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RABBI DEFIES CITY OF NY ON ARMED PATROLS
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RABBI DEFIES CITY ON PATROLS
By NEIL GRAVES and KIRSTEN DANIS
June 11, 2002 -- "We'll arrest them."Despite calls from city officials for a Queens rabbi to cancel his plans for armed vigilantes to mount anti-terrorism patrols in two Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn, the clergyman said yesterday he had no intention of backing down.
"I'm 100,000 percent ready," said Rabbi Yakove Lloyd, head of the right-wing Jewish Defense Group, of his plan to patrol Borough Park and parts of Flatbush beginning Sunday evening.
"It we get arrested, so be it. We'll come out of jail and do it again."
Lloyd made his comments after both Mayor Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly condemned the plan.
"We will not tolerate vigilantes in this city," said the mayor. "The police commissioner will not tolerate it. I will not tolerate it. The community will not tolerate it. The law applies to everybody.
"We're always happy to have people volunteer with their eyes and their ears, but we will not tolerate people going around with guns in this city, acting unto themselves."
Kelly added that if his officers spot vigilantes with guns, they will crack down on them immediately.
"We're going to arrest them," the top cop said. "We will act very swiftly against any group that violates the law or try to arm themselves in violation of the law. It is not helpful at this time in our history."
But Lloyd said his armed patrols will be able to carry guns because they are peace officers and will also carry their weapons unloaded and in cases, a tactic his lawyers say is allowed by law.
"Those who carry shotguns will be about six to 12, and they will have permits to do so," the rabbi said.
Lloyd, who's based in Queens, says he has up to 200 volunteers ready to patrol the Brooklyn enclaves.
Several Jewish leaders have criticized the plan, including Assemblyman Dov Hikind (D-Brooklyn), whose district includes Borough Park.
"Don't think of coming into our neighborhoods to stir up trouble," he said. "We don't want you and we don't need you."
Lloyd said he was reacting to a "60 Minutes" interview in which jailed terrorist Abdul Rahman Yasin said he had originally planned to attack Brooklyn Jewish neighborhoods in the early 1990s before his 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/50062.htm
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
By NEIL GRAVES and KIRSTEN DANIS
June 11, 2002 -- "We'll arrest them."Despite calls from city officials for a Queens rabbi to cancel his plans for armed vigilantes to mount anti-terrorism patrols in two Jewish neighborhoods in Brooklyn, the clergyman said yesterday he had no intention of backing down.
"I'm 100,000 percent ready," said Rabbi Yakove Lloyd, head of the right-wing Jewish Defense Group, of his plan to patrol Borough Park and parts of Flatbush beginning Sunday evening.
"It we get arrested, so be it. We'll come out of jail and do it again."
Lloyd made his comments after both Mayor Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly condemned the plan.
"We will not tolerate vigilantes in this city," said the mayor. "The police commissioner will not tolerate it. I will not tolerate it. The community will not tolerate it. The law applies to everybody.
"We're always happy to have people volunteer with their eyes and their ears, but we will not tolerate people going around with guns in this city, acting unto themselves."
Kelly added that if his officers spot vigilantes with guns, they will crack down on them immediately.
"We're going to arrest them," the top cop said. "We will act very swiftly against any group that violates the law or try to arm themselves in violation of the law. It is not helpful at this time in our history."
But Lloyd said his armed patrols will be able to carry guns because they are peace officers and will also carry their weapons unloaded and in cases, a tactic his lawyers say is allowed by law.
"Those who carry shotguns will be about six to 12, and they will have permits to do so," the rabbi said.
Lloyd, who's based in Queens, says he has up to 200 volunteers ready to patrol the Brooklyn enclaves.
Several Jewish leaders have criticized the plan, including Assemblyman Dov Hikind (D-Brooklyn), whose district includes Borough Park.
"Don't think of coming into our neighborhoods to stir up trouble," he said. "We don't want you and we don't need you."
Lloyd said he was reacting to a "60 Minutes" interview in which jailed terrorist Abdul Rahman Yasin said he had originally planned to attack Brooklyn Jewish neighborhoods in the early 1990s before his 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/50062.htm
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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By Associated Press
June 11, 2002, 2:31 PM EDT
NEW YORK -- The police commissioner says New York doesn't need armed bands of citizens to protect its neighborhoods, flatly rejecting a proposal by a Jewish group to begin patrols next week.
"The department will not tolerate anyone brandishing weapons under the guise of protecting others," Commissioner Ray Kelly said Monday. "Anyone attempting to patrol the streets armed with weapons will be arrested."
On Sunday, Rabbi Yakove Lloyd, president of the right-wing Jewish Defense Group, proposed armed patrols, citing comments a suspected terrorist made on CBS' "60 Minutes" about targeting certain Jewish neighborhoods.
"Any move in this direction is counterproductive," Kelly said. "The tenor of this is wrong. We don't need this."
Lloyd said the patrols would go ahead.
"What the police commissioner does not understand is that no matter what he says ... those who have the legal right to carry firearms can carry firearms," he said.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-brf-armed-patrols0611jun11.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878