Stirrin' the Pot: Pet Peeves

idsman75 · October 2001

Since we all come from a very diverse background (albeit mostly conservative types), I felt I'd stir the pot with a few pet peeves of mine and would encourage you all to list the same.1. Seeing a firearm called a weapon. Makes about as much sense as a hammer being called a weapon. It seems to me that the term "weapon" indicates a pre-determined for that item. It's a term that I feel the Brady Bunch absolutely loves (especially when they here US use it).2. Hearing a "magazine" called a "clip". It doesn't clip onto anything! Actually, something clips onto it in order to hold it in place. 3. Hearing a "suppressor" refered to as a "silencer". Any takers?

Lowrider · October 2001

In the Army, they were WEAPONS.Clip bugs me too.Silencer makes sense to me. It SILENCES the noise coming from the WEAPON after it has fired the round in the CLIP.

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badboybob · October 2001

idsman in the USMC a rifle is a rifle and a "gun" is something else. Stay loose, it's all terminology. After my career in the USMC I call my guns "guns". Even the one that shoots blanks.

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218Beekeep · October 2001

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idsman75 · October 2001

badboybob-- In the ARMY our rifles are called "weapons" but, to this day, I call my own firearms guns just because it peeved me that the artillery guys could call their artillery pieces "guns". I liken them to cannons myself.

Andrew Adams · October 2001

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opentop · October 2001

Well, when I was in the Marines, anything that was designed to be a weapon (i.e. a device for inflicting injury, death or destruction), was referred to as a "weapon". Each type of weapon was called what it was. A rifle was called a rifle, a revolver a revolver, an auto-loading handgun was called a pistol and "guns" were the big cannons on ships or a slang term for your dick. Since I've been out of the Marines though, since most people refer to firearms of all types as "guns", I've reverted to using the term gun to refer to most firearms as well. In boot camp, after we were issued our rifles, whenever anyone in the platoon referred to their weapon as anything by their weapon or rifle, the drill instructors would make us march around at right shoulder arms, holding our crotches with our left hands and saying, "This is my rifle (whereabouts we had to lift the rifle off our shoulder and slam it back down onto our shoulder), this is my gun (whereabouts we were to squeeze our crotch), one is for fighting (raise and slam rifle on shoulder), one is for fun (squeeze crotch)" and repeat that over and over as we drilled. The DIs would run around the formation checking to be sure we were doing this with the proper amount of gusto and zeal. By the time we were done, our shoulders hurt, our balls hurt and (for the most part) no one ever called their rifle a "gun" again. I agree regarding magazines and clips. Magazines are the devices that insert into auto-loading firearms and several to many rounds, clips are the small metal strips that hold rounds to be loaded into an internal magazine, like the M1 Garand's stripper clips or the Mauzer "broomhandles" loading clips. I hate it when people call magazines, "clips" as well, but I've learned to not be one of those uptight dickheads that goes around correcting everyone all the time.As far as silencers being called suppressors. Every book I've seen on the subject of silencers, refers to the various types collectively, as "suppressors". One thing that does kind of bug me is that now days, if you ever refer to a revolver as a pistol, people seem to have a fit. But we should remember, that before there were autoloading handguns, or even revolvers for that matter, most people referred to all handguns as pistols. And most dictionaries simply define "pistol" as a "firearms designed to be held and fired with one hand." So if I want to call my revolvers, pistols, I think I will go on doing so.

ibtrukn · October 2001

i don't read it so it ain't no damn magazine. an after i finish layin one up side yo head u can call it anything u want.honest

Evil ATF · October 2001

1. The suppressor thing bothers me too.2. I HATE the safety warnings STAMPED onto firearms. I recently picked up a Ruger Vaquero and boy was I PISSED to see my beautiful stainless barrel marred with a 3 sentence statement on proper use of the firearm. ARGH! Just put it in the owners manual.3. They are called magazines, not clips. 4. The pistol thing bothers me too. Webster's is right. You are wrong. Deal with it.

opentop · October 2001

evilATF - My Webster dictionary has pistol defined as: "A handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel", so I guess that means that only muzzle loading handguns, breach break single or multi-shot and autoloading handguns can be called pistols, since a revolver's chambers are seperate from the barrel and only align with the barrel when rotated to be so, for firing. So, why then did people in the 19th century often refer to revolvers as pistols?

opentop · October 2001

SaxonPig - according to my dictionary, gun comes from the 13th or 14th century "middle English" word "gunilda" which was a woman's name that had been applied to one of various kinds of castle "seige engines". It goes on to say that the name "Gunnhildr" was an "old Norse" woman's name which comes from root words of Info-European origin "gunnr" or "g'hen" and "hildr", which both refer to war.

opentop · October 2001

sorry, that's "Indo-European", not "info-European".

dheffley · October 2001

"This is my weapon, this is my gun. This is for killing, this is for fun"Drl. Sgt. Alton WalkerUSMC, Camp Pendleton, Ca.1968I didn't argue with him!

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john carr · October 2001

That's no stripper clip in the Garand M-1

Rembrandt · October 2001

Anything used in an "offensive" manner...knife...skillet....hammer....is called a "Weapon". Since most military and law enforcement firearms are used in that manner, weapon is appropriate. If it is not used in an offensive manner (like target shooting or collecting) then it should be refered to as a "Firearm".My pet peeve is media types and politicians that refer to semi-autos as "automatics". Or semi-auto military look alikes being called "assault rifles". True definition of an assault rifle is a firearm with selective fire capabilities..."semi-auto or full auto". .....and while were at it....is it jelly or jam?,.....Creek or Crick?,......roll, bun or biscuit?...and what's the proper way way to install a roll of toliet paper? with the paper coming over the top....or underneath?.....Whew!...Thanks for letting me get that out, I feel better now....

badboybob · October 2001

dheffley you didn't say which hand was raised during that old USMC ditty. And besides it was "this is my rifle, this is my gun this is for shooting, this is for fun."

Lowrider · October 2001

Toilet paper and anything else on a roll... over the top.Definitely "creek."Rolls, biscuits and buns are all different things. As are jelly and jam.Does it rain more in the summer than it does in the country?Do you walk to work or carry a lunch?

She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.

218Beekeep · October 2001

"It mus be jelly,cause jam don`t shake like that". Fred Sanford,or Blind Mellon Jelly

rodgerglide · October 2001

Hey SaxonPig,aren't we glad the "do-gooders" don't have gun manufacturers paste warning stickers on their products as much as ladder makers? That would be ugly with a capital UGH !

badboybob · October 2001

Rembrandt when I was growin' up it was "crick" and we used the Sears catalog in our two holer.

opentop · October 2001

evilATF - by the way, I know exactly what you mean about the Ruger Vaquero. It's a beautiful gun except for that damned, ugly, disclaimer (I guess you'd call it) on the barrel. What the hell was Ruger thinking? That's about the biggest eye sore on any gun I've ever seen and is exactly what's keeping me from owning a Ruger. I'll stick with Ubertis when it comes to SAA type guns. At least they look like the real thing.

ndbilly · October 2001

PET PEEVES - How about when some numbskull writer refers to the "safety catch" on a revolver? Or when they refer to a shotgun as both caliber and gauge as in, "He raised his .12 gauge shotgun and fired."

shane · October 2001

I really hate those bumper stickers that say " If only criminals have guns only criminals will accidently shoot there kids " That really pisses me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spring Creek · October 2001

Trust Me!It's "crick".SUPPORT THE NRA

Rembrandt · October 2001

What is it with people that put sugar in their ice tea?.....and ketchup on eggs?

idsman75 · October 2001

Yeah, I know I'm dating myself as a young "pup" but eating MRE's in the field got me into the habit of putting tobasco sauce on every stinking thing including eggs. Down south tea is assumed to already be sweetened. They look at you kinda funny if you ask for unsweetened tea. I've heard the word "pistol" used to define revolvers and semi-autos as a blanket term. However, my first permit was a "Permit to acquire pistols and revolvers". Who knows? I like em both just fine

Mark II · October 2001

My peeve is when the idiot "gangsta" types hold the firearm sideways and don't even know what caliber they are shooting. Or think a "Glock 9" is a specific model. Or when they say "I want a Glock cuz it aint got no safetys". Ignorance is my pet peeve.

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Pup · October 2001

My "pet peeves"? Jane Fonda, Alec Baldwin, Barbara Striesand, Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather, Sarah Brady, Sean Connery, Vinnie Testaverde, Kim Basinger, Slick Willy, Charles Schumer (actually ANY senator from New York), Steven Spielberg, Rosie O'Donnel........unfortunately the list just keeps going and going and going........

218Beekeep · October 2001

I hate those bumper stickers that say:"My child is an honor student at blah,blah,blah,blah Elementary School.I also hate the ones that say: "my kid beat up your honor student"And also:"my kid knocked up your honor student".Why must people call attention to themselves?

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dheffley · October 2001

Badboy,What year? It was Weapon in 1968!

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Iconoclast · October 2001

Another terminology one that gets me - using "bullets" to mean "cartridges." Peter Jennings I can understand; I expect him to be ignorant - but shooters? Give me a break!

5db · October 2001

idsman75, I agree the term "weapon" for firearms gives the less knowledgeable and fearful the wrong impression. I mentioned this to a moderator and they seemed a bit offended that I took this position. While in the military one should call their firearm what they are told to call it. Once out, the choice is up to the individual and the use of "firearm" is not as offensive as "weapon" when describing machined steel and often polymers that form a combustion engine of sorts that as a by product, projects heavy matter forth in a particular direction away from it.

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gunnut · October 2001

They one thing I get peeved about is when people are just to much in a hurry, and serious about life in general, sure some topics are just plain serious and of course were all to busy,but here is what works for me..Dont worry about things I cant change. Money doesn't make you happy. "sure makes life fun though"God/Family/Country in that order.Yep its back to the basic's for me.... and BTY bumper stickers, Warning Labels, Food Labels,Beer labels, oh heck im pi$$ed off now

gunpaq · October 2001

One of my Pet Peeves in firearm related terminology was my ex-wife's attorney referring to my gun collection as an arsenal of deadly weapons. The most deadly of all was the feared M-1 Carbine Crossman BB gun, a childhood Christmas present, which was referred to as an automatic military assault rifle. My Ruger P85 was referred to as a Luger 9mm Automatic and my Enfields as Sniper rifles. What horror lurked within the walls of domestic tranquility......? The fearsom M-1 BB gun assault rifle was confiscated by order of the judge but later returned to me at settlement where the judge asked "how many rounds of ammunition does the clip on this weapon hold?" My attorney replied "about 250 rounds, BBs of course." Use the right terminology and anyone can demonize a flower or saint a devil.

Lowrider · October 2001

I won't make any points with this, but one of my screaming pet peeves is misspelled words. Having said this, I'll probably misspell one in this post and be the laughing stock of the discussion board.But seriously, they just jump off the page at me. They make me nuts. Probably just another aspect of my obsessive/compulsive disorder.I never write anything, from a post on a discussion board to an annual report at work, without a dictionary right next to the keyboard.Hey! I can't help it.

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AntiqueDr · October 2001

Women > 200 lbs who feel the need to wear a two piece bathing suit, or, -shudder- a thong.Looks like somebody trying to garrotte a sack of cheese.

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will270win · October 2001

Dang I hate them fatties too! It makes me sick to see someone who looks like 10lbs of walnuts in a 5lb bag decide to wear something revealing. YUK!

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gunnut · October 2001

The only thing worse than a fat woman in a thong is a fat man in a speedo, put them together and you have a recipe for blindness

barto · October 2001

now i need to make a long,diligent search for someone who really gives a s--t.

varmit hunter · October 2001

Folks who dont know how good they have it.Look around before you cry.

mudge · October 2001

I gotta' go with Pup, Lowrider and AntiqueDr.Then there's the folks who have to wear their religion on their bumper. Really torques my jaws. Who cares who their "co-pilot" is? Oooops, I started on religion again! How many of you have gotten behind the personat the grocery store (usually a woman) who is doing her shopping for the month, the clerk rings up the total and then they START looking for their checkbook. They've had 5 minutes to find it while the order was being rung up. It's like "Oh, you mean I have to PAY for this?" DUUUHHHH!!!!And why do we "park in the driveway" and "drive on the parkway"? Why is there an expiration date on sour cream?Just one more thing.....keep in mind that only those of us that are perfect can critisize.MudgeI can't come to work today. The voices said, "STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE GUNS".

Stirrin' the Pot: Pet Peeves

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