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Hard starting chain saw.

CutiegirlracingCutiegirlracing Member Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 2007 in General Discussion
I have a very hard starting Husqvarna. When it's running it kick butt, so much better than my old one(still at the bottom of a very big lake [:(!])

It gets a good spark and fuel, but just has to be pulled about 2000 times before it starts. I think it doesn't have fuel in the carb at the begining.

Latily I've been putting starter fuel in the motor then it starts, but still takes a few hundred pulls.

Any ideas on what I may need to do with it? It's a 52 cc 2 stroke.


Thanks

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  • shoff14shoff14 Member Posts: 11,994 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like it may need some new gasket in the carb. It should not be letting the fuel back into the fuel tank.
  • CubsloverCubslover Member Posts: 18,601 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shoff14
    Sounds like it may need some new gasket in the carb. It should not be letting the fuel back into the fuel tank.


    How much has it been used? I might not hurt just to have the whole carb rebuilt.
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,494 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Change the spark plug. Choke and pull till coughs. push in choke next pull she runs. Check your fuel mixture also. Could be bad gas.
  • slipgateslipgate Member Posts: 12,741
    edited November -1
    Does it have a primer bulb? Mine does and if you don't prime it, good luck starting it!

    Most 2 strokes are very finnicky like this though.
  • scrumpyjackscrumpyjack Member Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    New spark plug and fuel filter (inside tank). Instead of using the choke, just hold the throttle open and pull it. They start much easier than trying to use the choke. [:D]
  • owen219owen219 Member Posts: 3,799
    edited November -1
    Trade it in on a Stihl.
  • CutiegirlracingCutiegirlracing Member Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was thinking carb rebuild. It's an older one, but I went though it new plug, air filter and cleaned the spark arrestor. I my dump the fuel and start new.
    I was cutting wood with a couple guys yesterday, so I would have them pull start it for me. But today I'm on my own and I'm sore, from falling down a hill side yesterday too.
  • Jacob2008Jacob2008 Member Posts: 19,528 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Cutiegirlracing
    I was thinking carb rebuild. It's an older one, but I went though it new plug, air filter and cleaned the spark arrestor. I my dump the fuel and start new.
    I was cutting wood with a couple guys yesterday, so I would have them pull start it for me. But today I'm on my own and I'm sore, from falling down a hill side yesterday too.


    [V][V]

    Id start it for you, if I were there [:D]
  • tomahawktomahawk Member Posts: 11,826
    edited November -1
    make sure that the feed line is not split and sucking air, check diapram on the primer bulb if it has one. test electronic coil[;)]
  • headzilla97headzilla97 Member Posts: 6,445
    edited November -1
    If you need a new carb try www.baileys.com they also have all the maintenence things you need Try this website someplace in one of the forums i read some advice about starting a saw that wont start http://www.forestryforum.com/
  • poshposh Member Posts: 360 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Have you tried starting it with the air filter off? Also my 55 has a spark arrestor in the muffler that can get clogged. Check the muffler to see if any mud daubers built a nest there. All these have stopped mine from starting. Good luck, posh.
  • thunderboltthunderbolt Member Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Use a bent coathanger to pull your fuel line up out of tank and check the on line filter. If this is dirty it can cause hard starting.
  • brier-49brier-49 Member Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Spread the gap on the spark plug a little,yes even if it is new.
  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Air filter is full of sawdust. Clean it off.
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    air filter.
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  • CutiegirlracingCutiegirlracing Member Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I checked everything that everyone mention. I didn't have any problems with it today, but it was a short day. It's been raining all day.
    I tried something different today. I pumped the gas a few times before I started it and it would start within 4 to 5 pulls. I never used the compression release. Then after I shut it off, I would rev it hard for a few seconds and shut it off at full throttle.
    Thanks for everyone's help. With any luck it won't act up any more.
  • 11BravoCrunchie11BravoCrunchie Member Posts: 33,423 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Try a new spark plug.
  • MVPMVP Member Posts: 23,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like maybe there was some water in the gas/carb then.
  • mango tangomango tango Member Posts: 3,833 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Make sure the air filter is clean, and there is no wood chips or other crud in the muffler. 2 cycles have to breathe well to run!
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Most likely Fuel Problems because you burn an oil gasoline mix in all 2 cycle chain saws never leave gas mix in the saws fuel tank. The Volatile part of the mix will evaporate leaving the oil and varnish of the mix to GLUE the fuel pump values shut. That and gas will go bad "will smell like turpentine" Never mix more in a can then you can use in 30 days . I think a cleaning and replacement of rubber diaphragms of the carb would also help.
  • cmd66cmd66 Member Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sell it on eBay, and go get ya another one.[;)]
  • divebombdivebomb Member Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    2000?????
    200????
    20??
    I run multiple of both husq and sthil only once have i had problem similar to yours and it was with a stihl.

    if you can pull it apart and put it together yourself then break the thing down! and clean it,

    you might even just have some thread stuck in there i had that one time, .

    if you cant, take it to your local shop and get them to do it, i bet its something easy and simple...

    both husq and stihl are great, work horses, I used to run my hq for the rpm, and the stihl for the torq, but now days they run side by side.

    comparing the two are like comparing a new ford and a new chevy.


    JMHO...
  • joker5656joker5656 Member Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    if the carb is not bad, if its old might buy a replacement or rebuild.

    OR

    call Husqvarna, ask them what the compression is supposed to be. could be a bad piston/piston ring/piston housing or all three. A compression tester is not expensive, probably get one under 10$
  • jwb267jwb267 Member Posts: 19,664 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i have a 032 stihl that has been hard to start from the first day i got it. had it to the shop many times, but no help. i got use to pulling the plug, adding a little gas and bingo, it would start. after the first start, it only takes two pulls
  • tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Perhaps try replacing the fuel line from the tank to the carb. I have several Huskies, and have had 2 of them vibrate holes in the fuel line, letting air in, and were hard starting. Ine was severe enough that it would start, then run dry as there was not enough vacuum to pull the fuel at full speed.
  • bikrprchrbikrprchr Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have worked on two strokes as a mechanic for years and many of the most common mistakes have been covered. Old gas, old spark plugs, plugged fuel and air filters.

    As to starting, have always used the "choke" method (choke on full, pull till it pops, choke on halfway and give it some throttle. Starts right up)on starting two strokes and it works well. Once had a customer with an outboard on a ski boat who kept coming back with a complaint about hard starting. Finally took him to the test tank and showed him where the choke lever was, no more starting problems.[;)]

    Another mistake I have seen owners do is buy the cheapest oil they can find. This leads to problems with carbon in the exhaust system. One outboard I worked on had the exhaust tube so plugged up we had to chisel the carbon out before it would run. Buy only manufacturers brand oil (Husqvarna, Stihl, etc) for best results. Some synthetics work very well also but they also cost quite a bit more. The other benefit to manufacturers brand oils is that most of them have fuel stabilizer already in the mix. Keeps the gas fresher longer but the 30 day rule mentioned above is a good one.
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