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Cops force soldiers to lick urine off ground
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a couple meat heads use a power trip.
Don
Who do you believe?
Well since one of the LEO's was fired, and the other reprimanded, I'll go with the Chief LEO's opinion that the young cops were guilty.
I think these two soldiers will handily win their suit.
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If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic.
While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic.
+1
The two GI's would have been justified in using force against the out of control cops. They should have kicked thier *.
It should of ended with the Soldiers making those punks behind a badge lick blood off the ground while it was dripping from their face.
While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic.
I greatly pains me to say, but I agree with you 100%.
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quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
The two GI's would have been justified in using force against the out of control cops. They should have kicked thier *.
It should of ended with the Soldiers making those punks behind a badge lick blood off the ground while it was dripping from their face.
More brave internet talk. Then the two soldiers would have been charged with felony assault on police officers, if not just shot right there, and the cops' original actions would have been covered up and the two soldiers land in jail or dead. I do agree they should not have complied and just taken the citations and fought it in court. But, seeing as how one cop was fired and the other reprimanded, the story rings true.
quote:Originally posted by MVP
quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
The two GI's would have been justified in using force against the out of control cops. They should have kicked thier *.
It should of ended with the Soldiers making those punks behind a badge lick blood off the ground while it was dripping from their face.
More brave internet talk. Then the two soldiers would have been charged with felony assault on police officers, if not just shot right there, and the cops' original actions would have been covered up and the two soldiers land in jail or dead. I do agree they should not have complied and just taken the citations and fought it in court. But, seeing as how one cop was fired and the other reprimanded, the story rings true.
Cops acting outside the color of law are not protected by it. You are presuming that these two GI's weren't equally or better matched then the two cops. It could have easilly wound up with two unconcous cops and the two GI's beat it out of there.
While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic.
Ahh, So what would you tell a citizen to do, when punk cops try to force them to obey a dumb police order and who then threaten to make up a charge of burglary? Fight the cops and then end up arrested for felony assault on a police officer, or end up dead and the cops can then make up any story they want to cover their original actions? The cops are the pathetic ones. All three cops should have been arrested and should be in jail. I hope the soldiers sue all three and the dept into poverty.
What matters most is they ARE citizens of this great Nation and NO citizen should be treated in this manner.
WTH is wrong with these LEO's? Had they been watching the movie Super Bad before going on duty?
NS
Go to a faraway training and start trouble. Your in Wi. from Tn. and training is over in 1 mo. court is in 3 mos. lasts 1 eeek all out of your pocket.Lose job for to much time off.
*ELL do what your told then come back with lawyers. "Revenge is sweet"
19 & 20 YO LEO's? their lucky the NG's didn't beat the snot of them....
Don
You have to remember they were NG's. When I was in the Army, we called them "Nasty Girls".[:D][:D]
quote:Originally posted by dongizmo
19 & 20 YO LEO's? their lucky the NG's didn't beat the snot of them....
Don
You have to remember they were NG's. When I was in the Army, we called them "Nasty Girls".[:D][:D]
We did too, but it's not the same game anymore.
Don
19 & 20 YO LEO's? their lucky the NG's didn't beat the snot of them....
Don
The reason why the soldiers DIDN'T is because they have a sense of honor and discipline. If I were in the same situation, I would have taken the ticket and then contested it in court. That would've looked worse for the "cops." Those "cops" deserve to burn....literally. No one should EVER be allowed to treat Veterans that way.
quote:Originally posted by P228
quote:Originally posted by MVP
quote:Originally posted by chappsyny
The two GI's would have been justified in using force against the out of control cops. They should have kicked thier *.
It should of ended with the Soldiers making those punks behind a badge lick blood off the ground while it was dripping from their face.
More brave internet talk. Then the two soldiers would have been charged with felony assault on police officers, if not just shot right there, and the cops' original actions would have been covered up and the two soldiers land in jail or dead. I do agree they should not have complied and just taken the citations and fought it in court. But, seeing as how one cop was fired and the other reprimanded, the story rings true.
Cops acting outside the color of law are not protected by it. You are presuming that these two GI's weren't equally or better matched then the two cops. It could have easilly wound up with two unconcous cops and the two GI's beat it out of there.
Very true, but try to prove it when the call goes out of two cops down and every cop in the county shows up looking to shoot the guys who put the two cops down. Real easy to wind up dead, with no way to prove you were in the right all along. And cops have a real nasty habit of wrongly shooting people and getting away with it. (NYPD in particular is good at it.)
quote:Originally posted by lt496
While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic.
Ahh, So what would you tell a citizen to do, when punk cops try to force them to obey a dumb police order and who then threaten to make up a charge of burglary? Fight the cops and then end up arrested for felony assault on a police officer, or end up dead and the cops can then make up any story they want to cover their original actions? The cops are the pathetic ones. All three cops should have been arrested and should be in jail. I hope the soldiers sue all three and the dept into poverty.
What the hell is your point?
There is no duty, or need, to obey a cop just because the cop says to do something, which happens to be blatantly unlawful.
Here is a concept, flatly refuse to comply with the stupid order and let Officers Spanky, Skippy and Stupid do what they think they need to do and make them live with the consequences.
Did they not teach you in the Academy that your authority is based on law? In this case, there was nothing lawful about the order, instruction, or bullying tactic, period.
Neither did you see me state that the "soldiers" should attack the cops. I simply said:
"While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic."
That reads pretty simply, don't you think?
Good Lord!
quote:Originally posted by lt496
While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic.
I greatly pains me to say, but I agree with you 100%.
It pains me greatly to have you say it also, but it is what it is.[:o)]
I honestly could care less that the kids were soldiers/veterans.
What matters most is they ARE citizens of this great Nation and NO citizen should be treated in this manner.
WTH is wrong with these LEO's? Had they been watching the movie Super Bad before going on duty?
NS
Nope, it is a sign of the "new breed" of "LEO", rather than someone with a "peace officer" outlook.
One is focused on "reasonable and just" keeping of the peace, enforcing laws only as necessary to meet that mission. The other is all about an enforce it if it is "the law" mentality, coupled with a growing sense of entitlement.
There is a distinct difference.
Everyone who turned a blind eye to that BS earlier was a fool to think it wouldn't eventually do so.
Write me up, Skippy, and I'll see you in court. I ain't licking the ground.
quote:Originally posted by P228
quote:Originally posted by lt496
While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic.
Ahh, So what would you tell a citizen to do, when punk cops try to force them to obey a dumb police order and who then threaten to make up a charge of burglary? Fight the cops and then end up arrested for felony assault on a police officer, or end up dead and the cops can then make up any story they want to cover their original actions? The cops are the pathetic ones. All three cops should have been arrested and should be in jail. I hope the soldiers sue all three and the dept into poverty.
What the hell is your point?
There is no duty, or need, to obey a cop just because the cop says to do something, which happens to be blatantly unlawful.
Here is a concept, flatly refuse to comply with the stupid order and let Officers Spanky, Skippy and Stupid do what they think they need to do and make them live with the consequences.
Did they not teach you in the Academy that your authority is based on law? In this case, there was nothing lawful about the order, instruction, or bullying tactic, period.
Neither did you see me state that the "soldiers" should attack the cops. I simply said:
"While the officers reported actions are reprehensible, the fact that these two 'soldiers' actually complied with such a ridiculous directive/threat removes every bit of sympathy for them from the equation.
If true, fire/charge the officers, but anyone who would comply with such a "police order" is an idiot of the highest order and is worthy of contempt IMO.
Pathetic."
That reads pretty simply, don't you think?
Good Lord!
Yes, they taught us where our authority comes from. They also tried to pound into everyone's head that the officer is always right and the "civilians" (their term) WILL obey you. That is what the problem with modern American police depts is. The Thin Blue Line Mentality and militarization has basically wrecked the American police system. There are just way too many badge and gun heavy types as cops anymore, and most depts will cover for them, not matter what they do.
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Sounds like five totally screwed up people to me. I hope they were all drunk, because I'd hate to think they act like that when they're sober.
I think that town needs a dungaree liberty.
I can't imagine that anybody in their right mind would comply at gunpoint and believing their life was in danger. I damn sure can't imagine anybody would comply under threat of a ticket.
Sounds like five totally screwed up people to me. I hope they were all drunk, because I'd hate to think they act like that when they're sober.
I think that town needs a dungaree liberty.
I agree...to quote the Rabbi inspecting the butcher shop: "oy! something is not kosher here"
It just seems weird...I would take the ticket and then go to court and make the cops look like asshats