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Where are the Catholics
rockton
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I am posting this question again because the lack of response from the first post. I think this is an indication of the problem.
What do you think.
What are your views of the apparent long endured molestation problems with the clergy in the Catholic Church.
Do you believe the hierarcy of the church is being truthful and doing what should be done?
Thanks
Rockton
What do you think.
What are your views of the apparent long endured molestation problems with the clergy in the Catholic Church.
Do you believe the hierarcy of the church is being truthful and doing what should be done?
Thanks
Rockton
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SORRY
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Maybe all of us need to look at what the organisation we belong to is doing and has done and decide do we want to share the community responsibility for that.
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On the other hand ... I am not quick to judge, because I know that I am also a sinner ... but for the GRACE of God, I'd probably be doing worse.
Also, I'd hesitate to say, "For years we've heard of priest, ministers, pastors that have committed the whole gamut of crimes." like was just said because it singles out just clergy. I am NOT sure that I have heard of this for years ... I have heard of more stuff like that with respect to hockey coaches (maybe others with access to children).
Yes, I do believe we should expect better of clergy, but we are all sinners and we all need to be saved. Anybody can judge and condemn, but only God is in the business of saving unworthy people. Jesus came to help the unrighteous - the sick - not those who think they are doing so well on their own.
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After most of my life on the Protestant side of things, I am now in the process of becoming Roman Catholic. I'll have to admit that the current news makes me kind of sick, but at least it is coming out now and it is being dealt with. That may be the only positive thing about the whole ugly mess.
On the other hand ... I am not quick to judge, because I know that I am also a sinner ... but for the GRACE of God, I'd probably be doing worse.
Also, I'd hesitate to say, "For years we've heard of priest, ministers, pastors that have committed the whole gamut of crimes." like was just said because it singles out just clergy. I am NOT sure that I have heard of this for years ... I have heard of more stuff like that with respect to hockey coaches (maybe others with access to children).
Yes, I do believe we should expect better of clergy, but we are all sinners and we all need to be saved. Anybody can judge and condemn, but only God is in the business of saving unworthy people. Jesus came to help the unrighteous - the sick - not those who think they are doing so well on their own.
Count me among the thank-filled!
Sorry Andersk,
It did not single out the clergy. This thread is about the clergy.
When you wrestle a 'gator, there ain't no good end!!
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I cannot abide such dealings and refuse to accept that there are two sides to the church, one ordained by God and the other human. My position is that the commandments are very clear. I know who's boss, I know the flesh can be weak, but I'll never accept a "holy" institution covering for sinful men and sinful acts.
I'd go so far as to venture that those who cover are guilty of a greater sin than those who acted to commit the crime. No support here!
Nord
We should ship them all back to Italy.
Italy isnt large enough to hold an 8th of the worlds Catholic population. They are the majority.
Larry
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Statistics show that the % of pedophile clergy for all church denominations arte roughly the same, The Catholic church might have a slightly higher due to celibacy, but am not sure. Protestant pedophile clergy seem to favor young girls whereas the Catholic pedophile clergy favor young boys. The overall % of the pedophile population is about the same for all clergy. You would think because these men are clergy the % would be lower but it isn't. Some of the bishops covered up for some of these priests because they thought they were protecting the church, but actually they hurt the church. Hopefully the problem has been handled in such a manner to elimidate these crimes in the future. No wonder the clergy are held in lowest esteem of professionals next to lawyers. The majority of the strength of the churches in America are because of the lay people and not the clergy. These pedophile clergy and the ones that cover-up have tarnished the reputations of all the other good clergy and should be held accountable.
I agree. Isn't it strange that it's often the upstanding pillars of the community that are found to be pedophiles.
I am catholic and I have a theory about why these priests favor boys. For centuries priests have had to take a vow of celabacy, everyone knows that. Also Catholics have viewed homosexuality as a sin. For a catholic young man who discovers growing up that he is homosexual, he may see the priesthood as his best option. Since he has been taught that homosexuality is a sin there is a lot of shame associated with these feelings. So he sees the priesthood as a safe place to hide from that part of himself.
I think priests should be allowed to marry and have families.
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The church did not handle the crisis well but that is the fault of some of the hierarcy. I hope and think that the worst of the crisis is behind us but also think that many who hate the Catholic Church will try to use this to bring down the church
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Statistics show that the % of pedophile clergy for all church denominations arte roughly the same, The Catholic church might have a slightly higher due to celibacy, but am not sure. Protestant pedophile clergy seem to favor young girls whereas the Catholic pedophile clergy favor young boys.
Could I ask where these statistics came from ... I've never heard of anything like that. True, there are bad/sinful people everywhere ... but I do think we should expect better conduct from spiritual leaders.
I'm not giving up on them ... but I am praying for all that I know. Satan is out to get the shepherds of His flock, and then it will be easier to go get the sheep.