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Canada: Gun registration line flooded
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Gun registration line flooded
BY BOB BRUTON
Monday, December 30, 2002 - 07:00
Local News - Canadian gun owners being jammed by a busy Web site and telephone number have another shot at registering their weapons for Tuesday's deadline.
Federal Justice Minister Martin Cauchon announced Friday they can now simply submit a letter of intention by that date.
Det.-Const. Randy Carson of Barrie city police said the crush of people trying to register their weapons just days before the Dec. 31 deadline had overloaded the system.
"It's completely jammed, a huge problem," he said. "I've been trying to get through all (Friday) morning."
Those who own weapons were to have registration certificates by Jan. 1, 2003, which made Tuesday, Dec. 31 - New Year's Eve - the last day.
There are 1.9 million licensed gun owners in Canada. But one in four of these owners hasn't yet registered his or her guns.
Carson said he spent a good chunk of Friday trying to walk people through the system, and giving advice.
"Just keep trying to get through. I'm telling people to set their alarm for 2 a.m. and try it then," he said. "It's 24-hour Internet access."
Due to the high volume of calls and e-mails to the Canadian Firearms Centre, the federal Department of Justice has announced additional steps would be taken to allow Canadians to meet the deadline.
About 400,000 registration applications have already been submitted over the Internet.
"There is no intention of penalizing law-abiding Canadians," Cauchon said in a press release. "These special measures will provide protection to Canadians who are acting to comply with the law."
Carson said all firearms must be registered by Dec. 31.
The only exception is an antique weapon, made in 1894 or earlier.
"And you've got to be able to prove it was manufactured in 1898 and the ammunition isn't being reproduced (anymore)," he said. "A .22 (calibre rifle) from 1896 doesn't fit antique status."
Carson said there's also a great deal of confusion surrounding the gun registry. He says many who visited kiosks at shopping malls and paid $10 for a permit during the last few years still need to register it.
"They probably thought that registered the firearm and it did not," he said.
Police forces in Canada have never been big supporters of the gun registry, because most of those police deal with have illegal weapons.
"The criminal element is never going to register their firearms, whether it's handguns, rifles or shotguns," Carson said. "It just doesn't matter."
Gun owners must have a valid firearms licence to register their weapon.
Licensed gun owners trying to register their firearms or seeking application forms can now contact the Canadian Firearms Centre in writing and submit a statement setting out their intention to apply for registration.
The statement must include full name, address and valid firearms licence or Firearms Acquisition Certificate number. Those who send a statement of intention will still be required to submit a registration form for their firearms within six months.
The 1995 Firearms Act set the deadlines for the licensing of all gun owners as Jan. 1, 2001 and the registration of all guns as Jan. 1, 2003.
Licensed firearm owners who make a written statement of their intention to register their firearms will be protected under an amended grace period.
Individuals may make a statement to register, in writing only, either by e-mail to canadian.firearms@justice.gc.ca,
by fax to 1-800-411-0622, or by mail postmarked no later than Dec. 31 to P.O. 1200, Miramichi, N.B., E1N 5Z3.
On-line registration is available 24 hours a day at www.cfc.gc.ca. Application forms are also available by calling 1-800-731-4000.
Easing the process of meeting the deadline by Cauchon comes after weeks of defending the high cost of the program to Canadians.
In early December, Auditor General Sheila Fraser revealed that the gun registry, which was originally budgeted to cost the government $2 million, will cost $1 billion by 2005.
http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/webapp/sitepages/content.asp?contentid=17960&catname=Local+News
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
BY BOB BRUTON
Monday, December 30, 2002 - 07:00
Local News - Canadian gun owners being jammed by a busy Web site and telephone number have another shot at registering their weapons for Tuesday's deadline.
Federal Justice Minister Martin Cauchon announced Friday they can now simply submit a letter of intention by that date.
Det.-Const. Randy Carson of Barrie city police said the crush of people trying to register their weapons just days before the Dec. 31 deadline had overloaded the system.
"It's completely jammed, a huge problem," he said. "I've been trying to get through all (Friday) morning."
Those who own weapons were to have registration certificates by Jan. 1, 2003, which made Tuesday, Dec. 31 - New Year's Eve - the last day.
There are 1.9 million licensed gun owners in Canada. But one in four of these owners hasn't yet registered his or her guns.
Carson said he spent a good chunk of Friday trying to walk people through the system, and giving advice.
"Just keep trying to get through. I'm telling people to set their alarm for 2 a.m. and try it then," he said. "It's 24-hour Internet access."
Due to the high volume of calls and e-mails to the Canadian Firearms Centre, the federal Department of Justice has announced additional steps would be taken to allow Canadians to meet the deadline.
About 400,000 registration applications have already been submitted over the Internet.
"There is no intention of penalizing law-abiding Canadians," Cauchon said in a press release. "These special measures will provide protection to Canadians who are acting to comply with the law."
Carson said all firearms must be registered by Dec. 31.
The only exception is an antique weapon, made in 1894 or earlier.
"And you've got to be able to prove it was manufactured in 1898 and the ammunition isn't being reproduced (anymore)," he said. "A .22 (calibre rifle) from 1896 doesn't fit antique status."
Carson said there's also a great deal of confusion surrounding the gun registry. He says many who visited kiosks at shopping malls and paid $10 for a permit during the last few years still need to register it.
"They probably thought that registered the firearm and it did not," he said.
Police forces in Canada have never been big supporters of the gun registry, because most of those police deal with have illegal weapons.
"The criminal element is never going to register their firearms, whether it's handguns, rifles or shotguns," Carson said. "It just doesn't matter."
Gun owners must have a valid firearms licence to register their weapon.
Licensed gun owners trying to register their firearms or seeking application forms can now contact the Canadian Firearms Centre in writing and submit a statement setting out their intention to apply for registration.
The statement must include full name, address and valid firearms licence or Firearms Acquisition Certificate number. Those who send a statement of intention will still be required to submit a registration form for their firearms within six months.
The 1995 Firearms Act set the deadlines for the licensing of all gun owners as Jan. 1, 2001 and the registration of all guns as Jan. 1, 2003.
Licensed firearm owners who make a written statement of their intention to register their firearms will be protected under an amended grace period.
Individuals may make a statement to register, in writing only, either by e-mail to canadian.firearms@justice.gc.ca,
by fax to 1-800-411-0622, or by mail postmarked no later than Dec. 31 to P.O. 1200, Miramichi, N.B., E1N 5Z3.
On-line registration is available 24 hours a day at www.cfc.gc.ca. Application forms are also available by calling 1-800-731-4000.
Easing the process of meeting the deadline by Cauchon comes after weeks of defending the high cost of the program to Canadians.
In early December, Auditor General Sheila Fraser revealed that the gun registry, which was originally budgeted to cost the government $2 million, will cost $1 billion by 2005.
http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/webapp/sitepages/content.asp?contentid=17960&catname=Local+News
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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New Year's protest gathers steam nearing Ottawa
By SHANE HOLLADAY, EDMONTON SUN
Support is growing across Canada for a group of gun owners determined to march - guns in hand - to the doors of Parliament in protest of Canada's gun registry laws.
Led by Jarvie's 70-year-old Jim Turnbull, president of the Canadian Unregistered Firearms Owners Association, a small troupe of gun owners plans to burn gun licences and registration papers on Parliament Hill New Year's Day.
"We're going to post a proclamation on the doors of Parliament," Turnbull said.
The group plans to march onto the Parliamentary ground carrying guns, although each weapon will sport a trigger lock, Turnbull said.
They expect to be arrested, he said.
"The law takes effect at midnight, Dec. 31. We're going to be there at 9 a.m., and putting up our proclamation.
"The police say that we won't be able to do it."
Yesterday, they had nearly completed their drive from Alberta to Ottawa.
The five men, none of whom have ever been in front of a judge, according to Turnbull, stopped in Dryden, Ont., and were greeted by about 150 supporters at a local community hall. Supporters then filled a bag with money, including a fair number of $100 bills, said Turnbull.
"We're not asking for bail, because bail comes with conditions," he said, adding the money is being used as a travel fund.
The five-some has no plans to deface the door of Parliament but has "enough duct tape that Red Green would be proud of us."
Turnbull said they're meeting with Ontario Provincial Police, RCMP and Ottawa cops at their hotel room at 2:30 p.m. today.
The meeting is so police can warn them of the consequences of their planned actions, Turnbull said.
"What are they going to do, shoot us? Why not just let us on the grounds. We're not going to be scaring children, we're certainly not going to be robbing any banks.
"We are not violent. There will be no shots fired. Our guns are safe."
http://www.canoe.ca/EdmontonNews/es.es-12-30-0014.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
A GUN amnesty is planned in Manchester next year.
Boxes are likely to be installed at all police stations for three months from April for people to dump weapons.
It is hoped that the scheme will help to reduce increasing gun crime.
Plans for the amnesty, which will be part of a nationwide scheme, are being led by David McCrone, Manchester's deputy chief constable. He is chairman of the Association of Chief Police Officers' criminal use of firearms group.
He said: "The amnesty has the backing of all the chief constables and we have now written to the Home Secretary and Attorney General for their support."
During the last amnesty, police operated a "no questions asked" policy when weapons were handed over anonymously.
The previous amnesties happened in 1987 after the Hungerford massacre and 10 years later when Thomas Hamilton went on the rampage in Dunblane. They resulted in more than 60,000 weapons being handed in.
In Greater Manchester, more than 400 weapons and 16,000 rounds of ammunition were surrendered. Among the guns were 100 pistols, 22 rifles and 80 shotguns, some with illegal sawn-off barrels.
The planned amnesty comes as new laws are being drawn up to outlaw the carrying of replica firearms and to force manufacturers to use designs which will prevent them from being converted into usable weapons.
http://www.blacknet.co.uk/Whats_New_v2.0/Whats_New_v2.0.cgi?v=news&c=Stop_Press&id=1230102104012
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878