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Sweet JESUS!!!!!! "Transgenerational Intimacy"
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My God, do the liberals WANT us to slaughter them? How vile and foul can they get? Or is it some sort of contest for them?
http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/fri/opinion/news_1e26hender.html
The paradox of the postmodern pedophile
By Anne Hendershott
April 26, 2002
As the storm surrounding the abuse scandals within the Catholic Church continues to rage, we are confronted with what appears to be a paradox.
The furor over the abuse of power by homosexual priests - most of whom have engaged in sexual relationships with teen-age boys - suggests that our cultural norms about the sexual abuse of minors are fully intact. Yet, at the same time as the panic surrounding the pedophile priest grows, a parallel movement has begun to redefine pedophilia as the more innocuous "intergenerational sexual intimacy."
The coming publication of "Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex" by the University of Minnesota Press promises a "a radical, refreshing and long overdue reassessment of how we think and act about children's and teens' sexuality." In published interviews on the University of Minnesota's Web site, author Judith Levine decries the fact that there are people "pushing a conservative religious agenda that would deny minors access to sexual expression" and adds that "We do have to protect children from real dangers. ... But that doesn't mean protecting some fantasy of their sexual innocence."
Indeed, this redefinition of childhood innocence as "fantasy" is key to the defining down of the deviance of pedophilia. Drawing upon the language of postmodern theory, those working to redefine pedophilia are first redefining childhood by claiming that "childhood" is not a biological given. Rather, it is "socially constructed - a historically produced social object." Such deconstruction has resulted from the efforts of a powerful advocacy community supported by university affiliated scholars and a growing number of writers, researchers and publishers willing to question the once taboo behavior.
One of the most often-cited sources is "Male Intergenerational Intimacy: Historical Socio-Psychological and Legal Perspectives." This collection of readings by scholars - some with U.S. university affiliations, provides a powerful argument for what they now call "intergenerational intimacy." One contributor, Ken Plummer, writes that "we can no longer assume that childhood is a time of innocence simply because of the chronological age of the child. In fact, "A child of seven may have built an elaborate set of sexual understandings and codes which would baffle many adults."
Claiming to draw upon the theoretical work of the new social historians, the socialist-feminists, the Foucauldians and "constructionist" sociologists, Plummer promises to build a "new and fruitful approach to sexuality and children." Within this new perspective, there is no assumption of linear sexual development - no real "childhood," only an externally imposed definition. He concludes, as do the contributors to the volume, that there should be "greater flexibility than is usually thought" regarding sex with very young children.
Decrying "essentialist views of sexuality," these authors attempt to remove the "essentialist" barriers of childhood. This opens the door for the postmodern pedophile to see such behavior as part of the politics of transgression. No longer deviants, they are simply "border crossers."
David Thorstad, former president of New York's Gay Activists Alliance and a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), writes that "boy-love occurs in every neighborhood today." The movement has continued to build momentum, but there have been obstacles along the way. Last year, NAMBLA found itself embroiled in a $200 million wrongful death and civil rights lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Boston. The suit claims that the writings on NAMBLA's Web site caused NAMBLA member Charles Jaynes to torture, rape and murder a 10-year-old Boston boy.
The American Psychological Association recently published a study in the Psychological Bulletin which concluded that child sexual abuse does not cause harm - and recommended that pedophilia should instead be given a "value-neutral" term like adult-child sex. NAMBLA quickly posted the "good news" on its Web site stating that "the current war on boy-lovers has no basis in science."
We now live in a culture in which man-boy sex is not only tolerated - it is celebrated in some communities. And, while male pedophilia remains contested terrain for most, woman-girl sex, because of the power of the women's movement, scarcely registers on the cultural radar screen.
"The * Monologues," for example, is now part of the standard dramatic repertory in student productions on college campuses. The play explores a young girl's "coming of age" beginning with a 13-year-old girl enjoying a sexual liaison with a 24-year-old woman.
Not only is the play receiving widespread acclaim, but those who attempt to criticize the play find themselves stigmatized. When Robert Swope, a columnist at The Hoya, Georgetown University's student newspaper, attempted to publish a critical review of "The * Monologues" when it was presented on the Catholic campus, his editors rejected the column, calling its content "divisive." He was fired when he complained about the censorship.
Pedophilia remains behavior whose status is uncertain with a semantic and ideological war being waged to determine whether or not it will remain a form of deviance. While the clergy abuse scandal would suggest that the deviant label will remain, the reality is that powerful advocates with access to university presses will continue their campaign to define down this form of deviance.
Hendershott is a professor of sociology at the University of San Diego and author of "The Politics of Deviance" (Encounter Books).
Copyright 2002 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.
I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.--Voltaire~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/fri/opinion/news_1e26hender.html
The paradox of the postmodern pedophile
By Anne Hendershott
April 26, 2002
As the storm surrounding the abuse scandals within the Catholic Church continues to rage, we are confronted with what appears to be a paradox.
The furor over the abuse of power by homosexual priests - most of whom have engaged in sexual relationships with teen-age boys - suggests that our cultural norms about the sexual abuse of minors are fully intact. Yet, at the same time as the panic surrounding the pedophile priest grows, a parallel movement has begun to redefine pedophilia as the more innocuous "intergenerational sexual intimacy."
The coming publication of "Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex" by the University of Minnesota Press promises a "a radical, refreshing and long overdue reassessment of how we think and act about children's and teens' sexuality." In published interviews on the University of Minnesota's Web site, author Judith Levine decries the fact that there are people "pushing a conservative religious agenda that would deny minors access to sexual expression" and adds that "We do have to protect children from real dangers. ... But that doesn't mean protecting some fantasy of their sexual innocence."
Indeed, this redefinition of childhood innocence as "fantasy" is key to the defining down of the deviance of pedophilia. Drawing upon the language of postmodern theory, those working to redefine pedophilia are first redefining childhood by claiming that "childhood" is not a biological given. Rather, it is "socially constructed - a historically produced social object." Such deconstruction has resulted from the efforts of a powerful advocacy community supported by university affiliated scholars and a growing number of writers, researchers and publishers willing to question the once taboo behavior.
One of the most often-cited sources is "Male Intergenerational Intimacy: Historical Socio-Psychological and Legal Perspectives." This collection of readings by scholars - some with U.S. university affiliations, provides a powerful argument for what they now call "intergenerational intimacy." One contributor, Ken Plummer, writes that "we can no longer assume that childhood is a time of innocence simply because of the chronological age of the child. In fact, "A child of seven may have built an elaborate set of sexual understandings and codes which would baffle many adults."
Claiming to draw upon the theoretical work of the new social historians, the socialist-feminists, the Foucauldians and "constructionist" sociologists, Plummer promises to build a "new and fruitful approach to sexuality and children." Within this new perspective, there is no assumption of linear sexual development - no real "childhood," only an externally imposed definition. He concludes, as do the contributors to the volume, that there should be "greater flexibility than is usually thought" regarding sex with very young children.
Decrying "essentialist views of sexuality," these authors attempt to remove the "essentialist" barriers of childhood. This opens the door for the postmodern pedophile to see such behavior as part of the politics of transgression. No longer deviants, they are simply "border crossers."
David Thorstad, former president of New York's Gay Activists Alliance and a founding member of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), writes that "boy-love occurs in every neighborhood today." The movement has continued to build momentum, but there have been obstacles along the way. Last year, NAMBLA found itself embroiled in a $200 million wrongful death and civil rights lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Boston. The suit claims that the writings on NAMBLA's Web site caused NAMBLA member Charles Jaynes to torture, rape and murder a 10-year-old Boston boy.
The American Psychological Association recently published a study in the Psychological Bulletin which concluded that child sexual abuse does not cause harm - and recommended that pedophilia should instead be given a "value-neutral" term like adult-child sex. NAMBLA quickly posted the "good news" on its Web site stating that "the current war on boy-lovers has no basis in science."
We now live in a culture in which man-boy sex is not only tolerated - it is celebrated in some communities. And, while male pedophilia remains contested terrain for most, woman-girl sex, because of the power of the women's movement, scarcely registers on the cultural radar screen.
"The * Monologues," for example, is now part of the standard dramatic repertory in student productions on college campuses. The play explores a young girl's "coming of age" beginning with a 13-year-old girl enjoying a sexual liaison with a 24-year-old woman.
Not only is the play receiving widespread acclaim, but those who attempt to criticize the play find themselves stigmatized. When Robert Swope, a columnist at The Hoya, Georgetown University's student newspaper, attempted to publish a critical review of "The * Monologues" when it was presented on the Catholic campus, his editors rejected the column, calling its content "divisive." He was fired when he complained about the censorship.
Pedophilia remains behavior whose status is uncertain with a semantic and ideological war being waged to determine whether or not it will remain a form of deviance. While the clergy abuse scandal would suggest that the deviant label will remain, the reality is that powerful advocates with access to university presses will continue their campaign to define down this form of deviance.
Hendershott is a professor of sociology at the University of San Diego and author of "The Politics of Deviance" (Encounter Books).
Copyright 2002 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.
I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.--Voltaire~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
Comments
"Not as deep as a well, or as wide as a church door, but it is enough."
"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." -Plato
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I don't care what "generation" two consenting adults are from, but there is no punishment too harsh for those who ruin the lives of the underaged, the immature, the children. I've done enough social work to know there is no such thing as a molested child who grows up unscathed by it. There is no such thing as a child who "can handle it." They all should have years of therapy as adults, with few exceptions, after being put through even the so-called milder forms of inappropriate erotic abuse. Sorry to get into this on the family board, but trying to minimize this kind of abuse stinks.
-- Life NRA Member
If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
quote: The American Psychological Association recently published a study in the Psychological Bulletin which concluded that child sexual abuse does not cause harm
Oh yes it does cause harm, to the individual who I cath doing it. That SOB will be living in my personal version of hell, in which I will transform my basement to make his last living weeks, just that.
sick f***ers
Some people just shouldn't be allowed to breed
Edited by - instrumentofwar on 04/27/2002 09:04:36
Ken
I have had to deal with the problems someone has from such kind of stuff. When adults start doing kids it produces ALL kinds of problems as the kids grom up. I know from experience in my family,
I know this much. If some $&(#@&%$(@#$%@$#*% messes with my kids, I know where every hog lot in the county is.
The second admendment GUARANTEES the other nine and the Constitution!
Frankly, I have always said that while I am a gentleman I treat others as ladies and gentlemen -- just so long as they act like them.
When people act badly, all bets are off.
Similarly, criminals often operate in what they believe is the gap between their savagery and most people's unwillingness or inability to be equally pragmatic. They will get a surprise when they get to me. I'm not talking about excessive force or going down to their level -- I just mean that the law of physics is true -- "for ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction." It's also called consequences.
-- Life NRA Member
If dishonorable men shoot unarmed men with army guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and not by general deprivation of constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
I see very little societal good anymore coming from our country's instutions of higher learning. The liberal colleges and universities are largely responsible for the declining morals and eventual downfall of this great nation.
Maybe some of the radical revolutionaries over the years who burned books, blew-up schools, executed so-called intellectuals and took their countries back to the basics weren't as far off-base as people thought.
Lord Lowrider the LoquaciousMember:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets She was only a fisherman's daughter,But when she saw my rod she reeled.
Priest gets away with his crimes because his bishop moves him around, and he commits more crimes.
Persons with degrees, but no common sense, feel that this is just the opening that they need to try to make a crime and peversion seem acceptable, and allowable to the general public.
Watch out!
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." -Plato
~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets