
    * 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
    * 3 have done time for assault
    * 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
    * 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
    * 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
    * 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
    * 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in th e last year...

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    It's the 535 members of the United States Congress.

    The same group that crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to
    keep the rest of us in line.
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    Just talked the wife and she was telling me,she had spoken to friend, a person of authority who was at the scene of a vehicle accident earlier on Tuesday evening. That there were several drunk illegal Meixcans injured in the accident, but there were several hundred Social Security Cards found in the wreckage.

    I'll check the local papers in the coming days to find printed news to substantiate this story.
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    2014 china made 30 times the amount of cement as the USA...2730 million tons...or 330 billion cu/ft..enough to cover Manhattan island entirely 520 feet thick..china has made more cement since 2012 than the USA has since 1900...cement production emits large amounts of CO2....china contributes to that total as much all the other countries combined ...and according to our govt i was supposed (pay mucho extra)to buy a tier 4 exhaust on my 35 hp utility tractor to save the world.........horse s--t
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    LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
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    The United States ranks 3rd in murders throughout the World.
    But if you take out Chicago, Detroit, Washington D.C. and New Orleans, the United States is 4th from the bottom (in the world) for murders. These 4 cities also have the toughest gun control laws in the United States, and are all controlled by Democrats.
    Rocket Science Anyone????
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    earthquaketrack.com.......punch in your area...been getting a bunch of them in northern oklahoma and have felt them here in sc kansas ..thinking that one may have caused a crack in sheet rock texture at our lake place in eastern kansas
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    Disney has a anti-gun policies but their advertising on the home page. They fight every gun right law in Florida but seem perfect willing to accept the gun owners money
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    Followed a link given by He Dog on another thread and ended up here.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_3_54/ai_n24232207/

    Guy puts forth a pretty good argument as to what was "the gun that won the west".

    What he didn't say and something I've never found out... was the 50-70 Government the round that Zane Grey referred to as the "big 50"?

    Allen
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    Subject: Fw: I wonder if the judges will uphold this one.....

    Yikes, I hope this is true. Wow! Think about this. I always
    thought that Clinton had something on Obama. A birth certificate
    is a matter of public record. I wonder where it is.

    We know that Obama refuses to release his birth certificate,
    and for some reason it is not on file in Hawaii, so this is
    interesting.

    Subject: Is Obama Legally Eligible to Serve as President?

    Here's a question for you . ..

    PLEASE PASS ON............

    SOME TIME AGO HILARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA
    THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ELECTION AND THAT'S WHY SHE ONLY
    SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY, WELL HERE IT IS.

    This came from a USNA alumnus. It'll be
    interesting to see how the media handles this...

    Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born
    citizen according to the law on the books at the time of
    his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to
    November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of
    President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was
    not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts
    John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal
    Zone .

    US Law very clearly states: '. . . If only
    one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one's
    birth, that parent must have resided in the United States
    for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age
    of 16.' Barack Obama's father was not a U.S.
    Citizen is a fact.

    Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was
    born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen
    for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory),
    his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to
    Barack Obama's birth, but-after-age-16.

    In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to
    qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2
    years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of
    Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His mother would
    have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time
    of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born
    citizen. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time
    his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural
    citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama
    should have been naturalized as a citizen . . . but that
    would disqualify him from holding the office.

    The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized
    citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President.
    Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any
    other information does not matter because his mother is the
    one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5
    of those years being after age 16.

    Further, Obama may have had to have remained in
    the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he
    might have had, rather than living in Indonesia . This
    is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election
    law. I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California
    should be very interested in discovering if Obama is
    allowed to be elected President without being a
    natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a
    precedent. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect
    some of this information will be leaking through over the
    next several days.


    If this is true? This needs to spread rapidly

    if only [:D]
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