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buschmaster
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I'm giving these away.
King James version, red letter edition.
give me a convincing argument why: (pick one)
a) God exists
b) "the universe" was created
c) someone who doesn't beleive in God should start doing that
d) The Bible is the "Word Of God"
e) (topic of your choice)
The best 2 get a free Bible. Or whoever you want me to send it to.
King James version, red letter edition.
give me a convincing argument why: (pick one)
a) God exists
b) "the universe" was created
c) someone who doesn't beleive in God should start doing that
d) The Bible is the "Word Of God"
e) (topic of your choice)
The best 2 get a free Bible. Or whoever you want me to send it to.
Comments
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It compliments Aesop's Fables.
Life itself is the biggest clue.
There are a lot of people who say that to believe is just a crutch for weak minded people but I have lived enough and experienced enough to know better then to pay any attention to to people who refuse to acknowledge God.
Read the creation account in Genesis. All the way from "Let there be light" through Adam and Eve.
Then read a physicist's synopsis of the history of the world, all the way from the big bang to early last week.
The two will perfectly parallel. Even to light being the first result of the big bang. (It has to do with photons escaping the massive gravitational pull of the condensed universe during the first moments of expansion.)
The writer of Genesis got it right many years ago. Hmmmm....
I'm surprised you're not keeping one copy. I keep mine between The Adventures of Baron von Munchausen and Grimm's Fairy Tales.
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It compliments Aesop's Fables.
I prefer Bulfinch's Mythology next to it, myself. [;)][}:)][}:)]
I'm surprised you're not keeping one copy. I keep mine between The Adventures of Baron von Munchausen and Grimm's Fairy Tales.
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It compliments Aesop's Fables.
leave room for your bette midler biography[:D]
but seriously if you want to spark religious debate you have to start the thread with a title like "best gun to defend against NUNNs"
Thanks for the offer but I like the New King James version alot better.As for those of you that have expressed contempt for the word of God, well I feel sorry for you.I hope that you have done a five year study with a Bible teacher like J.Vernon Mcgee, before bad mouthing the Word of God.Enjoy this part of your life, your not going to be happy with for the rest of eternity.Have a good time this time around.[:D][:D][:D]
buschmaster
Thanks for the offer but I like the New King James version alot better.As for those of you that have expressed contempt for the word of God, well I feel sorry for you.I hope that you have done a five year study with a Bible teacher like J.Vernon Mcgee, before bad mouthing the Word of God.Enjoy this part of your life, your not going to be happy with for the rest of eternity.Have a good time this time around.[:D][:D][:D]
What's wrong with enjoying both of them? I feel sorry for you. Going through this life blind and superstitious. Do you really put your family second? That's just crazy.
[/quote]it is you and your 2 buddies posting here that are BLIND the word of God is about family and faith but "different strokes for different folks" as they say "see ya in hell".... NO! WAIT I AIN'T GOING!!!!!
you guys evedently didn't read the fine print, let me blow it up for you
Or whoever you want me to send it to
I'm giving these away.
King James version, red letter edition.
give me a convincing argument why: (pick one)
a) God exists
b) "the universe" was created
c) someone who doesn't beleive in God should start doing that
d) The Bible is the "Word Of God"
e) (topic of your choice)
The best 2 get a free Bible. Or whoever you want me to send it to.
I'm in for both. Here's why.
1) I could always use another bible (Don't have a "red letter" addition-whatever that is)
2) It's always good to have one to give.
Now...
a) God exists
I believe God exists because I find it more difficult to believe that so many wonders that we have are the result of a chance occurrance. It's just as much a stretch in either direction.
Look into the eyes of your newborn as they look back. Explain what you feel in any other way. Talk to that same child 10 or 15 years later, the soul in there is apparent
b) "the universe" was createdSee above
c) someone who doesn't beleive in God should start doing that Because, if for nothing else, it is the better default position.
d) The Bible is the "Word Of God"It is the word of man, trying to explain God. It does, however, seem to cover all the bases.
The NT is a third hand, edited account of the life and times of JC.
e) (topic of your choice) How 'bout those Orangemen?
Hors d'ourve for thought: The big bang explanation of the formation of the universe takes us from a teeny-tiny wad o' universe, infinitely small and infinitely dense, to our present ever-expanding state. That teeny-tiny wad, though...where'd it come from?
11 He said, "Go out, and stand on the mountain before Yahweh." Behold, Yahweh passed by, and a great and strong wind tore the mountains, and broke in pieces the rocks before Yahweh; but Yahweh was not in the wind. After the wind an earthquake; but Yahweh was not in the earthquake.
12 After the earthquake a fire passed; but Yahweh was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
13 It was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entrance of the cave. Behold, a voice came to him, and said, "What are you doing here, Elijah?"
You ask how I know God exists.
I guess it is mainly faith. I believe. I choose to believe, but when I have those few moment when I hear that still small voice, I know God exists. Maybe I sound as batty as Pat Robertson to you, but there are those few times in my life where I hear that still small voice, and that voice turns my head. Until last month, it had been years since I heard it. It is not often, but when I hear Him, I know He loves me. Whereever I am, whatever I am doing, he knows exactly where I am.
BTW, I don't want 'em either.
Well first of all when you start getting into the different versions of the Bible the translation and meaning of the King James changes. This was done my man Not by God. Yes, I know that man translated the King James into English from the original Greek and Hebrew. So there is the possibility that some meanings have been changed, but I believe that the King James is the closest translation from the original for the Gentile nations.
I am having a hard time understand the mentality of some of you guys and it shows how ignorant and faithless some of you are. The Bible was physically written by men but through the divine inspiration of GOD. Let me state, there is only ONE God and the Bible is not a bunch of fables/stories that someone made up!
If people would actually take the time to read and do a historical study of the entire Bible, it is very clear that all of the books and events of the Bible correlate with each other. Now most of the books of the Bible were written hundreds of years apart by people that were not aware of each other or lived in the same time period. Most of the books were not even found together or in the same geographical locations. Has it ever been questions as to why there are "books" in the Aproyphia (Spelling is wrong) that are not included into the traditional Bible. Well these books do not correlate with all of the other books, in time, place, reference, historical information of fact, people, etc.
p3skyking: Now let me also state that even though it is clear that you have issues with what humanist call religion. As you state "Going through this life blind and superstitious. Do you really put your family second"? Let me respond to the idea of people Going through this life blind and superstitious. There is a huge difference of having faith and being superstitious. How about using a dictionary to determine what the difference is, it might help you understand what the difference is. People that have faith in something larger than themselves are not going through life blind. They have an understanding what life is about and if they truly have faith then they know what their purpose is in this life. Now there is one thing that I can agree with you on and that is about putting your family second. God established the family a long time before the church, government and all of the other stuff that takes away from the family. Family should be first and of utmost importance. God gives man a clear direction of what he is to do as the head of his family, but because of sin and mans sinful nature we have changed his original purpose us.
Now I also know and underatand that there are some religious fanatics that exist in the world and they take things too far. This is not what I believe God intended for man to do by acting and believing in, by preach in his name.
buschmaster
To address a point to your question, was the universe created? My answer to this is a BIG YES! The big bang theory states basically that something is created from nothing. Well my question is how can something be created from nothing- it cannot ever happen. I believe that GOD created the universe. In Genesis 1:8-10, the Bible states that God created the Heavens and the Earth. Now in Biblical times the heavens was in reference to anything above the Earth surface. There are references to the sky being called heavens and the universe being referred to the heavens. Then there is also the heaven that a Christian goes to when he dies; if they believe that Jesus Christ died for their sins.
So In order to believe that the universe was created instead of the big bang theory (which humanistic scientist cannot prove, just like the missing link of evolution), one must believe and have faith that the Bible is the word of GOD and that it is infallible in its entirety. So for all of you that think it is just a book of fables and all of the other false beliefs about GODS word, I will be praying for your souls that you will find peace through the loving grace and mercy of Gods love and his only son. If you wish to call me a BIBLE thumper- well knock yourself out. However, when you are standing at the judgment seat of Christ you will remember this post.
Now do I need a Bible- No; but if you sent it to me I would make sure that it found its way into the hands of a need soul.
Thanks
c) someone who doesn't believe in God should start doing that ...
If God doesn't exist, and you believe in Him, no problem.
If God does exist, and you believe in him, good for you.
If God does exist and you do not believe in him, PROBLEMS FOR YOU.
The Bible is good reading. When everything is going down the tubes, you can pick up a Bible, leaf through a few pages, and find something to read that is relevant to your problem. Something to help you make sense of things.
Likewise, when everything is going fine, you can pick up a Bible, and find passages to explain why you deserve to feel good about your life.
Here's what I think and wonder about. Now, I've had people try to tell me the world is only 500 years old. This, I can't ever agree with. There obviously is enough evidence to prove this theory wrong. There obviously were dinosaurs here at one time. My main question, like many others is, how did everything get here to begin with? Evolution theories have not proven anything to me, or even convinced me in the least. Everybody expects people of faith to explain their side but the evolution theorists can't explain their own. They think they don't have to and nobody asks them to here!
Now before anybody goes off on me, I will admit, things can 'evolve' (once they exist). It's evident in people. People were shorter and smaller years ago. Now with better diets and easier lifestyles people have evolved into taller, bigger people on average.
But how do billions of life forms evolve from nothing? Why aren't there just a couple hundred, or a few thousand that co-exist? That should have been plenty. It's obvious HOW life can exist on this planet. Everything is mainly all based on water. We happen to be in a narrow band in our solar system where temperatures fall within a certain range to allow water to be available for life. Any hotter climate, the water all evaporates and turns to gas. Any colder, it would all be frozen, locked up in ice and unavailable for any life form to use.
To believe in evolution, you would have to accept the idea, that if it were possible to drag Mars to the same path around the sun as our planet and hydrogen and oxygen mixed and created pure water on it, that in billions of years, Mars should by default be very similar to our own planet with millions of different life forms.
There are so many things happening in the ocean that most people have no clue about. Why? Why all that life? There's probably a lot of stuff still on land nobody has any clue about. What about all the different types of birds? No, forget about all that. What about all the different types of plants!? Why can a coral in the ocean drop a branch, which will re-attach to a rock substrate and grow a new coral, but an apple tree on land that should be able to reproduce in the same manner needs to have fruit with seeds that drop, in order to reproduce. Where did all these seeds come from!?!! Think about how complicated the human body is. Think about how many processes and interactions have to take place in order for it all to work in harmony. This can all automatically over millions of years be created by wind, rain, and lava flows on a patch of rocky soil? For what we scientificaly know, this is impossible.
There's more going on in this world than meets the eye (or that most people are willing to use their head to try and figure out) and people that feel the need to bash religion while having no explanations of their own, should try finding one so they might sound like even a halfway credible source of information. I've read so many threads about religion on here and the analysis against it from what I've seen, has been very poorly thought out. Mainly just random opinions from angry people. Is this post all that valuable? Maybe not. But I've at least brought up a few realistic topics to ponder without trying to tell anybody what they should or shouldn't believe. If somebody's got valid proof or opinions to explain away all this, than be my guest! Lay them out here for everybody and maybe we could settle this once and for all.
If I'm considered weak because the only thing that makes sense to me is creation because science can't even come close to proving otherwise, than so be it.
Just as the Earth is barely a grain of sand in the enormous multi-dimensional beach of the universe, so too is our knowledge base. Which causes me to wonder why so many people are afraid to think outside of the box.