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how things have changed. . .

mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
edited December 2001 in General Discussion
So I'm at the store today, and this big thumping Harley pulls up a couple spaces down from me. Shaking the windows, rumbling away to wake the dead. The bike is heavily customized, looks like a soft-tail, and the rider looks like 100 miles of bad road. He's got the tattoos, long scraggly beard, and what looks to be an old WWII Wermacht helmet. He clambers off, and I'm thinking that he has got to be a mean, tough customer, not the type of fellow you see that often in civilized northern Virginia. And then he walks into. . . Starbucks.
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, that's because most of the "real" bad-* low-lifes can't afford a custom Harley these days. I don't think the rebels of year's past were riding $25,000 bikes. Funny story, though.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    $25,000 bikes? Last on I bought was $300. Of course that was in 1952.
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    Things have changed slightly Badboy. He's not exaggerating.
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  • mlincolnmlincoln Member Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know, I sure like those Harleys a lot and as a single male with a bit of disposable income, I figured I'm about their target audience. I can't see, though, dropping that kind of money. I mean, that's a staggering sum. I could get a nice car, a nice boat, a mountain bike, and a couple canoes for that much money. I see recent vintage used Harleys going for $18,000 to $20,000 in the paper, but even then. . . Jeez, I never thought it would be so expensive to be an outlaw.
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Here's hoping he was going into the Starbucks to rob the joint.By the way, you'll have much more than 25 grand in a "heavily customized" Harley.The best buy for the money today, if you want a "custom" look, is one of the Harley clones.Titan, Big Dog, CMC, and a couple of dozen others, running S&S engines and sporting custom frames and paint, can be had for a lot less than you'd have invested in buying a new Harley and then having a bunch of custom work done on it.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    7MM....Don't know where you'll be riding but at those speeds you won't be riding there (or anywhere) very long.I truly fail to see the purpose (off a race track) for those "crotch rockets".Why a Harley? If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand!Lowrider...What you saidMudge the cruiser
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  • guns-n-painthorsesguns-n-painthorses Member Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's idiots trying to go 185 mph on their jap crap rice burners that make states enact helment laws. These retards need to all hit a pole at 185 mph!
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  • ndbillyndbilly Member Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hey, Lowrider - Saw a cartoon in Easyrider a few years back. Two guys sitting on HD's talking to a lad on a Japanese bike. One of the Harley riders is saying to the kid, "Race? Sure thing. Same bikes right here ten years from now."
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Good one, Billy.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • LightningLightning Member Posts: 945 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you like going 180 mph or puttering on the back roads is a matter of personal choice. Its all about freedom. The ones that say no one has a need for a motorcycle that goes 180-200 mph is exactly like the anti-gunners who say you have no need for your AK-47 or your AR-15 because it shoots too fast.
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  • gunpaqgunpaq Member Posts: 4,607 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Where can I buy a new Harley Sportster or Triumph Bonneville with a kick start? The young salesman in the local shop didn't know what I was talking about.
    Pack slow, fall stable, pull high, hit dead center.
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  • smooth_operatorsmooth_operator Member Posts: 227 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Harleys are Harleys and they will always be.just the same with the younger people who loves crotch rockets. It seems that every generation has its own following, then of course there are the ones that stray like myself who would be content to ride in the back roads on an 883 sportster, nothing fancier. Ive seen people physically alter sportscars just to boost their egos (I never could figure out why anyone would mess with the powerplant of a corvette...no matter how fast you make it, its still a 'vette...and you wont get any more women that you could on a stock one). I have a whole month of newspapers bound together from 1946 (nov). After the first time of reading the ads, i was amazed to see how much things were back then......an Indian for $125! a Harley for the same amount! not to mention a beachfront property at Coronado, CA for a mere $1250. then again, the $ was worth much less back in those times.smooth
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  • berto64berto64 Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Now, now fellers, let's keep it civil. Name calling is just gonna cause a row.Mr. Mag, I have met the illustrios Lowrider and find him to be of impeccable character and honor, (that'll be ten bucks, Lowrider).LOLOL.I am sure that you meet these same standards sir, but with a youthful exuberance, and zest for life that us ole' farts can't quite muster the energy for anymore.That's what a strong heart and strong memories are for.I prefer my 1964 Duoglide, for it is the only HD I have ever owned. It has been thru several reincarnations, from an old rat chopper rigid frame when I first bought it, to it's latest as a beautiful full dress road bike.We all love our knees in the breeze and so on and leave the name calling to the left-wing liberals.berto Panheads ferever!!
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  • berto64berto64 Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    gunpaq,A 'new' sportster or Bonneville are not available with kickstart any more.If you can't live without a kicker, visit your local 'aftermarket' HD service shop or a custom bike builder.There are add on kicker kits available for a lot of these bikes, but I don't believe you'll find one on a 'New' one.You might ask the dealer of choice whether or not they can install one for you.berto
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    What did I miss, where did my last post go and who was calling names?How did a biker drinking coffee at Starbucks start an argument in here?
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Maybe the ol` boy was goin` ta work!.218
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  • Loud Guns And Big TrucksLoud Guns And Big Trucks Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Somebody took it personal about his choice in bikes and the other got personal right along with him, sounded like a bar fight in the making. You know the ones, big harley guys on one side and crotch rocket dudes on the other saying thier opinions on the others choice of bikes. Bikes, cars, guns and women, everybody has their own likes and dislikes and just because one likes a bike that will cruise at 55 or 185 doesnt mean the next guy has to like it. I love bikes and have ridden many different ones. Crotch rockets in the right hands are extremely fun and loud harleys are fun in daytona. Just a matter of opinion thats all. No need to get into a free for all over it.
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry lowrider, I got a little carried away and said a few things that wasnt very nice. Not my style. I got my first poof and it hurt worse than having my dog run away.
    when all else fails........................
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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    I missed all of it. Did you take offense at my post? If so, none of it was directed at you personally, especially the remark about "jive-* kids." That was just a general observation. I don't know a thing about you, for all I know you're 60 years old.
    Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah I did because I take alot of flak from harley guys and it gets a little old. But its water under the dam now , probably good thing you missed it. Like I said I'm sorry, I get a little wound up sometims from all of the Mt Dew. And I'm only 36 not 60!
    when all else fails........................
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Hey 7,me and you are cool too,right..you know that other thing?.218
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  • Loud Guns And Big TrucksLoud Guns And Big Trucks Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hey bee, hows it going in fl?[This message has been edited by Loud Guns And Big Trucks (edited 12-19-2001).]
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  • 7mm_ultra_mag_is_king7mm_ultra_mag_is_king Member Posts: 676 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah we ok bee, Like I said I get wound up on some things. These things get me going in a hurry;somebody bragging a wtbyconstitutional issuestruckingcars and bikesanything that confuses me!my redheaded wifemy traitor daughter who has infected my ears with the likes of country musicmy lack of ability to be able to spell crrectlymy lack of ability to speak with such grace like clouderand like everybody else I get edgy when someone says I'm wrong when I know I'm right(I'm a truck driver so I'm never wrong, truckers know everything about everything lol) Some think I'm cockey with that user name but I did that in fun just to raz others about their fav bang bang. Anyway no use crying over spilt milkI gotta go play in the truck for a couple of days ,have fun
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Purdy good LG..Hows it goin in them hills over yonder?By the way,..where`s over yonder?.218
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  • Loud Guns And Big TrucksLoud Guns And Big Trucks Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Going good, Berkely springs ring a bell?By the way Im new to posting but have been watching for quite awhile. I knew you had a camp up here in the hillbilly state.
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Not sure where it is.Mines in Braxton County.
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    I keep a motorcycle endorsement on my license, even though I have not thrown a leg over one in several years. I doubt that I will ever own another one. The more time that passes, the more I realize how thin my skin is, and the more I value it.My riding style is more Harley than crotch rocket, and indeed, there is nothing like a Harley. Were I to buy another bike, it would be nothing but. I had one and sold it.I really don't like the crotch rockets. I don't want you not to be able to get one; I just don't like them. What I like less about them is the way I see so many of them being operated. Makes me wonder why we don't see more of them piled up, the way some of these riders run these things. And the way the bikes are made seems to encourage abuse. I am not willing to advocate banning ANYTHING. Not hyperbikes, not 4-wheelers, not waverunners. If you want one, buy one and enjoy. Just operate the thing safely and with consideration for others. When you don't, you get a knee jerk reaction from the casual observer that says, "Nobody needs those things anyway."And that is true. Nobody needs them, but that is not the point. Nobody needs a .50 caliber long range rifle. Nobody needs a 30-round capacity rifle. Nobody needs a 2-seat sports car capable of 180 mph. It isn't about need. This is America, and people should be able to have what they want. Just be aware that you have an obligation to operate your toy responsibly. If you don't, someone will be watching.
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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    How many of you have seen a group of people gathered around a Harley, admiring the chrome and custom work? OK...Now think back. How many of you have seen a group of people gathered around a "crotch rocket".......that wasn't on fire?Mudge the troublemakerJust funnin', son....just funnin'. I can't come to work today. The voices said "STAY HOME AND CLEAN THE BIKES".[This message has been edited by mudge (edited 12-19-2001).][This message has been edited by mudge (edited 12-19-2001).]
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  • dhdh Member Posts: 127 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Anybody ever seen a stroked 1947 HD with slicks and a flathead 8? That engine stuck out 18" on each side,and still had the 1947 liscence plate on it.All purple,short handle bar,and a small seat that sat on the forward spot of the rear fender.It was tough.
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