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Great day at the range today, with the 454 and ...
robsguns
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Okay, you all know I've been trying to perfect my lead mix for casting, here is the end result, for now.
454 Casull- H110 powder 29.5 gr.; NEI bullet mold casting a 312 gr. bullet using the lead mix which I have settled on with a mix of 70% wheel weight and 30% founders type.; Remington 7 1/2 primer; Winch. 1 fired case; C.O.L. 1.770" before crimp, 1.765" after crimp; Crimped moderately with Lee Factory Crimp; Case was not trimmed because there was nothing to trim; Lee Liquid Alox Lube applied to bullets;
Results- 1 round was fired into compressed, alternating layers, of newspaper and cardboard, placed into a box and taped with duct tape to maintain compression, then soaked in water for 2 days. Bullet penetrated all 18" of compressed material and lodged 1/2" into a 4x4 pole behind the material. Very little, if any, expansion is noted. Bullet started out at 312 gr. in weight and after firing and recovering still weighed in at 287 gr., loss of 25 gr. in weight, not bad. ***Avg. velocity was 1,627 fps, extreme spread was 48 fps., avg. deviation was 13.6 fps, ft. lbs. of energy was 1,834 ft. lbs.***
I believe the lead mixture is a keeper! I have no idea what the accuracy is, I was not testing that, I was going for internal ballistic figures, velocity, and bullet performance on my test medium. I'm a happy camper.
Second thing for the shooting session was to test out my Savage project, I still needed to get the right height on my front sight post. I just ordered the correct one, this will do the project up perfectly. I gotta admit, I hate my Savage, just because I do. What really ticks me off is that this thing shoots so darn good. While I was shooting it today I did not know when the gun was going to fire, the trigger is that crisp and light, and it shot 3 rounds into 1" at 55 yds. from a crappy rest, with a totally jacked up sight picture, sun glaring off a rear sight that needed to be smoked, front sight so tall you would laugh if you saw it through the rear sight. These Savages may be ugly, but they sure can shoot. That accuracy may not sound so good to you, but if you could see what I saw when I was firing it, you'd be amazed at the accuracy. It was like trying to fire from the 500 yd. line, with an M-16, at a target you cant see, so you just center on the uprights of the target carriage. God I love this sport!
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
Edited by - robsguns on 06/15/2002 15:15:55
454 Casull- H110 powder 29.5 gr.; NEI bullet mold casting a 312 gr. bullet using the lead mix which I have settled on with a mix of 70% wheel weight and 30% founders type.; Remington 7 1/2 primer; Winch. 1 fired case; C.O.L. 1.770" before crimp, 1.765" after crimp; Crimped moderately with Lee Factory Crimp; Case was not trimmed because there was nothing to trim; Lee Liquid Alox Lube applied to bullets;
Results- 1 round was fired into compressed, alternating layers, of newspaper and cardboard, placed into a box and taped with duct tape to maintain compression, then soaked in water for 2 days. Bullet penetrated all 18" of compressed material and lodged 1/2" into a 4x4 pole behind the material. Very little, if any, expansion is noted. Bullet started out at 312 gr. in weight and after firing and recovering still weighed in at 287 gr., loss of 25 gr. in weight, not bad. ***Avg. velocity was 1,627 fps, extreme spread was 48 fps., avg. deviation was 13.6 fps, ft. lbs. of energy was 1,834 ft. lbs.***
I believe the lead mixture is a keeper! I have no idea what the accuracy is, I was not testing that, I was going for internal ballistic figures, velocity, and bullet performance on my test medium. I'm a happy camper.
Second thing for the shooting session was to test out my Savage project, I still needed to get the right height on my front sight post. I just ordered the correct one, this will do the project up perfectly. I gotta admit, I hate my Savage, just because I do. What really ticks me off is that this thing shoots so darn good. While I was shooting it today I did not know when the gun was going to fire, the trigger is that crisp and light, and it shot 3 rounds into 1" at 55 yds. from a crappy rest, with a totally jacked up sight picture, sun glaring off a rear sight that needed to be smoked, front sight so tall you would laugh if you saw it through the rear sight. These Savages may be ugly, but they sure can shoot. That accuracy may not sound so good to you, but if you could see what I saw when I was firing it, you'd be amazed at the accuracy. It was like trying to fire from the 500 yd. line, with an M-16, at a target you cant see, so you just center on the uprights of the target carriage. God I love this sport!
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
Edited by - robsguns on 06/15/2002 15:15:55
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Boomer
Dang - Two years and I am still a Junior Member.
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Edited by - Boomerang on 06/15/2002 15:27:45
Thanks for the advice, and it sounds like great advice. That is one of the criteria that encouraged me to add more hardening material to my original mixture. I kept adding until the leading was reasonalble, then tested the bullet for hardness again, not scientifically, but it worked. I dont get much leading in the barrel, not bad at all. I think the next thing I will try is to moly lube the bullets, just for kicks, to see what happens when I shoot them as far as velocities and leading goes. That will be a while though, I dont feel like screwing with a good thing just yet.
Oh, yes, almost forgot. I wonder how many rounds you'd have to fire with softer lead bullets to increase the pressure too much? I know that with the round I have I wont be planning on going out and shooting 50 rounds at a time, I have to wear a glove on my left supporting hand as it is, pesky little blood blisters, gotta learn to hold this gun differently.
SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
Edited by - robsguns on 06/15/2002 15:35:00
BTW, good shooting. What kind of .454 Casull do you have?
Boomer
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