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Caught them!......now what to do?

RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
This last summer someone decided to steal all the tree steps in one of our permanent deer stands. The boys found the steps about 500 yards on adjoining property the other night, appears someone built a new stand and used our steps to do it. We got a license plate number turned in that will be run by the local Sheriffs department. Conservation Officer was informed as well....they said to go ahead and retrieve our property back, but it will be hard to go further with this.Now I not only want my steps back, but would like to send a loud and clear message to this "gentleman"....I was thinking about a laminated note to hang on the tree stating we know who he is and have turned it over to local authorities, of course after we remove the steps the night before "opening season begins"....would love to see his face when he tries to get in his stand the next morning and all he finds is a note...Any non-violent suggestions would be welcome...
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    rembrandt- I think your scenario is perfect.
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  • SXSMANSXSMAN Member Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Salzo is right(Did I just say that?)I wouldn't change a thing.Well maybe,but then again I might not be quite as nice as you!Salzo,took three days to put the flames out from your last visit,been missing your posts and rebuttals,hope you had success hunting.
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  • soopsoop Member Posts: 4,633
    edited November -1
    Show them no mercy! Go to the barber shop and get some hair. Spread it all over the area.I have never tried this ,but I`ve heard it works for repelling deer. You could also make it intollerable for the hunter by using skunk scent under his tree.
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  • wundudneewundudnee Member Posts: 6,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let him get in the tree then laminate that note to his windshield with super glue. I wouldn't do any permanent damage to the vehicle because I've never been mad at a car. But he would sure know that I knew who he was and where he lived. There are some really low down people in this world.
    " Everyone is ignorant, only on different subjects" Will Rogers
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Saw down the tree to regain your steps. He should get the message. Beach
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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    soopershot has the perfect solution.I have used both with rewarding results.Get the hair from a beauty shope,Lots of perfume and hair spray.Works for a LONG time.
    A unarmed man is a subject.A armed man is a citizen.
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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Forgot to add,Take portable drill,And drill small holes at 45 degre angle and fill with skunk perfume.
    A unarmed man is a subject.A armed man is a citizen.
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    now wait a minute,,spooking off deer?? perfume would tell on you, he would know what you did. Take it from a die hard redneck who loves revenge on ignorrant people. just take a walk around the property with a bar of irish spring soap. rub the trees with it and if you do it right it will run the deer right to your stand, practice with it it works.
    when all else fails........................
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  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have had an experience with a LEO who likesss to think his badge is an open licence to hunt on whatever land he chooses, without ever asking permission from anyone. At first, I would urinate all around his stand(which was on our property). that worked pretty good, as the deer steered clear of that area, and changed thier habbits just enough to bring them closer to my stand anyway. Then he noticed they wern't comming around any longer, so moved his stand closer. I found a large vine of poison ivy growing up a tree not far away, and carefully cut it out of the tree. I ran it through a leaf shredder, soaked the chips in a mixture of diesal fuel and vegetable oil. strained out the chips, and applied the extract to his new stand. I never saw a sign of him again...
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Personally, I'd ask him face to face (in a non-threatening manner) what the hell he thought he was doing, why he was stealing from me, and if he needed some steps I'd buy him some. I'd do it at daybreak on opening day at his stand. I think the embarassment would be enough to chase him away, if he's ANY kind of man. Hell, you may turn him around and actually be , well, not friends, but on decent terms. My land is wilderness, but wonder of wonders, I have neighbors about a quarter of a mile away. 6 guys. I like two of them, the others are wannabes, always crisp and clean, won't go out to a stand more than 1/4 mile away without an ATV (right after dawn, not before) tell all kinds of tales on how they shot their deer at 300 yards, and it weighs 200 lbs. dressed out.(There is noplace in the area where you could get a shot over 100 yds, and the deer they show me are usually 140-150 pounds), but I just smile and nod..... Caught one in MY stand one afternoon, said he was just checking it out. Whatever. I think my eyes told him what I thought. He never stops in to say hello anymore, too bad, I'd give him a beer and a conversation.
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  • LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How do you know the steps you found were yours? Did they make yours and quit or did they have serial numbers?
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    They were homemade out of re-rod and our design, nothing else like them, then we lagbolt it to the tree.....the tree he stole these from, we put up about 12 years ago. I like the added touch of skunk scent....seems appropriate for this guy.....got the guys name now and neighbors are watching for him.
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  • DENWADENWA Member Posts: 390 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    LIMBURGER CHEESE on his car handles, exhaust manifolds winshields and a little note wishing him a merry little christmas.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It really depends how much revenge you want. Hair works. Gotta try that Irish Spring idea. The poison ivy trick works very well, but I would caution against it. I used to press the leaves to get an extract I would apply to certain places for certain reasons. I quit doing this when I learned the hard way that some people have severe allergies to exposure (Fifth Amendment will be invoked here).
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Take your steps back, get a chainsaw and cut his tree stand down. Then leave a note on the spincter's windshield saying sumpin like "how ya like this ya thievin' sumbitch?"
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cutting down the tree sounds pretty good, but it's another fellows property and wouldn't be right....besides, I don't want them coming back and cutting our trees down and so on....The guy that did this is not the property owner, he just got permission from someone to hunt there. All the surround neighbors are aware of what he did and are keeping an eye out for him........maybe I should have ol' peta go in an raise hell with him?....no,...maybe not, wouldn't wish that on any hunter.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    To those who advocate cutting down the tree -depending on state law, this may be a criminal offense; at the least it is a civil offense for which you might be sued. Courts don't typically buy into "two wrongs making a right" - unless they are the ones doing wrong.
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rem,1) Take back your steps.2) Find some Arabic writing you can copy onto a piece of paper; put the paper in an envelope with a fine white powdery substance (I'd suggest using Hoppes dry teflon lubricant) and tack the envelope to the tree.3) Tell the property owner, that your wife's cousin's husband is going to be hunting on your land and he's originally from Greece--and that you just want to be sure that he'll relay the message so that whoever will be hunting next door "won't panic or anything" if he runs into a "Middle Eastern looking guy" out in the woods--"with all that's going on today..."Edit disclaimer: Since later posts seem to indicate that some think I might be serious in my suggestion here; please understand that this is considered by myself as "a mental exercise in revenge possiblities" only! Any anthrax hoax, even if not specifically illegal, could tax the resources of the already over-taxed law enforcement/emergency personnel who are responding to "white powder scares" on a daily basis, all across the country.In simple language: DON'T BE A DUMB**S AND DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS FOR REAL![This message has been edited by competentone (edited 11-18-2001).]
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  • arthur wellingarthur welling Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    So, as I understand it, these steps are lag bolted to the tree?If it were I... I would consider....Pulling the bolts on steps #8 thru #10and cutting them down to about 3/8" long, then re-installing them.I fell out of a tree stand once...It was not fun.
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  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Guess what... extracted poison Ivy contains no finger prints....leaves little residue (only the residue that counts..)and when a hunter is trespassing on my property without permission, repeatedly wounding deer, without taking much effort to track them, I have lost all respect for this sucker...he has already delt with the consiquences of trespassing without ever knowing just where he contracted those miserable little blisters...other than knowing that the last time he was in the woods, the woods fought back...
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is why I ask my friends "what to do"....where else could I find so many devious and great ideas, let's see, poision ivy extract, white powder in an envelope, hair and perfume around the stand, Irish spring soap, skunk scent and....(I really liked this...) shortening the bolts on a couple of steps!.....and I thought you all wore halo's and played harps...
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We just take their stand when they do that to us. I got a couple of nice ones too. (HEHEHE) Another thing we like, along with the frequent urination thing, is to take the bolts or nails out of the stand. This makes the predawn climb, or lack there of, interesting. Be in your stand early and listen to em cuss when they get about 5 feet and the whole thing tips sideways to the ground. They won't get hurt, physically anyway. Don't do anything opening morning or the night before, this can destroy YOUR hunt.
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  • spec.4spec.4 Member Posts: 897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Opening day, show up before the daylight with the LEO to get your ladder back and make sure that he is still in the tree stand. Plus make as much noise as possible to scare away any deers. That's what I do.
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  • dakotashooter2dakotashooter2 Member Posts: 6,186
    edited November -1
    I'd be carefull about doing anything that could cause injury. How would you feel about someone spending the rest of his life in a wheel chair over a few treesteps. But there are plenty of nuisance items. Such as tar or honey on the seat and platform. If you use honey you might want to add some peanuts to make the stand "crunchy" and it will attract plenty of annoying squirrels. A few old alarm clocks strategicaly placed and set to go off at different intervals.
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  • travelortravelor Member Posts: 442 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can make a trip wire device thet will fire a blank. Take a suitable piece of tubing, cut a breach in the side of it,midway. Just large enough to insert a blank shell (those that drive nails work well) Toward the back end of the tube, drill two holes, about 1-1/2" apart, strieght through. Put a roll pin in the back hole. fix a small nail into the first few coils of a spring that will fit the tube freely. Drop it spring first, nail pointed out into the tube. Compress your firing pin with a dowel, and insert a cotterpin through the second whole to retain the pin in it's cocked position. Now fix the tube to a tree in a safe direction. Tie a string or wire through the eye of the cotter pin sufficeint to pull it out. Tie the other end across a known trail. Insert the blank last. When Bambi comes walking by...BANG...now you have a fast moving target. and with several of these little toys positioned around the area...good luck tresspasser...
    keep lots of extra uppers for your ar..you can change often enough to keep the thing from over heating...what ever caliber fits the moment..~Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • MPinkstonMPinkston Member Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All great ideas.....How about waiting til openning day and let him get into the stand, THEN retrieve your steps?
    aguncollector@prodigy.net
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    MPinkston-HEHEHEHE. Thats the best one.
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rem - Seriously, take back your steps & make life miserable for the guy, but stay within the law & don't do anything that is potentially injurious to him. All of these ideas sound great here, but some could lead to a bunch of trouble - for you. The cut bolts are a prime example.
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  • dsr611dsr611 Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Originally posted by competentone:"1) Take back your steps.2) Find some Arabic writing you can copy onto a piece of paper; put the paper in an envelope with a fine white powdery substance (I'd suggest using Hoppes dry teflon lubricant) and tack the envelope to the tree.3) Tell the property owner, that your wife's cousin's husband is going to be hunting on your land and he's originally from Greece--and that you just want to be sure that he'll relay the message so that whoever will be hunting next door "won't panic or anything" if he runs into a "Middle Eastern looking guy" out in the woods--"with all that's going on today..."Don't believe I'd be trying this one. I'd stick with the hair from a barber shop and the bar soap around their stand.
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think the white powder trick might get you in more trouble than you want, along with the short bolt one. However funny the short bolt one would be, what would happen if he fell an d broke his neck, or shot himself on the way down? I had a practical joke played on me a few years ago that broke me of playing them on people. Thought it was going to cost me my marrige, to say the least. And NO, I am not going to tell everybody on this site what it was, but If you played it on him, he would know who not to mess with anymore.
    Have Gun, will travel
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  • gunnutgunnut Member Posts: 724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go to the mall find one of them "party supply stores" get a can of "smelly sh!tty stuff" put it in his air conditionar vents in his vechicle!!! I had a friend that did this to his bosses new convertible vette when he found out the his wife and his boss were more than friends!! can we say had to replace the dash!! and of course fired
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dsr and sandman,I wouldn't do the "white powder in an envelope" either.It was suggested as a "mental exercise in a possible revenge technique" only!
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  • REBJrREBJr Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think it'd be funny to move his stand to another tree, is he using ribbon to find his stand before dawn? if so, get some and take him on a tour-de-woods to his original tree, with no stand.Just an idea-Ralph
    Nothing very, very good or very, very bad lasts for very, very long.
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