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Dammit, This is IT!

BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
edited March 2002 in General Discussion
I've been procrastinating and delaying and rationalizing for months now.And please understand, this is very difficult for me to say in public.I made up my mind to join the Army several months ago. The only problem is, I've been the same weight, approx. 25 pounds overweight, in fact, since I hit 6'0 tall at age 15.And regardless of whether I can take out a squirrel's eye at 300 yds, make plastic explosive out of mothballs and bleach, or kill a man with my bare hands, I still have to be within the weight/body fat regs to make it in.I've just started realizing in an acute way that if this is going to happen for me, I need to drop the hammer and really do something about making it happen.I've already gotten some very sage and useful advice from a boardmember here, but if anyone has anything else at all that they might be able to offer, (and I mean anything) please do so.Resolve and apathy cannot live under the same roof.
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  • Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Stop eating,drink lots of water,exercise.
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  • simonbssimonbs Member Posts: 994 ✭
    edited November -1
    Get off your PC and spend the same amount of time burning calories. Even if you just walk instead of type it'll make a big difference.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Get exercise, like start running every day, just a mile or so at first, then work up to 5 miles a day. ABSOLUTELY no snacks, no fast food joints and no fried foods. Do this and in a month you'll be able to look yourself in a mirror and be proud of yourself. And besides you'll feel better than you ever have in your life.
    PC=BS
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  • Captain 241Captain 241 Member Posts: 377 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can not speak for you but STAY AWAY for all those fast food places. Try home cooking for a change. Veggies work wonders. Drink lots of WATER. Gallons, and take a walk.
    If you need a Second Shot, YOU NEED MORE PRACTICE
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  • v35v35 Member Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Limit yourself to no more than 1500 calories per day. Eat nothing after supper.Once you get in, the rest of the fat will disappear in eight weeks of basic training or sooner.
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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Your drill sergeant is going to take another thirty off of you.He is going to do that with three squares a day, And NO GOODIES.He is also going to run you every were you go.So you might as well start that on your own now, And also use all of the above advice.The reason I know what he is going to do,Is because I was one.DROP AND GIVE ME FIFTY.Get use to that also.
    A unarmed man is a subject.A armed man is a citizen.
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    That's what I figure.If I can get past the entry requirments, Basic should take the rest of it out of me.
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  • twinstwins Member Posts: 647 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I went to a dietician and she set up a diet of 2000 calories a day for me (after logging my food intake for about a week). Before the diet I was eating between 3000 to 3200 calories a day. I thought I would starve but in fact could not eat all of the food on that diet in one day. It is what you eat that makes the most difference. H20, exercise and will power make the rest up.Most important, exercise, eat healthy foods, drink H20, stay away form fats, sodas and empty calories. Limit your daily fat grams to 20 or less (25 is average)and that will help.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Didn't know 20 pounds made a difference! A buddy of mine went into the Marines purposely fat. The fat didn't last too long!!Is there some kind of a height-to-weight chart?? Those are nonsense. 99% of NFL players exceed the weights on those charts. Why? Muscle weighs more than fat.
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  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Member Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep Timber, there are charts, and bean counters to read them. I came OUT of Parris Island 2 lbs shy of what the "optimum" max weight of someone as tall as I am.Bullseye, cut th weight now, and get used to running, cause if you are built big, you will have to run to make the weight the charts say you should be.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    That surprises me, Varmintist! I've never met one of those charts that I could pass, but my body fat is only 7%. 5'10", 200 lbs., which bobs between 190 and 205. Waist is still 34, since high school. That mean I would have gotten out of the draft for VN? I graduated in '75, so I wasn't drafted. I was the same size/weight then. I'd think the military of all places would make exceptions for people made like bulldogs instead of greyhounds!
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  • mcneely77mcneely77 Member Posts: 411 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I first went in, in 1986 I was 24 pounds overweight. The mepps station in Chicago took me anyway. I was within military standards in three weeks. Once you get in, they will tape you for body fat content. It won't help you get in, but once your in, the tape helps.
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  • cpilericpileri Member Posts: 447 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    iF YOU ARE enlisting, they may not take the time to tape measure you- but they will for officers (did in my case).I am a towering 5'8" and 230lbs, but my big ol' muscled neck gets me through.Add weight lifting to your program- concentrate on making the neck larger, and the waist smaller. Its the ratio that counts!Later, do all the functional exercises for whole-body fitness.Carl
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    With all the above adivice, here is mine. If you have always been heavy, and are at 18, consider what it will take you to stay within standards past 18. I am constantly on guard of my weight, the standards are no joke, and the Army has finally seen the light, they're talking of makeing their standards more strict than they currently are, thats TALK. I want to tell you right now, the weight thing is no bull. It will get you kicked out of the Corps, faster than ***, and I dont believe the Army will be playing with it either. If you think getting down to your weight is a problem, you better think long and hard about joining the Army, and having to maintain it, 24/7/365. Some people just do not have the body chemistry to do so, I dont care what anyone says. The body fat chart they use is complete bull,so be prepared for the future. I suggest you lose the weight, and see how hard it is for you to maintain that weight for about 6 months, prior to entering the military, if you think it will be a very big problem for you.
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC[This message has been edited by nunn (edited 03-26-2002).]
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  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    See the Marine recruiter, our weight entrance is alot easier because we have a long * boot camp to take it off of you.P.S.-It works!!!!!!
    There is no apology for self defense. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • pikeal1pikeal1 Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November -1
    Bullz, First off, good to know that your joining the service.If you want to drop off some weight, a little exercise is all you need. Hell, I started playing softball one day a week and I've dropped a few pounds in a month just by doing that.here are some more tips:Eat fewer carbs, and NO SNACKS. It will take a few days, but your body will get used to not having that sugar rush from soda or candy...after a while, you'll reach for a bottle of water before reaching for candy.If you can do some exercise in the morning, your body will be most efficient during that time, and try not to have diner too late. Your body won't have a chance to burn off all those calories.Eat smaller meals, but eat more often. This is very important. Try to have about five meals a day. This will help speed up your metabolism, and will help your body burn more energy, even when your sleeping. The last thing would be some supplements. There are a few out that will help your body by raising your body temperature and helping to raise your metabolism. Don't take them if you have a heart condition, or if you are under any other type of medication. I personally take rip fuel, but I've used Xenadrine and a combination of Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Asprin. Not sure if you can find Ephedrine on its own up in NY...they pulled it off the shelves down in S. Flarda.My suggestion is to go to a gym or supplement store and get more info on these or other types...but the most important factors are to watch what you eat, and make sure you get some exercise. Lift some weights, as the muscle you build will help burn the fat as well.I worked out for a while, and became familiar with a lot of supplements, and routines and the like, if you need anything feel free to ask.Pikeal01@bellsouth.netI'm no expert, but I know that I've been in the same situation as you, and got results.Best of luck budAlex
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  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,078 ******
    edited November -1
    "Body Solutions."
    Certified SIG pistol armorer/FFL Dealer/Full time Peace Officer, Moderator of the General Discussion Board on Gunbroker. Visit www.gunbroker.com, the premier gun auction site on the Net! Email davidnunn@texoma.net Jesus is Lord!
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye--Robsguns just gave you some excellent advice. I know people that struggle with maintaining their weight throughout their entire Army career. Most that have to struggle quit after their first enlistment because it just isn't worth it to them anymore. Americans have gained more weight in the 1990's than in the previous two decades combined. Therefore, the military has an overweight pool from which to draw applicants. Last summer I met a very intelligent and muscular gentelman that wanted to join the Army in the worst way. I met him at 6am and 9pm every day for three weeks for a 1.5 mile run each time. He dropped about 12 pounds but his mother was feeding him very well because her boy needed to be spoiled before going off to basic training. There is a height and weight table but there is also a body-fat percentage test for those "NFL players" that are just plain muscular. Everyone knows that muscle weighs more than fat and the Army takes that into consideration. The body-fat percentage test is based upon the diameter of your neck and the diameter of the widest portion of your abdomen. Lose the weight and keep it off. At the same time get one of those neck harnesses to which you can attach weights and do neck exercises similar to those that boxers do. The thicker your neck, the more leeway you have in your abdominal dimensions. I'm not advocating that you cheat the test but it would really suck if you took the ASVAB and made it through the whole physical and found that you couldn't get in because you were 0.2% over on your body fat percentage. After you enlist your recruiter will be all over your * to keep you under the limit because they weigh you and do the body fat percentage the day before you leave for basic training. Failure to maintain the standard will result in you having to go through the whole process again. More than likely your contract will be null and void and you will have to go through the whole process again. The MOS that was guaranteed to you in your contract may not be open when you go back to enlist and any cash enlistment bonus that you got in your contract may not be there when you go back. Do it now and do it quickly. If you want to go to Basic Training this summer you need to move on it fast. High School seniors all leave for training at the same time--June/July/August/Setpember. that means that the training slots for basic training and AIT this summer have been filling up for about 9 months now. More than likely you will have fewer choices from which to pick than if you had made your decision last summer or fall. If you have something very specific in mind and a military enlistment with the possibility of a military career is in your future, I would advise you to seriously consider getting in serious shape over the course of the next YEAR and going back to enlist next February or March. Those are the historical "bathtub" months. That means that not many people are enlisting and they are hard-up to fill March/April/May training slots. You will have a wider selection of MOS's to pick from and you are much more likely to get a cash enlistment bonus during those months of the year. Hell, guys that score low on the ASVAB and barely pass but are high school graduates that can ship out in February/March/April/May are being offered the WORLD!
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    here's my waywater to drink onlysmaller meals and more often, eat 4-5 small meals of mostly vegatable and fruit and chicken, stay away from anything fried or carbs.excercise.lift weights on a strength training programno beer or liquorget up earlier and start burning calories longer.eat early to get the metabolism going.any guesses who's mother was a nutritionist?one more thing, when you start running, you should get a set of combat boots from a supply catalog and run with them on. get used to how they will feel and toughen up your feet.
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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you take JustC's advice on the boots, start out with a short distance, no more often than every other day. Do not run more than 1 mile in boots for the first month, not a rule, just my advice. Watch for shin splints. Take it up in distance nice and easy. Do not run more than 4 miles in boots until you are in good shape, those shin splints can sneak up on you, depends on your bones. You will be worlds ahead of your peers if you prepare in this manner. Speed is not important here, its stamina you want. Speed will come later or at the same time, depending on you, just DO NOT HURT YOUR LEGS OR FEET!!!!
    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye --Luckily for you, it isn't as hard for a man as it is for a woman to lose 25 pounds of excess weight. Since you will have an easier time in basic if you not in sh*tty shape, if I were you I'd take the advice that said to start running. Start slow, by walking if necessary, but work up to trotting, etc. Go a longer distance each week. The second thing I would suggest is to get (hire, if necessary) someone to oversee your 25-lb. weight loss until it is accomplished. You will have to get used to taking orders anyway -- why not enlist someone to take charge of getting that weight off you? You're probably not a member of a gym, but call your local "Y" and see if they can direct you to someone who can mentor you on this. Put yourself under his (or her) power, and let 'em kick your butt a bit if necessary to get the job done.
    "The 2nd Amendment is about defense, not hunting. Long live the gun shows, and reasonable access to FFLs. Join the NRA -- I'm a Life Member."
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  • SXSMANSXSMAN Member Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Some very good advice.I wasn't going to post a reply because I haven't heeded my own advice of which I'm about to tell you.Jump ropeNo,not like girls,like boxers.Buy a good leather jump rope.And start with let's say 15 minutes and as your skill/ability increases so must your time.(I put on some weight after surgery and only reason I'm not jumping is problem w/shoulder)I could drop weight very quick jumping rope.Good luck dude,SxS
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  • jeenyesjeenyes Member Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    NO! Please don't say it's true bullz. Your one of about 3 people I can get into a disagreement with, and the other 2 can't handle me by themselves.At least have a laptop after bootcamp.And please don't wear any UN blue.
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Thank you for your advice, everyone.I firmly believe in the notion that grueling work and determination can move mountains.I dont care what the hell my body chemistry is. I dont care if I have to lose 25 pounds or 250 pounds. I dont care if I have to sleep in a sweatbox, run 15 miles a day, and live on bread and water.If I'm predisposed towards being overweight, I'll simply work until it is no longer so disposed.I have a superb mind. It took no work to get that.I have a weak body. I will have to struggle all of the way, but my determination will eventually win.I refuse to allow my own house to be divided.I will purge this cancer from myself and be reborn a new man.Now the only problem is HOW.
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    One other thing:Is there any way to find out the availability of an MOS without signing a contract?[This message has been edited by Bullzeye (edited 03-26-2002).]
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  • the loveable rat...the loveable rat... Member Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    well, you could cut your head off....seriously though, if you don't want to diet too much, run for 1 hr. 5 times a week. i did that for a couple of months and could eat a pound of pasta every night and often washed it down w/ about a 12-pack. and i was 28 at the time. don't go fast. go as fast as you'd like- just don't stop. get used to boring. develop discipline. expect minimal change for a few weeks as your metabolism changes. for extra burn, lift some weights directly after run, or alternately jog to the pool, swim, and jog back. train for the 40th mile, not the 1st one...
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  • jeenyesjeenyes Member Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The recruiter should be able to find that out, and don't go in under a open contract, or there's no telling where you might wind up. Make sure you have a mos first.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye your last post was very good.What do you want to be? It's up to you.Do you want to be a Marine Super Grunt, an Army Ranger, or a Navy Seal?Most people just want to get in there and get it over with. From your posts I think you may be warrior material, so look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself "can I hack it"? Can you run 5 miles with a 50 lb. pack, do a bunch of push ups and then do the obstacle course? Do you even want to?Can you learn to be a bad *? Do you even know what a bad * is? Answer these questions then go for it my friend.
    PC=BS
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye--there is no way to check what is "on the system" unless you agree that you are going to enlist. What is here today may not be here tomorrow. The guidance counselors spend at least an hour with each applicant and are generally there from sun-up to sun-down drawing up contracts and putting people in the Army. If the recruiters in your area heard what I am about to say, they'd kill me. If you don't get what you want then don't sign anything. MEPS will call your recruiter and he will have to come down and try to convince you to pick SOMETHING/ANYTHING. You will be refered to a "QNE" which means Qualified Not Enlisted. Recruiters get crushed by everyone on up to their Batallion Commanders for that because they didn't do their job to make sure you were ready to go with what you were offered. I know it's stupid but that is reality. You may not be welcome in the recruiting office after that. Don't tell your recruiter that you just want to go up and see what is available. Like I said, there's no way you'll be able to see what is on the system unless you are sitting down to enlist. However, nobody says you have to sign $h!+. Here's a bit of advice. I can almost guarantee there will be a Military Police slot available. There's a STOP LOSS on the MP MOS right now. That means that members of the MP Corps can't get out of the Army at all--even if their terms of enlistment are up. That means that the MP Corps is short. MP's do all of that "hoorah" crap in the field and they also work patrol. After a couple of years in the MP Corps you can re-enlist and get some cool things guaranteed to you in your new contract such as Military Police Investigations School (did that for a bit), Special Reactions Team school (Army SWAT), Traffic Accident Investigations (great if you are considering a future career in law enforcement) or K-9 school. I can only say with almost 100% certainty that there will be a military police slot for you if it interests you. It will give you a chance to possibly go through the SRT Sniper course too. You can also get a Special Forces Selection Course slot fairly easily these days if you meet all qualifications (height/weight, physical fitness test, ASVAB scores, psychological). If you don't cut it in the selection course or you drop from the qualificatoin course, you go right back into your old MOS. If you go right into Seal selection from the civilian world and don't cut it, you are assigned per the needs of the Navy. Don't sign anything until you are completely happy. However, you will only get the GI Bill ($28,800) and not the Army College Fund ($50,000 when combined with the GI Bill). There will probably be no cash enlistment bonus for MP's (although you may be surprised) and you will probably have to sign up for a 4-year hitch. I'll get the info on what MOS's are carrying what bonuses. Let me know what you are interested in.idsman75@peoplepc.comP.S. I just got ahold of the current incentives list via email but you need Microsoft Excel to read it. It tells you what bonuses and what college money is available to which MOS's and it also tells which MOS's carry 2,3,4,5,or6-year contracts.[This message has been edited by idsman75 (edited 03-26-2002).][This message has been edited by idsman75 (edited 03-26-2002).]
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  • whiteclouderwhiteclouder Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bullzeye would have no trouble at all being a Navy Seal. Go get 'em tiger.Clouder..Seriously...
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Holy moly. I just took a look at the incentives and I can't believe my eyes. It appears as though there is a cash enlistment bonus for Military Police. If you can ship out before June 10th you could make out like a bandit with $7K - $10K in cash bonus money from Uncle Sam.
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  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    I look at my being overweight as a tumor that needs to be removed. It's affecting my performance, and therefore it WILL go.I will dig the tumor out with a spoon if I have to.All digging aside, I'll just do as much work as is necessary to fix it. I wont let something so piddling as weight screw up my life.You'd have to take one of my limbs or something to make me stop.
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  • UnclePatUnclePat Member Posts: 77 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye,The weight is your first concern & you will have to get rid of it before going to the MEPS Station. But, of equal importance in today's Army is your ability to run. You must be able to do 5 miles, non stop, in the required time for your age (check with your recruiter) every day, 7 days/week. The PT test does 2 miles, but, make sure you can do a minimum of 5 without killing yourself.
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  • timberbeasttimberbeast Member Posts: 1,738 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    OK, Bullz, I'm challenging you, are you up for it?I lay down the gauntlet here and now.Stay the heck away from any ephedrine type junk that can play havoc with your heart rythtmn.The more muscle matter you have, the more fat your body will burn.You're 18? I'm 44, and I can run five miles without stopping. I doubt if I can do it in the prescribed time by the military. I figger half an hour for me, but never timed it.I never measured my neck, but I know that I can't find a shirt that I can button the top one on, without its sleeves being too long and the rest floating around like a dress.The only "working out" that I do is I curl 3 sets of 10 with 100 lbs. three times a week and I do 50 pushups every day before I shower.In my prime, I never could make the weight on any chart. Never had to. Don't know if I could, but I ain't fat, never have been.Kick my butt.Be a soldier.I don't think you can do it.You got the b+++s to prove me wrong?I don't think so.Bring it on, son.And you better bring it with a will.If you don't make it, you are defeated.Unless you don't really mean it.Do you???Show me.Show yourself.
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  • oldfriendsoldfriends Member Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BULZFirst congratulations on making a decision that will allow you to grow up. The military will provide you the opportunity and you must take that opportunity and make of it what you will.Second and I quote your original post: "And regardless of whether I can take out a squirrel's eye at 300 yds, make plastic explosive out of mothballs and bleach, or kill a man with my bare hands, ..." You would be best served to forget this sort of thing. It may come in handy later in your career but right now it will alienate you to the rest of the community. Bravado such as this is what the Drills/DIs/TI/s will rip from your being. They will put a perspective on you that you can not imagine. Third: Your weight. I went into the army wighing 175 pounds at 71 inches. After my first enlistment, I weighed 210 at 73 inches. Felt and was lean and mean. Problem was the tables said I could only weigh 198 at that time. Table changed later an allowed me to wigh 204 until I reached age 40 where I have been under the gun to weigh 208. I have had to fight this for a lot of years. I have always excelled on PT tests etc. and been able to meet the pinch test or the tape test for body fat. The point here is there is a struggle with the military's perception of being fit. I never looked fat so that was one advantage. (Army and Marines state on top of their weight standards that you must present a "soldierly appearance.") Subjective, but fact. I will retire this August with 33 years 4 months 3 days total military service. I would say that I have had to fight the tables for 30 of those years. I have been on jump status sinse 1970 (except 3 years in a Joint assignment). I have bad knees, back, other things (mind ) and struggle now more than before on weight. Time to go I guess. All this said with the intent to let you know that you CAN do it. It takes focus and long term committment. Go out and do it. Keep in mind that a lot of people have done it before you and you are every bit as good as they. Follow the advice in the previous posts on getting in shape, quit bragging about what you think you know, don't bring attention to your self except to accentuate the positive, go forth and be the best you can be. Good luck.
    Life is Tough!It's Tougher if You're Stupid[This message has been edited by oldfriends (edited 03-27-2002).]
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  • idsman75idsman75 Member Posts: 13,398 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye--You do not have to be able to run 5 miles non-stop in order to enter Basic Training. I was out of shape and near my maximum allowable weight when I entered Basic Training. I was close to scoring maximum possible points on the physical fitness test in a few short months. However, running and losing as much weight as possible will make the process a lot less painful for you. I threw up a few times during long runs but caught up with the group and kept on driving on. That's the mentality you need. Get your body fat percentage down. Hell, go to the recruiting office and have them measure you and tell you what your body fat percentage is and how much you actually have to lose. I'm guessing around 60 pounds. You'll still be close but I'm guessing that is about how much you have to lose in order to be eligible. Keep it up and don't quit.
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullz --Since you are planning to enlist you will not want to sign a long-term contract at a local gym but call around and see if you can find one that will let you pay month-to-month to get ready for the service. You might just find a patriotic manager willing to cut you a deal. Then get in there and work out: lift, run, etc. I started going to the gym at the age of about 19 and I was built like a dockworker well into my 40s. In fact, when I was 42, I tried out for the local Sherriff's Department and passed the physical (including a mile & 1/2 run) with flying colors. They cut me because of my age, but I was a minor legend around there for keeping up with the 20 year olds on that physical test. The physical fitness habit is better than any drug and once you start you'll enjoy looking and feeling great. Just don't overdo the recommended workout, or you'll pull or strain something and have to stop altogether.
    "The 2nd Amendment is about security, not hunting. Long live the gun shows, and reasonable access to FFLs. Join the NRA -- I'm a Life Member."
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Did I just see WhiteClouder being NICE to Bullzeye? Wow!
    Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
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  • 223believer223believer Member Posts: 128 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I once cut 18 pounds in two weeks, and it wasn't water weight. I exercised twice a day doing one hour or cardio and 30 minutes of weightlifting each time. I also walked about two miles every day. I cut WAY back on food, only eating about 1000-1200 calories a day. Want to know the little secret that made it all possible? It was HARD AS HELL! I was constantly hungry, so hungry I had trouble sleeping at night. When I was doing the cardio I pushed it hard the whole hour, dripping sweat and gasping for breath. I pumped that iron so hard I had trouble raising my arms to take a shower afterwards. But that's the secret. If you want remarkable results quickly, be prepared to work your * off and be miserable to get them.
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  • CAndres35CAndres35 Member Posts: 453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    i am with nunn, BODY SOLUTIONS check them out and mention you heard it on kmox and get a 20% discount. carl
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