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.45ACP - outdated dinosaur
.280 freak
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The (fairly) new .45GAP is the hands-down winner in every respect. Smaller, lighter gun to fire the round with and is every bit the equal ballistically, according to all the up to date, modern gun scribes.
Who needs the old, stuck in the last century .45ACP anyway? Seems like the only ones defending that ancient round are equally ancient shootists, drooling in their oatmeal, unable to embrace the future. Get with the program already, sheesh!
Who needs the old, stuck in the last century .45ACP anyway? Seems like the only ones defending that ancient round are equally ancient shootists, drooling in their oatmeal, unable to embrace the future. Get with the program already, sheesh!
Just kidding. Seems like the majority of the posts these days are obsessed with the illegal immigration problem and I thought maybe I could spice things up a bit. Sorry if I made your blood pressure raise too much, just having a little fun.
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Just what does the .45 GAP really offer? If you are shoot6ing a .230 gr bullet, or 200 or 185 or whatever, the round weighs the same for ACP or GAP. Because both are .45 caliber, you really don't save much space in the magazine.
The .45 GAP is really just an incremental advance to the .45ACP, retaining all the properties that made the .45 ACP a great round(ie. A big heavy bullet moving at moderate velocity.
As for the design of the 1911... It functions well wit6h the .45ACP round, what more could you want that you cant add yourself, like better sights etc.??
Excuse me.. my oatmeal is getting cold...
.280 being funny. The .45GAP is to handguns what the artificial appendix is to medicine. Yet another embarrassment for Glock and an embarrassment for those brain dead morons eager to reprise their awe of the .41A&E.
Sheep man is right on once again.
This reminds me of the 2-stroke and 4-stroke outboard argument. Who's winning that one now? Here's a hint, it ain't the 4-stroke. Change is not always good.
quote:Originally posted by DancesWithSheep
.280 being funny. The .45GAP is to handguns what the artificial appendix is to medicine. Yet another embarrassment for Glock and an embarrassment for those brain dead morons eager to reprise their awe of the .41A&E.
Sheep man is right on once again.
This reminds me of the 2-stroke and 4-stroke outboard argument. Who's winning that one now? Here's a hint, it ain't the 4-stroke. Change is not always good.
Figures it would be a "280 freak" He obviously bought into the same hype and made the same mistake when he went with the .280 over the .270....
.45 round by 35 years that are equally obsolete
and crappy!
... life isn't fair![:(] (LOL![:D])
besides the corporate advantage of selling a round which few companies produce and can be overpriced.
From what I've read and seen on TV the .45 ACP was good anough to save the necks of quite a few Marines on Guadalcanal, SO IT'S GOOD EOUNGH FOR ME, GOMER!
I think this thread has accomplished it's original intended goal. Right .280?[:)]
And hey, Hugh, whatchoo talkin' 'bout? "Everybody" knows that the .280 is WAAAAAAAAY superior to that old pile, the .270!
Zipper, I have heard stories about those .45-70s being so old and slow you can pull the trigger and go get coffee before the bullet leaves the barrel. .280 told me that.
LOL ... that's true ... I've heard the same thing!
We could have a HECK of a range report - except in this
case it'd be a 'ranch report' - if we could test that
out! [:D] I'll even let you pick the rifle - choices are -
Marlin Coyboy, Marlin GS OR for you history buffs, a
modern Mod. 73 Springfield! [:D]
Let me know ... if you'd turn over the media/book rights
... I can find a 13 Gang member to assist me as I film! I'd
be willing to pay Chino the $30 for his trigger expertise!
E-mail me if you're interested!
I like, coffee, too![:D][:D][:D]
The hottest .45ACP ammo I could find is 185gr, 1225fps/616lbs.ft.
I'll stick with the .45ACP.
P.S.= You get on home plate with a catchers mitt and I'll get on the pitchers mound with a 1911 .45 ACP and lob you down a round or two. Then let me know how ineffective it is.............
Hey, He Dog, seein' as how I passed the half century mark a number of years ago, I take bein' called a "kid" as a compliment. Thanks!
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Wundudnee and a couple others got it!
Hey, He Dog, seein' as how I passed the half century mark a number of years ago, I take bein' called a "kid" as a compliment. Thanks!
We all got it.. but some us decided to do "the right thing" and standup for what's right, regardless of your motives.
Its just like I'm always saying bout Walmart, a bunch of Chinese junk, traded for American jobs with worthless eurodollars collected by the mullahs in Afghanistan for George Bush and the overpaid executives at the NRA!! I understand perfectly what's going on around here... The question is.. do you get it?
Do you still think Revolution Jim is crazy?
how about kyplumber?
You'll see..we'll all see
then you'll scream,
I'll scream,
we'll all Scream.. for ice cream.. I mean Puzzy, or something like that .
Now stop all this crazy talk about the .45GAP(by the way, I hear it's pronounced like Jap)
The only Gap I know of is a clothing store frequented by retarded teenaged kids.
quote:Smaller, lighter gun to fire the round with and is every bit the equal ballistically, according to all the up to date, modern gun scribes.
There goes the notion of guns being substitutes for one's, *ahem*, "Johnson."
quote:Who needs the old, stuck in the last century .45ACP anyway? Seems like the only ones defending that ancient round are equally ancient shootists, drooling in their oatmeal, unable to embrace the future.
I represent that remark!
quote:Get with the program already, sheesh!
Screw you! The day I go over to the .45 GAP is the day I stop voting Whig!
(Yes, this entire response is meant to be taken light heartedly[:D])
and is every bit the equal ballistically
And where does the word "equal" get defined as "superior"? The .45 GAP will never replace the .45 ACP. It will go the way pf the .41AE, the .41 Mag. and all of the other flashes in the pan.
Edit... Just figured out what Gun_runner was talking about, and yes, you are bad! Go to bed without your gun![}:)]
Nyuk nyuk nyuk. Ya might want to go back to my original post and do the old "Right click, Select all" deal!
And hey, Hugh, whatchoo talkin' 'bout? "Everybody" knows that the .280 is WAAAAAAAAY superior to that old pile, the .270!
I know you are kidding, but if anyone takes this serious, I will be glad to take their antiquated, dinosaur, ancient round 45 ACP of their hands for $50.
I'm not trying to really knock the GAP if you guys here really like; just saying I prefer the time tested 45ACP.
Here are a few stats from the corbon web-site:
.45GAP
45 GAP 230 GR MATCH 750FPS/287FTLBS
45 GAP 200 GR. JHP 950 FPS/401FTLBS
45 GAP 165 GR. PB 1075 FPS/ 424 FTLBS POW'RBALL
45 GAP 160 GR. DPX 1075FPS/411FTLBS
.45ACP
45 AUTO+P 145 GR. 1350 FPS/ 587 FTLBS GLASER SAFETY SLUG BLUE
45 AUTO+P 165 GR. PB 1225 FPS/550 FTLBS POW'RBALL
45 AUTO+P SILVER 145 GR. 1350 FPS/ 587 FTLBS GLASER SAFETY SLUG SILVER
45 AUTO 160 GR. DPX 1050/392FTLBS
45 AUTO+P 165 GR. JHP 1250 FPS/573 FTLBS
45 AUTO+P 185 GR. DPX 1075FPS/475FTLBS
45 AUTO+P 185 GR. JHP 1150FPS/543 FTLBS
45 AUTO+P 200 GR. JHP 1050 FPS/490 FTLBS
45 AUTO+P 230 GR. JHP 950 FPS/461FTLBS
Federal 45 AUTO standard 230 GR FMJ 850FPS/ 360FTLBS
Plus, I can go into ANY gun store and into any Walmart and find 45 ACP all day long at a relatively affordable price. The 45 ACP has a 100 year history.
What's this GAP got going for it, a store that sells women's clothes and has Sarah Jessica Parker as its spokesperson?
How are you doing that??
Gun-runner -
Any time that you want to see exactly how somebody posted something, just go to the post in question and hit the "Reply with Quote" icon. A box will open up showing you how it's done. Easy as pie.
...outdated dinosaur
Is there any other kind?
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php
Is there any other kind?
Aw crap, ya got me on that one. [;)]
The (fairly) new .45GAP is the hands-down winner in every respect. Smaller, lighter gun to fire the round with and is every bit the equal ballistically, according to all the up to date, modern gun scribes.
Who needs the old, stuck in the last century .45ACP anyway? Seems like the only ones defending that ancient round are equally ancient shootists, drooling in their oatmeal, unable to embrace the future. Get with the program already, sheesh!
Doh, I forgot about the old spoiler! Got me good on that one!
Gay * Pistol is a solution to a problem that does not exist, it will go the way of the 10mm {no ballistic comparison what so ever}, it will always have a small following but will itself become obsolete
and the only other thing it does is screw up collecting your real .45 brass, i hate that crap