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Sar 3 vs cetme vs fal

mdcacmdcac Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
edited July 2002 in General Discussion
hey gang.

i have a problem. i need a gun that shoots domestic ammo. i have an sar 1, sks and nagant and a .22 (the only round made domestically. I may be a bit paronoid but given the geopolitical environment we now live i think it would be good to have something that shoots stuff made here. the sar 3, cetme and fal are among my initial thoughts. i want something that i can get shoot cheap and have plenty of mags out there. not sure how available sar 3 mags are. i welcome any advice. thanks.
mdcac
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  • armyboyarmyboy Member Posts: 11 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    ello
    dude you can get great cheap ammo from www.cheaperthandirt.com or www.sportmansguide.com
    i got mine from there i stock them when it is cheap. i mean great place to get exotic or hard to find mag tooo.
    hope you find what you want.

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  • LowriderLowrider Member Posts: 6,587
    edited November -1
    Get the FAL.

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  • dads-freeholddads-freehold Member Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    greetings, iagree with lowrider the fn-fal is probably the best 308 on the market for the price, even at double the price it's better choise than the m-16.the ammo is readly availible, not cheap but there. one other thing it is is heavy, 130rds , 4 mags & rifle will be well over 50lbs , the sar 130rds and 4 mags is a little over 30 lbs. myself i go with the ak , still both are good choices. respt submitted dads-freehold

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  • mdcacmdcac Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what arguement would you make for the FAL over the others?
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just sent off a check to www.aimsurplus.com for a good-very good condition complete CETME rifle .308win. $299.99 not bad.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

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  • dads-freeholddads-freehold Member Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    greetings again, i don't know if you addressed this question to lowrider or me, but i'll atempt and answer, first the fal has seen combat in every enviorment with good results. it has a modular design that is user friendly, it field strips fairly easy (the ak is the easiest). it tolerates dirt and humidity (again the ak is better),it isn't as lite as some 7-9lbs. it has a good muzzel site and a fair peephole breach site. it compensates good under battery . it has a milled reciever that is almost indestrutible. respt submitted dads-freehold

    rodney colson
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The CETME became the G3 action which became the MP5 action. I would not feel poorly armed with a CETME, and they're not too heavy. I'm still looking for a reasonably priced, excellent shooting condition G3 carbine myself. I agree a .308 would be easy to load even during civil chaos -- but so would my type 56S Norinco (AK-47). It's just a question, I guess, of how much round I think I need. And of course it's nice to have a backup. No point in having a thousand rounds tucked away for a gun that breaks when the balloon goes up. But then you'd want something in the same caliber. It's one reason I'd also like to own a mini-30 -- or maybe an SKS paratrooper if it's been modified for AK mags.

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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That reminds me, I have to call my gun dealer tomorrow and ask what he wants for a shorty SKS I saw in there a few weeks back. Might make a nice cheap backup.

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  • FitzFitz Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Look, I'm no expert, and I certainly don't pretend to be, but if the experts here at G.B. suggest that you look at the FAL, go a step further and look at the D.S.A (the American-made F.A.L.). It's a pure quality weapon (my brother-in-law has one) and far better than the F.A.L. Go here: http://www.dsarms.com/ (Admin, please don't kill this URL, it's good for the U.S.)

    Fitz
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  • dads-freeholddads-freehold Member Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    greetings, to likestoshoot, the fal is not a h&k clone(don't know about the cetme) but the fal was before the german g-1 entry of h&k. there are basic differences begining with the receiver (fal- milled)(g-1, stamped). lockups on both somewhat different, german over enginenerring vs the more practical belgian. then again the fal is the mule when it comes to kicking. personally the 308 has a tendancy to over penetrate, so tho i like the fal , i usually hunt with the 223 mini or the 7.62 sks in tenn , ga , fla, nc ,and sc if you can see 300 yards you an'it in the woods your in the mall. respt submitted dads-freehold

    rodney colson
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  • steve45steve45 Member Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Liketoshoot, I have an HK clone and it kicks less than my M1a or my L1A1. It is the only rifle with a muzzle break and not a flash suppressor. Recoil is noticably less.
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  • mdcacmdcac Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yeah i already have an sks paratrooper modified to take high caps and with a folding stock. i am definitly a fan of the 7.62x39 and like the fact that i have 2 guns that shoot the same ammo and it cheap enough that i can load up on it. however it still seems like a good idea to get something domestic. i just dont know weather to go 308 or 223. they are very different rounds and an sar 3 and fal/cetme are very different guns. sure wish i had the money to buy both. keep the ideas coming. oh what the difference between 308 nato and 308 win. and is it ok to shoot 308 win out of gun intended for the nato stuff.
    thanks
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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    What about a Mini-14 or Mini-30. Or an AR for that matter?

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  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Heck if boiled down to it, in an urban enviroment, a M1 .30carbine with a choate pistol gripped stock and a tac-light, would probably be the best performer.

    If I was in farm country with open fields, I'd probably get a good old M1 Garand.

    If I'm wrong please correct me, I won't be offended.

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