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Gun advocates snare rival group's name (followup)
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Gun advocates snare rival group's name
May 23, 2002
BY PAT MILHIZER SUN-TIMES SPRINGFIELD BUREAU
It was a bit bizarre when a recent statement from the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence called for more gun rights, especially since the group has rallied for 30 years against concealed weapons and wants stiffer background checks on gun sales.
But after failing to file its annual business report with the state, the Chicago-based council lost its registration to operate under that title. The name was then swiped last week by the head lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association, or ISRA. The former Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence is accusing the lobbyist of retaliation because the council blocked legislation for more gun owner's rights.
The problem started with a mailing snafu after the council moved a block down Jackson Street almost two years ago and didn't update its address with the secretary of state's business service department because it had already updated its information with another secretary of state department.
So, the council never got letters from the secretary of state reminding it to file its annual business report, necessary for businesses to remain registered. In the end, the lost mailings cost the former Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence its name.
"They have resorted to grammar school pranks . . . the ISRA is behaving like a 9-year-old child who throws a tantrum when they cannot get their way," said Beth Coolidge, chairwoman of the gun-control council. "This despicable and unethical stunt is one of many that only highlights the depth to which they will stoop to ram their agenda down the throats of the people of Illinois."
The new Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence denies wrongdoing even though the rifle association lobbyist, Todd Vandermyde, registered the new group with the secretary of state's office last week under the old name.
Vandermyde refused to respond to accusations that he used a sneaky tactic to bully the citizens group. Alison Barkley, attorney for the new council, said the move was perfectly legal and the name accurately suits the mission of the new group to increase "accessibility of firearms for self-defense."
"The new organization is not interested in the donors or the members of the old group. Just the name. The name represents it very well," Barkley said.
Lawyers for the former council are looking into legal action, but the lost name will not affect the group's fund-raising or spreading its message against gun violence.
"Even if we do get a new name it's not going to be terribly different," said Kirsten Curley, a spokeswoman for the old group. "Our membership knows who we are. The money is still going to us, not the ISRA or whatever the hell they're calling themselves these days."
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gun23.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
May 23, 2002
BY PAT MILHIZER SUN-TIMES SPRINGFIELD BUREAU
It was a bit bizarre when a recent statement from the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence called for more gun rights, especially since the group has rallied for 30 years against concealed weapons and wants stiffer background checks on gun sales.
But after failing to file its annual business report with the state, the Chicago-based council lost its registration to operate under that title. The name was then swiped last week by the head lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association, or ISRA. The former Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence is accusing the lobbyist of retaliation because the council blocked legislation for more gun owner's rights.
The problem started with a mailing snafu after the council moved a block down Jackson Street almost two years ago and didn't update its address with the secretary of state's business service department because it had already updated its information with another secretary of state department.
So, the council never got letters from the secretary of state reminding it to file its annual business report, necessary for businesses to remain registered. In the end, the lost mailings cost the former Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence its name.
"They have resorted to grammar school pranks . . . the ISRA is behaving like a 9-year-old child who throws a tantrum when they cannot get their way," said Beth Coolidge, chairwoman of the gun-control council. "This despicable and unethical stunt is one of many that only highlights the depth to which they will stoop to ram their agenda down the throats of the people of Illinois."
The new Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence denies wrongdoing even though the rifle association lobbyist, Todd Vandermyde, registered the new group with the secretary of state's office last week under the old name.
Vandermyde refused to respond to accusations that he used a sneaky tactic to bully the citizens group. Alison Barkley, attorney for the new council, said the move was perfectly legal and the name accurately suits the mission of the new group to increase "accessibility of firearms for self-defense."
"The new organization is not interested in the donors or the members of the old group. Just the name. The name represents it very well," Barkley said.
Lawyers for the former council are looking into legal action, but the lost name will not affect the group's fund-raising or spreading its message against gun violence.
"Even if we do get a new name it's not going to be terribly different," said Kirsten Curley, a spokeswoman for the old group. "Our membership knows who we are. The money is still going to us, not the ISRA or whatever the hell they're calling themselves these days."
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gun23.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Comments
Wait a minute now, I'm confused. She was talking about the way the anti-gun lobby uses tricks and schemes, right? We only have to look as far as the next state north of IL to see how unethical stunts work. The way the Dems wouldn't even bring the CCW to vote in Wisconsin.
I sugguest that the new "group" continue to do fund raising under the same name. Wouldn't that be funny as all h*** if people were giving money, thinking it was going for gun control, when it was being used to win back some of our rights? I know I'd be laughing.
And I don't see it as a dirty trick in taking the name...no more childish than her bitching about it now...like a little sore loser running to mommy and saying that he lost the game.
political agenda.They are so for red tape and complicating the system,
even they cannot keep up with it all.
If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.
The sound of a 12 gauge pump clears a house fatser than Rosie O eats a Big Mac !
At the time the real HRC sued them but lost in court,I would love to see the face of some Anti opening up that site expecting to see Sarah in all her Anti-Gun glory
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878