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The good and the bad from the terrorist attacks today. Please contribute to this ...

hkloverhklover Member Posts: 11 ✭✭
edited September 2001 in General Discussion
The good:People bought a sh*tload of goods in 1 day, thereby offsetting our economic drop because of the attacks and the halting of our stock exchange. People are united, more patriotic than ever, and handling things very rationally.People are calling for an absolute response to these and are not opposed to going to actual war over this.Our airport security is definitely going to be increased, with more attention paid to employees with background checks and more seriousness paid to general grounds security.Armed, undercover martials may once again be put into effect to fly on every flight. I'm personally for this instead of further disarming citizens.The bad:A lot of people had to die today for there to be more serious attention paid to our airport security. A lot of people died today because we are slow to respond to terrorists on a global level and take the fight TO THEM BEFORE IT GETS TO US. We need a more aggressive spy system, with people on the inside that can take out key terrorist figures.The media was quick to start discussing how more personal liberties should be given up in the name of so-called increased "security".Airports are probably going to not allow any form of knives onboard a flight. This personally bothers me as I feel that if we had more people armed, there could have been a response and the hijackings could have been put down or at least the flights diverted from their targets today. I think that CCW holders should be allowed to carry onboard a flight. I personally feel safer when at least carrying my 3.5" folder.I hope that these incidents do not further fuel the left as far as starting more legislature and laws that ultimately result in us living in a police state! I want to be safe by my own hand! I don't always want to rely on some police force that as the saying goes, "never there when you need them and always there when you don't" !Guys and gals, be vocal and be heard. Let people know that this shouldn't invite the government to reign down more restrictions and create more so-called "security". There are going to be bad people always in this world and they are always going to do bad things. We can't stop everything and we certainly don't need the government's help every step of the way. I want to be able to protect myself at all times by legally owning a weapon for self defense. If I was on one of those doomed flights today and armed, I could have saved lives.God be with the families of the victims, the victims and survivors. God be with America and you all. May our rights prevail and may we find these cowards that would attack civilian targets. Justice will be served and vengeance shall be had !

Comments

  • ravenrobravenrob Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having a relative inside the pentagon at the time of the attack, I watched with fear and sorrow much as everyone else. One thing that stood out is the fact that these attacks did not accomplish what the terrorists wanted. Instead of crippling America,they brought us together. People everywhere lost their race, creed and color and became one thing, American. Total strangers working side by side to do their part to help people they never met. People stopping everything to donate blood, hold the hand of a survivor and pray to whatever God they have. We are not weakened by these horrific acts. We are strengthened.My prayers go out to the families of all who are hurt, missisng, or worse. I would encourage you all to pray for them, and for the police, firemen and military personell who are willingly risking their lives to help those still trapped. God bless you, God be with you and God Bless America!
  • Bubba JoelBubba Joel Member Posts: 5,161
    edited November -1
  • bhale187bhale187 Member Posts: 7,798
    edited November -1
    The bad is too obvious to discuss.The good: The nation has finally come to realize that we are not impervious to attack. A direct conventional attack upon the great USA by military forces would be futile due to our isolation (except for Canadian and Mexican borders) and our radar/satelites and our highly trained and the best equiped air force and naval forces would IMHO quickly and easily thwart any such aerial or naval assault. HOWEVER today's warfare has become a nameless-faceless act of terrorism inwhich we as a free sovereign nation were in noway prepared for. If you ask any honest official of our nations emergency response organizatons they will tell you that we have been training for years for such an attack, but they have not trained to prevent such an attack just to search/rescue victims after the fact. We must now begin to plan to prevent such attacks. Get the CIA, NSA back to going their job of infultrating-investigating terrosit groups that we know exist around the world with a single minded goal of hurting our nation and punish them before they act on their plans. Send a clear message that anyone who attempts such an act will be dealt with in such a swift and vicious manner that the world will begin to once again fear our nation-not laugh at our leaders tip-toeing around the UN and NATOs every whim. We need to assert our unquestionable place as the one true world power. An eye for an eye is not enough-In the words of Sean Connery in the film "The Untouchables" they pull a knife you pull a gun, they send one of our guys to the hospitol we send one of their guys to the morgue.
  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    If this causes the idiots in D.C. to re-evaluate their wide-open border and ya'all come immigration policies, at least that'll be one positive thing resulting from all this carnage.
  • cbxjeffcbxjeff Member Posts: 17,597 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bhale187,Sure, maybe now the country as a whole realizes that we are not impervious to attack. But what the hell were we thinking for the last 5-10 years? The bad guys have been telling us that something like this was going to happen. Even our own told us that we a duck soup. We need some big changes. Maybe we spend way too much time at the bargining table.Jeff
    It's too late for me, save yourself.
  • metzmetz Member Posts: 121 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If allah has a place for 'em, lets send every damn one of 'em. Happy trails, thats fighter contrails and missle contrails etc. The good is: America has a singular focus, are once again "Together we stand, indivisable". We are not republican or democrat. We are not christian or buddhist. We are and alwys will be American, from sea to shining sea. We no longer feel the complacency to argue and fight amongst eachother beacause there is no other perceived enemy. We now have and understand that there is a very real and dangerous enemy. When we know them they will be ours, until then, enjoy the union of your fellow Americans, all of them, for I feel all to soon the condits and levys and the shark attacks and the gun issue and all the rest of the BS will be back into our lives all too soon. So as to wash away the memories of today and tommorow. I hope, as our parents and grandparents did, that what will come is for a reason and will be worth the sacrifices we have to make. They will be made by ALL of us and not just a few. I hope we remember what the price of freedom is, for it is not in dollars. It is the most precious of all gifts, the gift of life. Do not underestimate the enemy, do not feel mighty beacause the damage wasn't in your home it may be one day, terrorism is EVERYWHERE. If we send troops or any large scale operation, the price will have to be paid by our people in uniform. So love your fellow American, it may be his/her son or daughter. It may be your neighbor. It may be you. Freedom. It's just a word, right? Let's see who fishes or cuts bait now, over a "just a word".Andy
  • PhilPhil Member Posts: 47 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm a bit concerned about the loss of freedoms thing myself.I don't want to end up defenseless(no guns!)with military units "guarding" me from attack like so many other countries-like our European "allies" for instance.
  • spec.4spec.4 Member Posts: 897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let me ask this, Why does it take something like this to bring us together? We should be together before, during, and after this matter. But when people have no respect for one another, then there is problems. As for the families of the victims, friends of the victims, and the victims them-self, my wife and my heart and prays goes to them.
  • SkipVanSkipVan Member Posts: 32 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    One question--Why aren't pilots armed?
  • SkipVanSkipVan Member Posts: 32 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    One question--Why aren't pilots armed?
  • SkipVanSkipVan Member Posts: 32 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    One question--Why aren't pilots armed?
  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't think I want to be in a plane where guns are carried by pilots....one shot through the fuselage and cabin pressure is lost....remember what happened to the golfer who's plane lost cabin pressure, they all froze to death with the plane on auto pilot, flew till the fuel ran out and crashed.
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