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halsam00halsam00 Member Posts: 79 ✭✭
edited March 2002 in General Discussion
Hello all,,,I'm new here, I often have gun questions, so I figured
this would be a good place to start. My name is Craig and I live
in a state of confusion. So many guns, and so little time.
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  • halsam00halsam00 Member Posts: 79 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    hello, i was wondering if i could get some information. I'm interested in buying a semi-auto for $500.00 or $600.00 i'd be using it for target/league and home security. Michigan passed a ccw law and i'm planning on getting one so i might be carrying it also,ut not very often. I'm leaning toward a 9mm which is the best for the money? or should i go with a different cal? any info would be great. thanks
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    Halsam00 Welcome to gunbroker, I see by your user profile that you are brand new here..This Is certainly a place you can get a lot of good advice on not only guns but a lot of other things as well. I by no means have as much hands on experience as a lot of the posters here, but I do own several Handguns from a small Beretta .22 cal Auto to A Kimber .45 Match. Of all of the guns I own my favorite is my old Military Browing Hi-Power that I bought back in the "60"s for 50 bucks just because it is cheap to shoot and It feels like I was born with it in my Hands after I put the Pachymer Signature Handgrips on it...But what SaxonPig advised you on is true, the gun has to feel good to you first of all. Lets see what Judge Colt has to say. He sounds like quite a respected authority on handguns...You can tell some of the peoples opinion by there Nickname on here or their Signature at the bottom of their Post....OTO
    KIMBER: Pistol du jour[This message has been edited by Otoman (edited 03-23-2002).]
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just want to get in a thing or two here. When carrying concealed carry, you will definitely notice when the gun is too large or too heavy to do so. It will also depend on the set up you have to carry it with. The advice you have already gotten is good. Just keep in mind that the best gun for competition, isnt usually going to be the best gun for concealed carry. You have a lot of things to think about. The size of the grip will effect your competition shooting and it will also affect its comfort when carrying concealed. Good sights are nice for shooting competition, but dont always go hand in hand with a quick reliable draw, or comfort, when carrying concealed. What I'm getting at is this. I dont know as I could recommend ONE gun for both requirements. The caliber is up to you, but what type of competition you will shoot has a factor on that too. Keep asking questions, and dont be in a hurry to buy.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • Submariner .Submariner . Member Posts: 165 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    FOR BEING A NEW USER YOU SURE AS HELL KNOW HOW TO OPEN A CAN OF WORMS HA HA!YOULL GET MANY DIFFERENT PICKS ON WHAT IS THE BEST HERE.ALL OF THEM GOOD.IT MAY BE EASIER IF YOU JUST ASKED FOR THE CRAPPY GUNS THAT ARE NOT RECCOMENDED.EVERYONE WHO SHOOTS ALOT HAS THEIR FAVORITE.MY FAVORITE IS A SIG P-226 IN .40S&W,YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND ONE ON THE AUCTION NEW FOR WHAT YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY.THE ..40 IS SUPERIOR TO THE 9MM AS FAR AS ENERGY TO THE TARGET BUT I ALSO SOMETIMES CARRY AN HK USP IN 9MM AND FEEL WELL PROTECTED.THE 357 SIG IS A GOOD ROUND BUT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO PLINK WITH AND WHETHER IT HAS MORE PUNCH THAN THE .40 IS DEPENDENT ON THE ROUND.AS FAR AS CARRY,ITS ALL UP TO YOU AND HOW YOU WILL CARRY IT.IM A BIG GUY SO I CAN CARRY MY SIG OR HK IN A STRONG SIDE HOLSTER WITH A FBI RAKE AND I CAN PULL A POLO SHIRT OVER IT AND IT CANT BE SEEN IF YOU ARE A SMALLER GUY A BIG GUN IS GONNA LOOK LIKE A GROWTH ON YOU SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR SIZE FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A RECCOMMENDATION(SP)ANY WAY WELCOME ABOARD IM SURE YOULL SOON FIND THIS SITE ADDICTIVE,I HAVE,WALT
    Truck Driver,Submarine Veteran,Rusty Wallace fan,and piss poor typist E-MAIL WNUNLEY@USIT.NET
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  • halsam00halsam00 Member Posts: 79 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ok guys i see this could go on forever(ha ha). let me be more specific, this will be my 1st handgun, i own several rifles/shotguns im a big guy 6ft 3in 260 lbs. I've been lookin on the internet, magazines and local gunshops. I dont want a compact(although there the best for carrying) i think i'll do more target/league shooting then anything else, but my father has land in upper MI so i'll probably carry there. i'm not made of money and would like an inexpensive round, but because of my size i dont want a tiny gun either. the local dealer has a ruger p-94 (used) for $469.00 i.ve looked at it twice and i like the look and feel.
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  • OtomanOtoman Member Posts: 554 ✭
    edited November -1
    dano that is a good choice I bought my son a Taurus clone for his graduation Present! He loves it, the one that he carries conceled is a Model 17 Glock. Now that is good advise that you gave the lad about the gun, as you rely on it daily in your occupation. But Please, Please, Please, don't make any reccomendations for his QUIX DRAW HOLSTER!!!!Auto P.S. you might want to persue that angel dressed in White, they make pretty good companions, I have had mine for 32 years But after you marry them they don't give you much sympathy when you get hurt...
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  • 4wheeler4wheeler Member Posts: 3,441
    edited November -1
    right on dano that is too much for a used ruger or even a new one. in my area i can get a new ruger in any caliber for $369.00 to $389.00.
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  • Submariner .Submariner . Member Posts: 165 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    THE CHEAPEST ROUND WILL BE THE 9MM-$9.95 FOR 100 AT WALLY WORLD..40 S&W IS $9.95 FOR 50.357-SIG IS $12.00 FOR 50 AT THE LOCAL GUN STORE CAUSE WALLY WORLD DONT CARRY THEM.YOULL BE ABLE TO CARRY A FULL SIZE ON YOUR FRAME WITH NO PROBLEM.NOW,YOU JUST HAVE TO GET A HOLSTER THAT YOU LIKE-CROSS DRAW,STRONG SIDE,SHOULDER RIG.......
    Truck Driver,Submarine Veteran,Rusty Wallace fan,and piss poor typist E-MAIL WNUNLEY@USIT.NET
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  • 218Beekeep218Beekeep Member Posts: 3,033
    edited November -1
    Yeah,that`s high for the Ruger..but it could be a starting price,people want a deal,so if you start at $340.,a person will want it for $260....so it is not an unfair starting price..just don`t pay it.I reduce guns by $25.to $125.all the time..218
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rugers list price for P-94 is $497 to $575.Check out the other P-Series Rugers, they are much cheaper. Of course no Gun Shop sells for Retail, but check around at other gun shops and compare to guns on the Internet. Guns on the Internet will have addional fees: S/H, FFL transfer, NICS and sales tax if purchased in the same state it is shipped to.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I used to live just down the street from you (Waterford) May I suggest that you trot on up to Fenton to do your shopping. You will find one of the largest selections and the fairest prices around.Hint: G.G.'s The big boys toy store
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  • groundhog devastationgroundhog devastation Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November -1
    Dano, How's that Beretta 92FS stack up against a baseball bat?
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  • Mr. LoboMr. Lobo Member Posts: 538 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dano, Maybe the lightweight alluminum model for ccw... Welcome halsam00, sometimes we loose tract of the thread but I would look at the 45 cal in Kimber, or Springfield Armory.Jim
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    You're lucky if you have $500 to $600 for your purchase because that will mean you have a wider array of good gun choices, but I doubt you'll find a Kimber for that. I agree with those who say the choice is yours. I personally feel that a bigger round than 9mm will suit you better. In wartime when the Nazis used it, it was thought to be marginal. Since then improvements have been made, but now that more and more police departments are moving up to a .40 or .45 I think following their lead is a good idea. A lot of people trying out guns for the first time find Glocks very "shooter-friendly." You could even find a good factory compensated model for your target work, and they're light enough to carry well. Carry isn't all about how big you are. I'm 6' and 240, and I still don't like a heavy gun digging into my hipbone for long periods. Though a bigger guy can hide a longer gun, comfort has more to do with weight and the right holster, and those are personal choices too. I envy you the enjoyment of going through this process, and keep in mind that you may need to go through a few guns before you find true love. That's okay, we've all done it. I suggest looking at a .40 or .45. You'll have a variety of inexpensive factory ammo for practice as well as a first rate selection of special purpose and defensive loads. The poster who knows your geography and suggested running up to a better shop probably has given you a great piece of advice. It's always worth a trip to a "real" gun store for serious shopping.
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  • halsam00halsam00 Member Posts: 79 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thanks for all the advice guys! Now you have me thinkin. my father just bought a para companion .45, i talked to him today and he doesn't like the feel of it,sooooo i might try to buy it off of him. I've handled it a couple of times and like it. OH and tailgunner if you haven't been to fenton latley that place has millions of guns and tons of people! which is why i'm asking questions on the internet! thanks agian guys i'll keep ya posted
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  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000 ✭
    edited November -1
    I would strongly suggest going with a bigger caliber.45 is my first choice, .40 S&W would be my second. Any top name auto will give you good service, but I would suggest you go to a range that rents handguns and try them out. Find the one that fits your hand naturally.
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ya I know how crowded it is at Guns Galore they also have a honest 1000 guns out on the display floor (new & used), but it's about the only place around that has enough choices on display for someone to make "a hands on compairison" Jays in Clare is not bad either, but thats a long drive for you.
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  • Matt45Matt45 Member Posts: 3,185
    edited November -1
    Out of 4 of the auto pistols I own, 3 are .45 ACP's, a Glock-21, an M-1911A1, and a H&K .45 USP Compact. The last is my true target pistol, a Colt Woodsman, .22LR. My feelings are, when I put a round in you, I want you to stay there and be really, really still.I've never been impressed with the 9mm, but the .40 and .357 Sig have both caught my attention, and I'd consider either one.The ammo you carry is also a factor, in .45 I'd recommend either Remington Golden Sabres, or Federal Hydroshocks, both in 230 Grains.A word on concealed carry- NO one holster will encompass all concealment scenarios, consider what would be of the most comfort to you, postion, location, ect. and then come up with an alternate. Also be aware of different concealment modes for the climate, behind the back is good for summer, but hip carry and in the waistband is better for winter. Also consider round capacity of the pistol then determine whether you need to carry a spare mag, most likely yes, mebbe two. consider the location for those as well. If you do decide to carry, I advise you to practice often and practice realistically. Target shooting is all about having fun, but be familer with how you carry your gun concealed, how you draw it, the location of your spare mags, and shot placement under stess. If you don't have a strong firearms backround in pistols, self defense law, or even if you do, it would not be out of line for you to recieve some training of the type often conducted at larger, more organized ranges.Welcome to the board!! Enjoy!
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Welcome Halsam00! White Lake huh? I used to live right by you, my family still does (White Lake and Commerce Twp). I'm in Southgate now, though.I bought a NEW Ruger P-94 on Gunbroker.com for $299 (Came to $344.50 TOTAL with shipping, FFL fee, etc.). So, the price you saw was WAY too high. You might want to head up to Double-Action (in Madison Heights) and try renting some of their pistols. It will be an inexpensive way to field test some different models to see what fits you the best.Good luck,G36
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