In order to participate in the GunBroker Member forums, you must be logged in with your GunBroker.com account. Click the sign-in button at the top right of the forums page to get connected.
where to mad cow came from!!!
cowdoc
Member Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭
Just heard this on the radio while feeding she has been traced back as coming from Canada!!!!!!!!
keep our god damn borders closed!!!! take Nafta and such and stick it!!!
keep our god damn borders closed!!!! take Nafta and such and stick it!!!
Comments
Our northern neighbors are not going to like hearing that.
Got a question for you. The USDOA Secretary mentioned a 'downer' cow. I hope this is not what I think it is. When I was a boy, down animals were shot and a hide-man came for the carcass. It was never offered to a slaughterhouse. Occasionally we'd let an Indian come and get it. That's shameful I know, but we thought we were doing them a favor.
Are we, collectively, slaughtering downed animals for human consumption?
Clouder..
also a lot of meat comes into this country that nobody has any idea where it come from how it was handled that should worry all of you....next thing will be hoof and mouth brought into this country from down south!!! that will destroy this industry bigtime...for those of you die hard consevative type that think there should be no laws to protect our food supply and ect beit COOL and others you dont protect us and we are talking major economnic problemes for this country.......just in my family which includes me dad two uncles two brothers and two cousin in the cattle industry we are talking about a 5 million dollar deal that just took a major hit if this is not handled right and things continue they way they are,it could make the great depression look like a cake walk....just my families cattle deal pays a hell of a lot of bills and that keeps a lot of people in jobs, us included! this could be one of the most critical blows to our allready fragile economy has ever seen.
When I backed up to the dock she was still breathing and thus strung up and processed.
If you think that's bad I have stories about veal that will make everyone puke and swear off veal...
When they slaughter veal they process say 100-140 head a day at this one plant. Veal calves have alot of body heat and when 100-140 head are put into the freezer, it raises the temperature above freezing for awhile, turning the veal green and it has a vinegary smell. They grind it up so no one knows...umm umm..veal...blaaawwhhh!
Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom.
-General George Patton
Saturday, December 27, 2003
WASHINGTON - Investigators tentatively traced the first U.S. cow with mad cow disease to Canada, which could help determine the scope of the outbreak and might even limit the economic damage to the American beef industry.
Dr. Ron DeHaven (search), the Agriculture Department's chief veterinarian, said on Saturday that Canadian officials provided records indicating the sick Holstein was in a herd of 74 cattle shipped from Alberta, Canada, into this country in August 2001 at Eastport, Idaho.
"These animals were all dairy cattle and entered the U.S. only about two or two-and-a-half years ago, so most of them are still likely alive," DeHaven said.
The sick cow's presence in that herd does not mean all 74 animals are infected, DeHaven said. Investigators will probably find where the other 73 animals are within a matter of days, he said. Finding them will help investigators determine if any other animals are sick and need to be tested.
In May, Canada found a lone cow with the disease in Alberta but has not been able to determine the source of infection.
If U.S. and Canadian officials confirm that the sick cow in Washington state came from Canada, it might save the export market for the American beef industry because the United States could keep its disease-free status and continue trade.
Federal officials announced on Tuesday that tests indicated the cow, which ended up at a Washington farm in October 2001, had mad cow, a brain-wasting illness. An international laboratory in England confirmed it Thursday.
Mad cow disease, known as bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is a concern because humans who eat brain or spinal matter from an infected cow can develop variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (search). In Britain, 143 people died of it after an outbreak of mad cow in the 1980s.
Federal officials insist U.S. meat is safe because the brain, spinal cord and lower intestine - parts that carry infection - were removed from the cow before its meat was processed for human consumption.
Despite those assurances, more than two dozen countries banned U.S. beef this week. The United States lost 90 percent of its beef export market, industry officials say, and producers stand to lose up to $6 billion a year in exports and falling domestic prices. Agriculture Department officials went Saturday to Japan, a top buyer that has banned American beef, to discuss maintaining trade.
Connecting the infected cow to Canada could deal another blow to the Canadian beef industry, which has struggled since it found its case of mad cow last May. It lost $1 million in beef trade per day as countries cut off beef imports.
Dr. Brian Evans, chief veterinary officer of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (search), emphasized that the cow's origins have yet to be confirmed. He noted that details on the cow's records in the United States do not match the ones kept in Canada.
Canadian papers show the cow had two calves before it was shipped to the United States, which wasn't documented by U.S. officials.
Also, DeHaven said Canadian papers say the diseased cow was 6-years-old - older than U.S. officials had thought. U.S. records say the cow was 4- or 4-years-old.
Because of the discrepancies, Evans cautioned against "a premature conclusion that the definitive animal or definitive birth place has been located."
The age is significant because the animal may have been born before the United States and Canada in 1997 banned certain feed, which is considered the most likely source of infection.
Cows get infected by eating feed which contains tissue from the spine or brain of an infected animal. Farmers used to feed their animals such meal to fatten them.
Although U.S. officials have maintained the food supply is safe, the government recalled an estimated 10,000 pounds of meat cut from the infected cow and from 19 other cows all slaughtered Dec. 9 at Vern's Moses Lake Meat Co., in Moses Lake, Wash.
Ken Petersen, of the department's Food Safety and Inspection Service, said, "It's too early to know how much of the product has been brought back, though we know that some of the product is beginning to be at least held at the retail facilities."
Officials say the slaughtered cow was deboned at Midway Meats in Centralia, Wash., and the meat was sent to two other plants in the region, identified as Willamette Valley Meat and Interstate Meat, both near Portland, Ore.
Meanwhile, the Food and Drug Administration (search) is trying to find out if the cow ate contaminated feed - a difficult task because the animal may have gotten the disease years before it appeared sick. The disease has an incubation period of four or five years.
Dr. Stephen Sundlof, head of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine, said the agency is accounting for all of the byproducts rendered from the cow, including items like soap and soil nutrients.
Copied from FOX NEWS.
I'm with ya Doc [:(!]!!!
,,,sod
Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.
Member:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets
She was only a fisherman's daughter,
But when she saw my rod she reeled.
another thing that makes me peod is that all these other countries want to dump their stuff here and take a ride on the US dollar because their money is not worth much...like for Canada they only need half the meat they produce they then want to dump the rest here and trash our markets this applies to just about every other country weather it meat grain or whatever, i am for one sick and tired of being other countries dumping ground. just look at our trade deficit with all the other countries proves my case!!
guess i feel that the saying of "look out for number 1 first" should apply imho
also talked to the person that we have local truckers here where i live to go in to mexico and haul cattle back into the states this was when there was a big hoof and mouth problem in SA and one country along the mexico border was a hot bed for H&M same thing got talked to like we dont know our head from our *...there hasnt been H&M hauled into the states YET!! but will happen at sometime!!! i felt like driving to DC and drop kicking this fool in the *!
ok heres another story i read while back dont remember for sure where i read it for sure think it was a R Calf new letter but anyways it was about 6 or so mexican ranchers to got caught using a drug that is even illegal to use there, imagine that!! this drug residue even in parts per million is enough to kill a human with certain health conditions...drop them dead as a hammer if they eat any meat with it in!!! the mexican gov threw them guys in jail.....but how good of inspection really do they have to catch what probably is a bigger problem than one would know????? you'll never know because nobody knows where their food comes from,,, last i knew DDT was still being used in mexico man i really want to eat something that is contaminated with that! like vegies and ect!
Signature:
Signature checkbox
checked by default?: Yes No
With an attitudeto the rest of the world like that, it's no wonder 9/11 happened
"Hippocrites?" I'm not sure about THAT but we might have a few hypocrites here.[xx(]
Lord Lowrider the Loquacious.
Member:Secret Select Society of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets
She was only a fisherman's daughter,
But when she saw my rod she reeled.
You remind me of a joke my dad told me.
Seems there was this rich man, an egotistical, mean-sprited, grasping ingrate. One day he had a premonition about his death so he hurried out and gave a dime to a pencil seller, another to an apple vendor and a nickel to a young begger girl. And sure enough, he died.
At the gates of heaven, Peter asked what he had done with his life.
The man proudly pointed out the two dimes and the nickel.
Peter turned around and asked Gabriel, "What do you think?"
"Give him his two-bits and tell him to go to hell," Gabriel replied.
Clouder..
Mad Cow is transmitted thru grinding up brains and making into feed.Protein.
Looks to me like greed,here..and an easy fix.Nowhere have I seen it to be transmitted thru contact.
The fix...STOP FEEDING COWS cow by-products. !!!
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
I'm not a big fan of government sticking their noses into every aspect of our lives.
However, if they've made the decision that they need to protect our food supply, how about they get off their as ses and do their frikkin' jobs??!!
They take our tax dollars to support departments like USDA, they put a bunch of career "teat sucklers" on the public payroll as "inspectors", and FOR WHAT??
So they can blame the poor hapless "Hosers" for our infected meat???
If American cattlemen are free and willing to sell diseased animals to the slaughterhouses, and if the slaughterhouses are free and willing to put that diseased meat into the food supply, that doesn't speak too well of the American beef industry!
AND, what the HELL do we need all those USDA "inspectors" for???
Being right here in SW Washington we were the first to hear of the infected animal, and YES, it was reported early on that the animal was "non-ambulatory" when it reached the meat plant. Meaning it was so sick, it could not walk.
If I came across a game animal in the woods that was so sick it was "non-ambulatory", I would certainly put the animal out of it's misery.
BUT, I'll be damned if I would take it home and feed it to my family!!
What ever happened to personal responsibilty and the pride of the American farmer in his product??
[That many of our countrymen and our U.S. Supreme Court will support and even celebrate the porn peddlers Heffner and Flint while vilifying The Honorable Judge Roy Moore is testimony to the sewer our nation has become!]