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War Movies

RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
edited November 2001 in General Discussion
I know, there's been plenty of topics on them. But, I'm bored, and thought I'd share my recent movie watches:

Apocalypse Now
Platoon
Windtalkers
Tropic Thunder


Yes, that's right. I made it until the past two weeks without having watched any of those movies. And yes, I know Tropic Thunder is a garbage satire movie, but I still hadnt seen it so I listed it.

Side note, I want to re-read The Unit sometime too. Great book when I read it all those years ago.

Any movies/books that are wildly popular that it took you forever to see? Or still havent seen?
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    .....name a movie that portrayed the best war scenes you have ever seen...
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do You Agree

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/gallery/most-popular-war-movies-of-all-time/ss-AAzfvEO?li=BBnb7Kz
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    almost every war movie deals with the life of the officers and really not to many about the enlisted men why is that?

    on active duty the officers always had it pretty kush compared to us enlisted folks.

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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What's your picks for the best War Movies of all time?...Why, realism, accuracy, story line, actors?......What were the worst.
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    My favorite...."The Enemy Below" with Robert Mitchum and Kurt Jurgins.It's the story of a WWII "cat-and-mouse" game between an U.S. Navy Destroyer Escort and a U-Boat.Similar to "Das Boot", but better, I think, because it shows the thinking of both commanders, and the action on both ships.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    So Many good ones.....I'd pick the "Rough Riders"....I loved that Busey guy as General "Fightin Joe" Wheeler. Another top pick of mine would be "ZULU", mainly because it has to be one of the greatest feats of arms in history...especially after what the Zulus did at Isandwanha the day before.No brainer for worst war flick of all time.. "Red Dawn"!!! Nearly gagged before I walked out of the theatre...total Hollywood fantasy!!! Beach
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  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    Great topic! So many choices. I'd have to go with Das Boat, Patton, and Memphis Belle. Great Escape, Dirty Dozen, The Guns at Navarone, and Saving Pvt. Ryan (because of the opening scenes only) also rate high.
    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conference in 1899.
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  • RembrandtRembrandt Member Posts: 4,486 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    For subject matter I have a soft spot for "Sargeant York"....one of the few hollywood movies that did an honest job of showing the conflict between "conscientious objectors" and "duty to Country and freedom". In addition, it then tells the heroic actions of one of our Country's greatest war heros. Hollywood doesn't make em' like that anymore. "To Hell and Back", the story of Audey Murphy's heroic efforts during WWII....humm...I must have something for terrific marksman movies..."Patton", great character role by George C. Scott, one of the first movies to show the graphic horror of war, realistic for it's time. Showed what aggressive offensive leadership could do-vs-passive defensive leadership styles. Most factually and historically accurate was probably "Tora-Tora-Tora", more like a documentary than a story line. Some of the best film work on the air battles, too bad the Japanese actors didn't speak English instead of those annoying captions."Saving Private Ryan" is perhaps the most realistic movie hollywood has ever made, accurate, no political correctness themes, very moving.My favorite recently was "U-571", great submarine movie. Where do you stop?...."Great Escape", "PT 109", "Midway", "Flying Tigers", "Stategic Air Command", "Battle of Britian", .... [This message has been edited by Rembrandt (edited 11-11-2001).]
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  • ibtruknibtrukn Member Posts: 443 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "The Longest Day"---"On The Beach" if any of u remember that one.
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  • s.guns.gun Member Posts: 3,245
    edited November -1
    The one with Clint and Telly going to get the Gold out of the bank behind German lines.What was the name of that movie?Bridge on the River Quai.The Dirty Dozen.(Not in that particular order.)P.S. Saving Private Ryan
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    All quite on the Western Front. Advise reading all of Remarque's books. Read them in order to get the history of the period.Another good film is "The Bridge". I have the video now but the first time I saw it was in Paris in 1960 in German with Frenchsub-titles. Damn Frogs cheered when the American soldier was shot & when the tank blew up.
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  • ED PED P Member Posts: 190 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Patton was great.Full Metal Jacket gets my vote for darkest, but most quotable movie. That drill instructor has me rolling on the floor each time I watch that movie.Apocalypse Now- although the Helicopter attack scene was unforgettable, that movie definitely went off on a strange tangent.I wince at the 60's movie, Battle of the Bulge, just went way too far off history for me to handle, and Tele Savalis' character annoyed the bejeezus out of me.
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  • cpermdcpermd Member Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    s.gun"Kelly's Heroes"
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  • YankeeClipperYankeeClipper Member Posts: 669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did you enjoy "to Hell and Back " ?
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  • Walt NunleyWalt Nunley Member Posts: 228 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER WAS FAIRLY REALISTIC AND IT WAS GOOD,U-571 PURE HOLLYWOOD,CRIMSON TIDE WAS JUST ABSOLUTE GARBAGE,BUT DAS BOOT IS THE BEST SUBMARINE FLICK EVER,IT IS VERY REALISTIC.IM REAL FOND OF THE LONGEST DAY,PATTON,AND PLATOON ALSO.
    Submarine Sailor,Truck Driver,and very bad typist.GO RUSTY #2
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  • OrphanedcowboyOrphanedcowboy Member Posts: 351 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like to be entertained......I say Hogans Hero's...That count?
    Orphanedcowboy@msn.com
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most historically correct: (tie) The Longest Day; Tora, Tora, Tora!; Zulu!; A Bridge Too FarMost entertaining: The Great Escape (it also was 75% faithful to the true story)Most faithful depiction of period weapons: The Wind & the LionMost realistic: Das BootMost moving: Saving Private RyanMost disturbing: The Deer HunterBest Fiction: The Guns of NavaroneFunniest: M*A*S*H (the movie; although the TV series was great, also)Outstanding Acting not already cited: Patton, On the Beach, Bridge Over the River Kwai, Sargent YorkWorst screenplay / worst directed: The Thin Red Line; close twenty-fifth: Apocalypse Now[This message has been edited by Iconoclast (edited 11-12-2001).][This message has been edited by Iconoclast (edited 11-12-2001).]
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  • TARZANSEALTARZANSEAL Member Posts: 27 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    THE BEAST [1981] SOVIET TANK GETS LOST DURING BATTLE IN AFGHANISTAN. THE WINTER WAR [SWEDISH] 6.5-55 TAKE ON 8MM. BETTER THEN SAVING PRIVATE RYAN FOR REALISM.
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  • rodgergliderodgerglide Member Posts: 184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Catch 22...M.A.S.H...Johnny Got His Gun...Kelly's Heros...The Dirty Dozen...Guns of Navarone...Bridge Over the River Kwai...Band of Brothers,if mini-series can be included...Starship Troopers,how did that get in here?...Oh well,strange likes for a strange guy I guess.
    Freedom is not free,what have YOU done to support it?
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    In no particular order:Enemy Below (We build them good in Germany, Ja Heinie?)Zulu (one of my all-time favorites.)To Hell and Back (Audie wouldn't let 'em put any Hollywood BS in it.)Tora, Tora, Tora (I'd say pretty damn accurate.)Saving Private Ryan (Speilberg went a bit over the top with the flying body parts but still a good flick. Watched it last nite.)On The Beach (Loved Astaire's Ferrari.)Red October (Cool FX. Would rather have seen Harrison Ford in it instead of that Baldwin puke.)U-571 (A good action flick but it didn't happen that way.)The Longest Day.(Hey...how can any REAL American not like a "Duke" flick?)The Big Red One. (The only flick with more realism was "Ryan")PT-109 (Is a bogus, Kennedy worshiping POS.Kennedy, himself, admitted it didn't happen that way.)Rogerglide....STARSHIP TROOPERS????????Mudge
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  • ED PED P Member Posts: 190 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Starship troopers- The movie was entertaining, but the book had some serious ideas that still generate discussion on late night talk radio- people aren't considered citizens and allowed to vote unless they served in the military, etc...my vote goes for the book, moreso than the movie.
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  • usmc2498215usmc2498215 Member Posts: 82 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    O.K. here we go,Full Metal Jacket: Boot camp scene is the best portrayal of Marine Corps Boot Camp.Platoon & Hamburger Hill: For the realism of combat in the Vietnam war.Zulu: What else can you say, when they filmed it on location.Das Boot: (German version) For the best portrayal of a naval movie.Patton: For the best portrayal of armored combat.Band of Brothers series: For best portrayal of infantry combat in WW2. Stalingrad: (German release). For best portrayal of the war on the Russian Front.Thirty seconds over Tokyo: For best aviation film.
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was a big fan of Enemy at the Gates although the ending absolutely killed it for me. The sex scene was a bit unnecessary but the rest of the movie made it worth buying it for my brother on DVD as a Christmas Present. On a side note. I thought the world came to an end when I found that West Point cadets get cable TV routed through their computers which are complete with DVD drives.
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  • rodgergliderodgerglide Member Posts: 184 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks Ed P for bringing that to light...I too thought the book better...the idea of people actually having to do something to enjoy their liberty is quite a discussion starter...one that I agree with!
    Freedom is not free,what have YOU done to support it?
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  • XracerXracer Member Posts: 1,990 ✭
    edited November -1
    Anybody who thinks "Starship Troopers" was a good movie should read the book. Compared to the book, the movie was crap.Another very good Heinlein read...."The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress".TANSTAAFL!
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  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Saving Private Ryan (Speilberg went a bit over the top with the flying body parts but still a good flick. Watched it last nite.)__________________________________________Mudge, are you serious?! I thought it was a great movie BECAUSE Speilberg made it so graphic and appalling. The fellow staggering about and picking up his blown-off arm, the guy on the beach trying to hold in his intestines which were spilling out all over the sand; it was so horrible and shocking and I couldn't help but thinking that for once the violence and horror of war was being accurately portrayed. The old Saturday-matinee cliche of taking a bullet in the chest but still having a few minutes to tell your buddy to tell your mom you love her and to please give this letter to your best girl--that stuff just never rang true. I remember sitting in SPR and feeling my heart pound, feeling sick to my stomach, wanting the whole thing to be over. Gave me a whole new appreciation for what those fellows went through. Yes, I think war is sometimes necessary, but I also think us non-combatants should not shrink from an appreciation of what our soldiers have to go through. War is hell and SPR gave me and everybody else a good dose of it.
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  • compgunfirecompgunfire Member Posts: 95 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Hell In the Pacfic" with Lee Marvin.
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thirty Seconds over Tokyo
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  • ndbillyndbilly Member Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Pork Chop Hill" - Korean War movie. I was telling a buddy about "Apocolypse Now" just after it was released. I told him I thought it was the best war movie I had ever seen. He just looked over top of his glasses and said, "Better'n 'Pork Chop Hill?'" I couldn't argue. Gunfire almost nonstop, assault waves of enemy troops, ever-shrinking ammo and personnel reserves and, finally, not a chick in the flick.
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like iconoclast's choices....all very good picks. Would add "The Winter War" for the best performance by citizen soldiers defeating or at least stopping a huge dictatorship cold. I had a Finnish room mate in college who told us stories of how even in the 1970's the bones of a single Finnish soldier and his rifle would be found near the bones and weapons of 5 or 10 Russian soldiers. Hell of a conflict!! Beach
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,336 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Red Dawn has been one of my favorites for a number of years.....I do not see it as totally realistic but the tie in with hunting and survival makes it interesting... The Deer Hunter is still one of the most riviting pictures ever as far as I am concerned....[This message has been edited by William81 (edited 11-14-2001).]
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Let`s just say that any of these movies(or even Hogans Heroes)that did not have LEE MARVIN in it...would have kicked more * if it did have LEE MARVIN in it!!!!!!!!!!!!"This time dude.....Right between the eyes"
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "All Quiet on the Western Front"Clouder..
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey, Rembrandt, thanks for starting this thread! From reading the posts, I picked up two new titles which I'm sure I will appreciate watching. And I have to agree w/ clouder and ndbilly - "All Quiet" & "Pork Chop Hill" belong on this list. I saw the latter at a young & impressionable age when it first came out and some of the images are still vivid in my mind.
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  • RobinRobin Member Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    CASA BLANCA, a classic and what about the tale of the Kansas or Missouri farmer drawn unwillingly in to the civil war, THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES? HEARTBREAK RIDGE was a good one too. Can you tell I like Clint Eastwood? Do Indian war pictures count, how a about the oldy DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK? Gary Cooper I think.
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  • salzosalzo Member Posts: 6,396 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am with Clouder and Gruntled- "All quit on the Western front(the one from the 30s)".(Forgive my type-o on the word "quiet" but I think it is more than appropriate).Gruntled- Do you have titles for Remarque Novels? I read "all is quiet", but do not know of any others.I also like "Slaughterhouse five"
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Robin: "Drums . . . . " = Henry Fonda
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  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Three Comrads, The Road back, The BlackOblisk (sp?), Spark of life, A Time to Live& A Time to Die (Also made into a movie).& one for the time period after WW II that was so bad I won't list it. They take youfrom early in WW I through the 20s, 30s, 40s& into the 50s. Describe life in Germany after WW I, the inflation, rise of National Socialism,life in a konzentrationlager & another really good war movie about the Russian Front in WW II.[This message has been edited by gruntled (edited 11-17-2001).]
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  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reality is the war movie we are living nowwere lies and deceit are the rule of the day ,were we see national guard take overPOLICE duties in contradiction to US constitution WERE WE see in public TV a USspokeman STATE :The end JUSTIFIES the means on the issue of CIVILIAN execution of TALIBANsoldies wifes and children by northen aliance( A thug agaist a thug ) as he told CNN. YESS ! a real life MOVIE , called : The Final Days of Liverty
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  • royc38royc38 Member Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    One of my favorites is: Farewell to the King. And : Siege on Firebase Gloria.
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