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Gun ban details not yet sorted out
By Kiley Miller
The Hawk Eye
WEST BURLINGTON - Pepper spray is not a lethal weapon, but guns are another story.
That's the way Police Chief Gary Walters interprets the city's new ordinance banning weapons in municipal buildings.
Gun rights advocates had suggested because of the broad wording of the ordinance passed Monday by the City Council, women would face 30 days in jail and a $200 fine if they accidentally brought a can of pepper spray into City Hall in their purses.
"Pepper spray would not be a violation," Walters said.
The ordinance prohibits weapons and firearms in any structure "owned, leased or occupied by the city."
According to Iowa law, a weapon "must be capable of inflicting death or serious injury upon a human being."
Pepper spray is not lethal, according to Walters. Nor is it a firearm, defined in the ordinance as a device or instrument designed to propel a projectile through explosive, mechanical or electrical means.
Mayor Hans Trousil signed the ordinance Wednesday, but it will not take effect until it's published in the next two weeks.
Walters said he is unsure how the ordinance ultimately will be enforced.
"I guess we haven't really had an idea yet," he said.
At one time, police officers did search every person at the City Council meetings because of reports that a man was carrying a firearm illegally.
"I don't know if Trousil is going to have us do that or not," Walters said.
Walters has contacted security guards at federal and state buildings to learn their techniques.
Trousil said city officials will meet with Walters in the next few weeks to create a policy for enforcing the gun ban.
"I guess the way the ordinance is written, it could be up to the police chief or an officer in charge," Trousil said.
Steve Kershner of Burlington asked the council at Monday's meeting to define "occupy," as it relates to the ordinance.
Kershner is a volunteer hunting safety instructor at Southeastern Community College. He was concerned about conducting a class simultaneous to the council's attendance at SCC functions.
"Would I be arrested then?" Kershner asked.
Walters said there would not be a conflict if the hunting classes were not in the same area as city officials.
Kershner is still unappeased.
"It's rules by fools, that's what I always say," Kershner said. "They don't have guns, so they don't want anyone else to have them."
http://www.thehawkeye.com/daily/stories/ln13_0928.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
By Kiley Miller
The Hawk Eye
WEST BURLINGTON - Pepper spray is not a lethal weapon, but guns are another story.
That's the way Police Chief Gary Walters interprets the city's new ordinance banning weapons in municipal buildings.
Gun rights advocates had suggested because of the broad wording of the ordinance passed Monday by the City Council, women would face 30 days in jail and a $200 fine if they accidentally brought a can of pepper spray into City Hall in their purses.
"Pepper spray would not be a violation," Walters said.
The ordinance prohibits weapons and firearms in any structure "owned, leased or occupied by the city."
According to Iowa law, a weapon "must be capable of inflicting death or serious injury upon a human being."
Pepper spray is not lethal, according to Walters. Nor is it a firearm, defined in the ordinance as a device or instrument designed to propel a projectile through explosive, mechanical or electrical means.
Mayor Hans Trousil signed the ordinance Wednesday, but it will not take effect until it's published in the next two weeks.
Walters said he is unsure how the ordinance ultimately will be enforced.
"I guess we haven't really had an idea yet," he said.
At one time, police officers did search every person at the City Council meetings because of reports that a man was carrying a firearm illegally.
"I don't know if Trousil is going to have us do that or not," Walters said.
Walters has contacted security guards at federal and state buildings to learn their techniques.
Trousil said city officials will meet with Walters in the next few weeks to create a policy for enforcing the gun ban.
"I guess the way the ordinance is written, it could be up to the police chief or an officer in charge," Trousil said.
Steve Kershner of Burlington asked the council at Monday's meeting to define "occupy," as it relates to the ordinance.
Kershner is a volunteer hunting safety instructor at Southeastern Community College. He was concerned about conducting a class simultaneous to the council's attendance at SCC functions.
"Would I be arrested then?" Kershner asked.
Walters said there would not be a conflict if the hunting classes were not in the same area as city officials.
Kershner is still unappeased.
"It's rules by fools, that's what I always say," Kershner said. "They don't have guns, so they don't want anyone else to have them."
http://www.thehawkeye.com/daily/stories/ln13_0928.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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September 27, 2002, 8:05 PM EDT
TRENTON, N.J. -- A new ad targets Republican U.S. Senate candidate Douglas Forrester's positions on gun control and prescription drug coverage for seniors.
The television spots will begin airing in New York, Philadelphia and New Jersey markets Friday night. They were paid for by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
The ad tell viewers Forrester's "dangerous plan for guns and seniors are wrong for New Jersey."
Forrester opposes longer waiting periods for buying guns and providing blanket prescription coverage for all seniors.
Democrats would not disclose how long the ads will be on the air or how much the spots cost.
Copyright c 2002, The Associated Press
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-nj--senaterace-ad0927sep27.story
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Oversight board says efforts help thwart spread of cheap firearms
By Jonathan D. Rockoff
Sun Staff
Originally published September 28, 2002
Members of the Handgun Roster Board, whose effectiveness Republican gubernatorial candidate Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. has questioned, said yesterday that the panel is essential in preventing cheap handguns from spreading across Maryland.
"It's been effective in ensuring good quality control on guns sold in Maryland," said Maryland State Police Col. David B. Mitchell, chairman of the 11-member panel that regulates handgun sales in Maryland. "You don't see junk being sold" anymore, he said.
Mitchell, the top-ranking state police officer, said in an interview that the resulting removal of Saturday night specials and other cheap, easily hidden handguns has contributed to a 41 percent decline in gun crimes during the past eight years.
The board was thrust into the spotlight this month after Ehrlich said he wanted to "review" it and another gun control program to see if they were worthwhile.
His rival, Democrat Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, and gun control advocates made an issue of the remarks, asserting Ehrlich wanted to abolish the board and generally try to reverse Maryland's strict gun laws. Ehrlich denied those assertions.
The little-known board -- established in 1990 to curb the spread of small, cheap handguns found frequently at crime scenes -- decides whether thousands of handguns can be legally sold in Maryland every year.
Yesterday, the panel, which meets about every six weeks at State Police Headquarters in Reisterstown, unanimously approved guidelines that will require every handgun sold in Maryland and manufactured after Dec. 31 to have a permanent gun lock, known as an integrated mechanical safety device.
For two years under Maryland law, handguns sold in the state have had to have an external safety lock. But those can be removed.
Six members, just enough to make a quorum, attended the 35-minute meeting. For much of the meeting, a projector displayed a remark by Townsend: "It is easier to child-proof a gun than to gun-proof a child."
Victor Merkel, who owns a sporting-goods shop in Cumberland that sells guns, complained that attendance was a persistent problem and said the board violated the constitutional right to bear arms.
But he added, "I think it's very effective in doing away with Saturday night specials."
The governor appoints board members to four-year terms. The members represent a variety of interests, including the police, gun manufacturers and anti-gun advocates.
Dario Broccolino, a deputy state's attorney in Howard County, said the board's work reviewing handguns was "tedious" and the board almost always approves the weapons for sale without discussion.
"But I think that is a good thing, because the work of the board in establishing guidelines has made manufacturers know not to submit a gun if it doesn't cut the mustard," Broccolino said.
Laverne Turner, a retired teacher from Baltimore who is a member, said: "It is effective. We put in place certain rules and regulations for approving a gun. And if it does not fit those guidelines, I don't vote for it."
Copyright c 2002, The Baltimore Sun
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"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
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Reporter Allison Hatcher.
As election day nears, political candidates are stumping for votes whenever and wherever they can.
That was the case in Smyrna Saturday where a few big name candidates dropped in at the "Friends of NRA Fundraiser". "I'm not passing out tokens, kissing babies or giving out cigars." said congressional candidate Robert Garrison laughing. Robert Garrison is one of the few political candidates at this fundraiser not thinking politically.Conversely, gubenatorial candidate Van Hillary said, "I'm going to shake as many hands as I can between now and the election."
Lamar Alexander and gubenatorial candidate Van Hillary were the two biggest names on the invitation list, but organizers say that didn't make them any more welcome. NRA chairman Buford Tune insisted, "There is absolutely no politics involved here." He went on to say that the funds from the banquet tickets, silent auctions, and games will support local NRA chapters accross the country.But many NRA supporters said they didn't mind the candidates using the event for their own gain.
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"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878
Actor Alec Baldwin raises money for Moe, Wellstone
Patricia Lopez
Star Tribune
Published Sep 29, 2002 MOE29
Minnesota politics took an edgy turn Saturday night when Republicans staged an in-your-face protest outside the Fine Line Cafe in downtown Minneapolis, where Hollywood celebrity Alec Baldwin appeared at a DFL fundraiser for gubernatorial candidate Roger Moe and U.S. Sen. Paul Wellstone.
Baldwin, an outspoken liberal and a supporter of the controversial animal rights activist group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, has become a lightning rod for Republican criticism and often draws protests at appearances across the country.
On Saturday, about 16 to 20 Minnesota College Republicans and staff members from Republican U.S. Senate candidate Norm Coleman's campaign stood in the rain in front of the Fine Line, chanting "Deport Baldwin" and waving signs that said "Paul Wellstone, bad for Minnesota farmers" and "Baldwin and PETA -- udderly ridiculous."
DFLers were infuriated, saying that as pointed as campaigns get, seldom do candidates protest one another's fundraisers.
"This is so un-Minnesotan," said Randy Schubring, chairman of the DFL party's Fourth District, as a pickup truck plastered with Coleman signs pulled up and a man with a red T-shirt featuring Wellstone as Lenin jumped out.
"Coleman's sunk to a new low," he said. "I'm all for free speech, and if they want to protest they can, but they don't have to get in people's faces like this."
Police were called and told protesters they could not block the entry, but no arrests were made and the protesters remained outside for the entire two-hour event.
Inside, Baldwin delivered a fiery speech railing against Republicans and told a packed crowd of several hundred that "you have a senator who is an iconic figure to Democrats across the country."
Republicans, he said, are trying to define Americans as only those who support the president, pledge allegiance and salute the flag. "What an American really is -- Paul Wellstone gets it," he said. "He gets that government should do its best for all Americans, that it should do the most for the most it can."
He criticized "muscular, conservative" media outlets such as Fox News and the Drudge Report for jumping on the war bandwagon. Had a Democratic administration been in charge on 9/11, he said, "you'd see a banner across the bottom of Fox -- 'Osama at large, Day 30, Day 40.' This administration's answer is, we can't find Osama? Let's go get Saddam."
Talking to reporters later, Baldwin said he is dogged by Republican protesters at many stops. Often, he said, they hand out fake airline tickets -- as protesters did Saturday -- claiming that Baldwin once said he'd leave the country if George W. Bush became president.
Baldwin said he once joked that if Bush senior became president "it might be a good time to leave the country." Ever since, he said, Republicans have circulated the fake tickets at his appearances. Baldwin said he is a vegetarian and supports PETA's opposition to animal research that could be replaced by computer modeling and other means. But, "I part with some in PETA who oppose all [animal-based] medical research."
He said he does not consider himself or PETA anti-farmer or anti-agriculture. "Agribusiness? That's a big difference," he said.
The fundraiser, which featured DFL gubernatorial candidate Roger Moe, was expected to raise $100,000, said DFL Party chair Mike Erlandson. Wellstone did not attend.
-- Patricia Lopez is at
>plopez@startribune.com.
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/3333452.html
"If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of a constitutional privilege." - Arkansas Supreme Court, 1878