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Well,my PREBAN purchase takes a turn(LTS,Judge,Kim
Josey1
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but I'm not sure if it is for the worst.Went to the bank yesterday and took out the remaining $1195 for my NIB Bushmaster.As I walked in the store I caught a look from Steve(one of the two brothers/ shop owners),that said "Sorry but you aren't going to like this".When I get to the counter my eyes immediately go to the spot on the gun rack where the Bushy (I had arranged to buy) lived,but it wasn't there.I started looking down the massive lineup of firearms but no Bushmaster,this coupled with the fact that a usually prompt response from a least one of the 2 brothers to a customer entering the store,wasn't there.Then Steve went in the back room and out came his brother Jim,Jim proceeds to tell me that his brother had made a grevious error and sold the gun the night before.Jim said that Steve did not know that I had arranged to buy it,heck I don't know how he couldn't have I left a dang $300 deposit.
Bottom line is they were EXTREMELY sorry for the mixup.Now while I appretiate the apoligies they gave me, I told them it stll does not excuse such a lack of attention to their operations and I hinted that our relationship in commerse may have suffered.
Just as I was about to go into a "I'm a damn good customer here and you...." rant,Steve comes out from the back room with a box with a Blue label.Now like I've said,I don't know too much about these guns especially the prebans but I could tell this was some kind of peace offering.What Steve brought out was a NIB,never fired,Colt Government Carbine it was still wrapped in the plastic bag it came in and came with a certificate for 1 Colt cleaning rod (which I guess was supposed to come with the rifle but they ran out of it?).It also came with 2 NIW 20 rounders,sling and manual.Jim says it was a dealer sample that was manufactured in late 1993 and sat in his personal gun safe since.
Now for my problem,Jim said he and Steve agreed that if I gave them the original agreed amount for the Bushy,that they would substitute the Colt.My question to you is,am I getting reamed here?I can't find any info on this rifle on the internet , I did call Colt and had the Serial # verified.Is this a $1500 gun or should I find another Bushmaster,I really don't know what to do here.If anyone could help me find any info on this gun or give me an estimated value of the gun(and this deal) I sure would appretiate it.I ask you because there seems to be more knowledgeable folks in here on these guns who are not (for the most part) biased to one manufacturer or the other.Thanks again,Josey
Why must everything be so difficult?!!
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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Edited by - Josey1 on 06/05/2002 08:11:08
Bottom line is they were EXTREMELY sorry for the mixup.Now while I appretiate the apoligies they gave me, I told them it stll does not excuse such a lack of attention to their operations and I hinted that our relationship in commerse may have suffered.
Just as I was about to go into a "I'm a damn good customer here and you...." rant,Steve comes out from the back room with a box with a Blue label.Now like I've said,I don't know too much about these guns especially the prebans but I could tell this was some kind of peace offering.What Steve brought out was a NIB,never fired,Colt Government Carbine it was still wrapped in the plastic bag it came in and came with a certificate for 1 Colt cleaning rod (which I guess was supposed to come with the rifle but they ran out of it?).It also came with 2 NIW 20 rounders,sling and manual.Jim says it was a dealer sample that was manufactured in late 1993 and sat in his personal gun safe since.
Now for my problem,Jim said he and Steve agreed that if I gave them the original agreed amount for the Bushy,that they would substitute the Colt.My question to you is,am I getting reamed here?I can't find any info on this rifle on the internet , I did call Colt and had the Serial # verified.Is this a $1500 gun or should I find another Bushmaster,I really don't know what to do here.If anyone could help me find any info on this gun or give me an estimated value of the gun(and this deal) I sure would appretiate it.I ask you because there seems to be more knowledgeable folks in here on these guns who are not (for the most part) biased to one manufacturer or the other.Thanks again,Josey
Why must everything be so difficult?!!
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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Edited by - Josey1 on 06/05/2002 08:11:08
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Colt blue labels were transition guns.
They came with sear blocks, no bayo lug, and either small or large hole pivot (depending on what was available). It is hard to say if it is worth $1500. I have seen used Colt blue label carbines going for $1200 to $1600.
Sperling PE
Boomer
Protect our Constitutional Rights.
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
I am sure there is another Bushy around, have them bring it in, at the same price of the one you wanted.. and they absorb any extra charges..
Just my opinion
There is a lot of info on the web.. use google search, I find it the best... type in Colt 6520... scads of info.. selling from 795 to 1800..
Edited by - BlackRoses on 06/05/2002 09:13:34
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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What I would do is TAKE THE COLT and list it on GB starting at 2k or there abouts ... what you describe is truely collectors dream! Remember, IF the sun sets on the 94 assault weapon ban, it will suffer conciderable devaluation. I've been wrong before, but I'll be surprised if we don't see a huge dump of pre-bans just before the sunset date and prices will drop conciderably ... personally I don't think the sun set will happen, and that will be the time to buy, because when it doesn't set, PRICES WILL SKYROCKET AGAIN!
Then I would buy a preban mil-spec lower or complete weapon for $800-$1000 (PWA, DPMS and Oly come to mind) order your upper of choice, (40 or 10mm?) a quick search on GB turned up this pre-ban Oly lower for $725 http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=4177490
It will be pre-ban, so you can have all the "goodies" on it ... you'll still have about $1200-$1400 in it, but you can put $700-$1000 back in the bank to me, thats smart investing ... but thats me.
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... there are so darn many models to choose from!
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? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
If you wish to "unload" it in a year or two, let ME know. After LTS has first turndown of course. HEHE
A great rifle with a junk scope,....is junk.
Boomer
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"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Edited by - Josey1 on 06/05/2002 14:31:12
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Edited by - Josey1 on 06/05/2002 14:39:08
check Barrel twist ratio and stampings if the word "sporter" apears somewere is a $750. piece of junk ! If US series ,Air force , MarkI
delta elite or other "company" markings apear it's real stuff.!!!
If unused in new condition is better than having the money on the bank !!!!!
JD
Poor choice of destiny make thoose that for upholding the law go against the "LAW".
cpermd
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
but hey shoot that sucker.
If you want a shooter, sell this one to the highest bidder, and you will be able to buy a nice shooter and have quite a bit of change left. As was stated, using this rifle will remove one more from the NIB category. As much as I would like to shoot my NIB GC green label, I have resisted to date. Instead, I shoot my early SP1 Carbine I acquired new in the 1970s and tell myself the experience is essentially the same. At 5.8 pounds, I love these Carbines.
I do not think even if the ban is lifted that the value of pre-ban Colts will be hurt much. After all, it was Colt that voluntarily removed the bayonet lug and put in the block and big pins on its rifles before the ban. While I would hope current management would correct that error if the ban dies, I doubt it would happen. Even if it did happen, there is still the extra value associated with early issues of any particular model of gun.
And here I was hoping you would take the first Colt and let me have the Bushmaster!
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