worst gun

range · September 2001

what is your expereince with yoyr worst gun and why?

badboybob · September 2001

A S&W Sigma .380. Out of the box, 60% misfires. Called S&W, they sent a Fed Ex pickup. Got the thing back 4 days later and works ok now. But I can't understand why they couldn't test fire the darn thing after manufacture. I've had their revolvers and they're the best. Their semi autos are junk.

So many guns to buy. So little money.

Ronald J. Snow · September 2001

Serrifle, Terrier One revolver. Absolutely the worst piece of junk you can imagine.

Der Gebirgsjager · September 2001

Three come to mind!(1) A "Miscellaneous, used military surplus rifle of European origin for one dollar additional, complete with 10 rounds of ammunition" which I acquired with my No.1 Mk. III Lee Enfield Rifle from Golden State Arms Corp. many years ago. It turned out to be an 1891 Mosin Nagant with a bore resembling a city sewer pipe. Was nowhere on the target at 100 yards, nor could one determine where the rounds were going. Eventually got it to shoot approx. 2 ft. groups at 100 yards with oversized cast bullets. Gave up. Put it away. Still have it.(2) Single Action Army in the 67,000 serial no. range. Inside of bore and cylinder chambers as described above. Reputed to have been used in a kidnapping, acquired by a law enforcement relative many years ago and given to me when a teenager, also many years ago. Front sight filed down about half-way, initials of who knows scratched in grips. "Blackpowder" frame cylinder pin retention screw hole brazed in, conveted with cross pin similar to modern version to do same job. Used to carry around with cylinder full of modern ammo (unwise-but most teenagers aren't too smart) until one day I was confronted by the world's largest, coiled, upset rattlesnake at a distance of 10 feet. Fired all five rounds (yes, I did know to keep the hammer down on an empty chamber) and missed all five shots. Was firing rather rapidly. Snake crawled away under a log, but slowly because he was laughing. Put it away. Still have it.(3) Also when a teenager I bought an early, used, Stevens 311 in 16 ga. Even with a cracked butt stock (held together with tiny brad nails) and a chip missing from the pistol grip area it seemed like a beautiful and desirable object. Somewhere got the $35 for the shotgun and a box of shells, and after firing them all off and not hitting any of the local California Banded-tail pigeons (good eating--if you can hit them), and coughing up the money for a second box of shells and firing off half of them with the same results, I gave up. Most of the shots were at birds that were practically stationary eating cherries in the family orchard. Easy prey to my Dad's .410---you'd think a 16 ga. would be ever so much better! Put it away; still have it. This one I have hope for, however. After lots of years and some little gunsmithing experience I hauled it out and measured the chambers. Yup! 2 9/16 inch chambers. 2 3/4 inch shells don't open fully when fired, and lots of that round shot is square by the time it exits the muzzle! Probably never would have thought about the old shotgun again if I hadn't been called upon to correct the very same situation in a customer's shotgun. So, someday when I get the time.........

He Dog · September 2001

Ortages Pocket Pistol. Misfeeds and misfires. It is about 85 years old, and about 75%. Fortunately is was a gift, not a purchase!

dheffley · September 2001

Llama 38 super in 1911 style. The firing pin was so far off center it would only fire 1 out of every 3 shells. Sent it back and they fixed it so it would fire every time. That's when I learned it would not feed and would jam most of the time. Sent it back and they fixed it again, only to learn that it would not extract correctly causing it to stovepipe at least one round per clip. Sent it back and they fixed it again. After about 500 rounds, I noticed a crack in the frame at the slide release hole. Sent it back with a letter of dissatisfaction, and they sent me a brand new gun which I immediately sold.

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lordskull · September 2001

Davis.380top ejection, shells hit you in the head at the indoor range bouncing off the ceiling. poor design, hand hurt like hell after shooting.did not misfire though. good throw away gun at 89.00. Of course can't buy those in CA anymore anyway.

Robin · September 2001

Easy to answer,single shot .410 ga. "Snake Charmer", the hammer would not strike a shell hard enough to ignite the primer from day one. Tried unsucessfully to use it on a water mocassin. Ended up killing the snake by hitting it with the stock. The stock broke and the barrel bent in the battle. The badly damaged Snake Charmer made a beautiful splash as it hit the water hole.

royc38 · September 2001

Mas 49/56 in .308. I will never get burned again. 10 round mag. Could never get more than three in a row without jamming.

leeblackman · September 2001

I used to have one of those "Snake Charmer" .410 shotguns too. Holds 4 shell in the stock. It broke the same way... The worst gun I ever bought was a Savage Bolt Action .22wmr Model 96, it had a special tension spring that wraped around the front of the bolt holding in the extractor, ejector, and firing pin. It lost its tension, apparently it had been taken apart alot. Got it for $75, sold it at a gun shot for $100. My buddy bought a Lorcin .380, his first gun. Jammed every other shot, either double feed or stovepipe. Frame cracked, very poorly constucted. He got it for $35 from a pawn shop with a free case so he didn't complain too much. It was funny when he brought it over and tried to show it off. My Dad, old lady, me and even the dog laughed at him. He wondered why, I told him to go shoot it and see. Its currently a trout line weight...My half-sister bought a Jennings .22lr for $50. It didn't fire at all... She sold it to one of here friends for $200. And I got $50 just cause I joked saying "I bet you $50 it won't even shoot." when she took it out that time.[This message has been edited by leeblackman (edited 09-26-2001).]

l-girl · September 2001

1) S&W Sigma .40 - shot 18 inches high at 50 feet, jammed at least once every magazine. Sent it back to S&W and they replaced the extractor, polished the feed ramp (with what looked like a gouge, I had to go over it with a Dremel and some Flitz), and put on a new front sight. I still don't trust it.2) Sterling .22 - what a piece of crap. Anything that can't cycle rimfire is junk.3) French MAS Model B 7.65 police pistol- Worst sights I've ever seen. Trigger has about nine stages to it, never was sure which one would drop the hammer. Apparently, the French police don't have much call to use their weapons.

laxcoach · September 2001

My first duck gun--a Rem 1100 20 ga. mag. Worked great if the temperature was above 60 degrees, but anything below that it was a single shot. Tried no lube, light lube, and everything up to dripping with oil(or graphite), and it still behaved like a H&R Topper. Sent it back to Remington and it still wouldn't shoot more than once. It's final resting place is about 25 yds in front of my duck blind in 6' of water, deposited there 20 years ago after the trigger assembly fell out in my hand! Thank the Lord for Beretta's!

Smoky14 · September 2001

EVERY gun I got from S&W.Model 10...They forgot to ream one of the chambers.Model 422..Won't feed, won't extract, chamber so big that it splits cases. I've spent more on shipping to S&W than the gun cost.Model 908... Chamber too large splits cases. I got an eye full on the third round fired. The first 2 had split and the third was a lulu. Sent it back for new barrel and then it wouldn't feed, sent it back and it wouldn't run for various reasons. I'd bought it for carry, I guess S&W thought I should use it as a club or throw down.Needless to say I don't spend mech money with S&W anymore.Buy the way; I called Kimber about a small problem and was told that " if you adjust your sights you void the warrenty" ever heard of that?

muwape · September 2001

actually,the worst gun I've had experience with is RUGER 10/22 I bought at Walmart on sale for 139.00. It simply can't fire an entire 10 rnd. clip withjout jamming. And the frigger has to be pushed forward to catch so it will fire the next round. I haven't sent it back to ruger yet because I'm hoping this will stop after a few hundred rounds go thru it, but it hasn't yet.

ndbilly · September 2001

Savage semi-auto .22 rifle. Don't remember the model number but the gun may still be in production as I bought this one in '89. Accuracy was so-so but the biggest drawback was that, after about 100 rounds, the thing would go full auto for three to seven rounds. It was kinda neat in a way (full auto .22!?!?!) but you could never tell which trigger pull would set off the full auto mode and never knew how many times it would fire before stopping. Worked OK as long as it was squeaky clean. Traded it on a Winchester DEFENDER.

Iconoclast · September 2001

M63 S&W. Cylinder chambers so tight that 3 wouldn't accept ammo. Returned it w/ a question as to whether it had even been proofed. After two more trips to the factory, the only problem is removing the fired brass. Some day when I find the right round tuit, I'm going to run some polishing compound / jeweler's rouge through those chambers; meantime it keeps the dust off that nice shelf in the back of my rack.

Lowrider · September 2001

AMT .45 cal. Backup. Won't feed any round without smacking the slide home with the heel of your hand. Every shot only partially fed. At least it's consistant.My buddy has one just like it that works like a dream.Mine's been hosed-up since the day I bought it. (Brand new)

NEEDCOLD · September 2001

Had a Jennings 9mm that blew up in my hand after 15 rds.I knew it was a cheap gun, but not that cheap. Now everyone I see looking at them, I tell them they are the worst pieces of junk that you can waste your money on.

bfair · September 2001

I had and I do mean had because it's long gone, a Savage 99E in .243. The the best group it could get from the bench was 12" at 100 yds.

Semper Paratus [This message has been edited by bfair (edited 09-26-2001).]

shane · September 2001

I had an RG 22.long revolver that was the worst POS I ever saw.That stupid gun would never fire properly. The trigger pull must have been set at 50lbs. from the factory and nobody I knew could hit a barn with it.

l-girl · September 2001

Russian Nagant pistol - configured in .32. Trigger pull must be 25 pounds. Could keep most of the shots on a 25yd target at 25 feet (two foot groups). Probably a good pistol for Russian generals who fouled up and had to use it on themselves.

gunpaq · September 2001

A turn of the century American Bulldog in .32 S&W special w/3" oct. barrel. I bought this pistol for $35.00 at an estate auction.It is nickle plated in excellent condition. I have put two boxes of shells through it and found it to be accurate up to ten feet (12" group) and if you throw the bullets and then the gun it is accurate up to thirty feet. Not a gun to count on as it's accuracy and craftmanship prove but a nice novelty to have.

GunHawke · September 2001

I had a S&W Sigma 9mm (First model made). There's a good chance one of my errant rounds took down a Cessna. That trigger pull was so hard you had to get a running start on it....and I've got big hands, but after the long, hard pull finally fired the first round my trigger finger punched the mag release and the full mag dropped on my toe! I hated that gun...and I hated the S&W character who suggested I pick up the magazine and try not to stick my finger so far into the triggerguard.

"They blink an eye or draw a breath before they pull a trigger. I won't!" J.B. Books

ysacres · September 2001

Colt All American 2000 9 mmrefused to cycleJUNK

Ruger-Remington-RULE THE ROOST

shane · September 2001

ysacres, I just bought one of those not long ago. What caused it not to cycle? I haven't shot mine very much but haven't had any problems. "yet"

jonk · September 2001

I-girl, my Nagant revolver easily holds a 6" group at 25 yards with good quality .312 Jacketed bullets... of course, I left mine in 7.62 Nagant Caliber, and reload. Don't know why that would make a difference, but I do agree on the trigger pull.1. Arisaka 38- got it for $60; knew it needed a new firing pin/spring, but didn't know the chamber was so corroded every shell was impossible to extract without a hammer. Bore isn't that bad, either.2. My FEG PA63 won't feed one round; they all start to feed and get jammed half way in; I need to "assist" the slide with a good slap in the rear. After I get it fixed, I should like it fine.3. An old 12 ga. Victor Plain shotgun... shoots nice, but the frame is worn out where the ejector actuates. Glad I paid less that $30 for it.

Wenn alles richtig ist, dann stimmt 'was nicht. -Nena (When everything is going right, something is bound to be wrong.)

Christian B. · September 2001

I had a jennings j-22 . Enough said?I also had an astra 75. The extractor broke off it's first shot. Fortunately, the dealer I bought it from was at the range and said he'd take it back.... bought a glock shortly after.christian

ysacres · September 2001

ShaneIt is a poorly angled feed ramp is what my gunsmith told me, to steep. I bought it for 500 bucks,when i went to trade it at a gun show i could not give it away,finaly got $ 150 on tradebetter luck with yours

Ruger-Remington-RULE THE ROOST

loan shark · September 2001

Remington 11-87. Will NOT cycle light dove loads, which is what I bought it for. After sending it back 2 times I traded it in for a Benelli which has never failed to cycle in 4 years. Remington said that they tried to make a shotgun for all purposes and because the gun was supposed to also shoot 3 1/2 in. shells, the smaller ones had trouble. Also, the Beretta Tomcat .32. Piece of crap right out of the box. That one also got traded the next day. In my years of experience, if the gun doesn't work right the first time you shoot it, there is nobody who can fix it to the point that you will ever feel comfortable with it.

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