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Hunting and drinking blood of.....

turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
edited January 2002 in General Discussion
A few weeks back someone posted a question on this subject.And while doing a bit of early spring cleaning , I ran across a small article I had clipped awhile back, which I had read and then filed away, on this subject, which be might of interest to some.By the way, anyone can read about this disease in the Current Med Publication for 2002 entitled, Diagnosis & Treatment, I don't have the name of publisher but will add it, to this thread, as soon as I get.Cystic Hydatid Disease(Unilocular Hydatid Disease)E Granulosis, one of several strains.In the vernacular, this is a strain of the worms usually associated with dogs. One, if not the defenitive host is the common dog, including coyotes, foxes and other carnivours belonging to the dog familie.Transmitted by accidental contact with dog feces.Humans can be intermediatre hosts; other intermediate hosts can be deer, elk, moose,sheep, cattle, other clove hoofed grazers.Foci have been reported from Western US, to the lower Mississippi Valley, Alaska, Northwestern Canada. Liberated embroys penetrate the intestinal mucosa, enter the blood stream and are carried to the liver, lungs, brain, skeleto muscles, kidneys, spleen, spinal soft tissue, tongue, other soft tissue.Here they develop into sylvatic cysts, which may go unnoticed for years, (some time taking as long as 10-20 yrs)and grow until reaching a size which becomes noticeable by palpation, or rupture or leak, or put pressure on surrounding nerve tissue, such as in spinal nerves causing parapeglia.Ruptures may cause multiple secondary cysts.This disease can and is treatable if diagnosis is made early, or before the more severe sysmptons appear.Now, I know some will say, this article speaks about it being transmitted by accidental contact with dog feces. My point isn't to argue about this or to imply that somehow or other, anyone that drinks, or tastes blood of animals shot and dressed in the field will automatically infect anyone that drinks or comes into contact with the infected blood of these animals, but to simply make the point that there exists very good reasons for not drinking the blood of any animal, without first considering the implications of such an act.Infected cloven hoofed animals both domestic and wild are suceptible to these microorganisms, by virtue of their inherent nature to graze, and nibble on grasses and sedges, or the eating of fallen nuts, and seeds found laying on the ground.And as you know dogs and coyotes, or foxes are not particular fussy, where they do their business.This is only one example of many other organisms that are in need of a host during their transitient pathogenic stages.I say be carefull when considering doing something like this, there are no garuanteesthat one can be assured that any animal is disease free, by a visual examination of organs, and knowing that the larval state of this peculiar strain of parasite, can survive the stomach enzymes of the hosts stomach (in this case humans) and enter the blood stream (which would put any individual at risk during this time) thru the intestinal lining, and the fact that one can be infected many years before being discovered, is sobering.Please accept this just as general information, I did'nt do an exhaustive research into the subject and only culled out those portions which would be informative to you all, take it from here. Cook all your food, thats the only way you can be assured, that what you are eating will achieve the purpose intended,to nourish your body.[This message has been edited by turbo (edited 01-11-2002).]

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  • jetjet Member Posts: 543 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    don't the massi drink cow blood,mixed with milk?mad cow survives cooking.
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Drinking rabbit or squirrel blood (or eating raw meat) is a great way to catch tularemia.If you dont know what it is, learn. It isnt widespread, but it isnt a pleasant way to die either.
  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    After I shot my first deer, the guy who I was with told me I was supposed to drink the blood to be like the Indians. I had already taken biology for a few semesters in school and decided against it.I am especially thankful I declined, now.
    Gun Control Disarms Victims, NOT Criminals
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    More specifically, most of the damage caused by parasites occurs when they lay eggs which enlarge and cause scar pockets in nutrient rich areas of the body where they are laid, like the brain, liver and heart.They burst, the organ is scarred, trouble ensues.This usually takes a few years though. Daily doses of paracidal drugs eliminate the worms in a month, usually.
  • .250Savage.250Savage Member Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yeah, but come on, guys! You will be dead from fighting the Russian and Cuban invaders long before that!But for those not fighting "Red Dawn", yeah, I would thoroughly cook my food...
  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullzeye, The scar pockets you refer to are the cysts mentioned herein, in essence it is these that become infected and cause the scarring of the protein rich organs.It's only in recent years that alot of these diseases that have existed forever together with their causes have come to lite.For instance diabetis had been misdiagnosed in alot of the previous victims which died, the causes for their death, sometimes would be attributed to cancer, liver failure, internal bleeding, heart failure, flu, and other common ailments, until it was identified as excessive or lack of blood sugar caused by the pancreas's failure to produce insulim.Such is the case with this type of disease, people get cysts, and the medical profession in the past was able to identify and treat these with drugs and radiation but, didn't necessarily know the cause or source of the infection.There is a sound reason for bleeding all animals, prior to dressing the meat for consumption.Blood carries cell waste, when a body dies, it's this waste, together with the bacteria found in the stomach and gut, that imediately starts to decompose proteins in the flesh, at room temperature.I think, I'd rather stay healthy even though I know my body is a host to all those external parasites, that live off the dead skin and in the root follicles of hair, why invite ohers to feast on me..Get a little more mileage out this bag of bones, "Just a little bit more".
  • jeenyesjeenyes Member Posts: 330 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not sure if it is the same thing, but have a friend (woman) who has worms in her stool, if she coughs up anything from her lungs, it has worms in it and she has a large place on her leg, looks kinda shiney, but if she scratches it, worms will crawl out. Really gross.
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    Best I can figure she's eithera) a Stephen King novel characterorb) seriously infected with parasites.Does she have a history of drinking or playing in water animals have defecated in?Little known fact: Worms hate anesthesia and they usually vacate an anesthesised body, thinking it to be dead. People unknowingly infected will have them crawling out their nose, throat, sometimes even tear ducts during surgery.
  • ATFATF Member Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Just one word,YUCK ! Make that three words YUCK,YUCK,YUCK!!!.
    ATF[This message has been edited by ATF (edited 01-12-2002).]
  • oldfriendsoldfriends Member Posts: 167 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I was young and mor impressionable, I used to take a slice of fresh killed liver and dip in in the bile and eat it. Couldn't eat much as i would begin thinking about it too much. I had read about the mountain men doing this. Wanted to be like them. I started to read about the parasites and diseases one could encounter by this action and quit. I guess I have become squemish as I have gotten older and realized that I am living longer than I ever thought I would.
    Life is Tough!It's Tougher if You're Stupid
  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Get that woman to a doctor.., you describe another parasite, which usually infest dogs and cats, and they lodge in the lungs, and cause graet damage to the avaoli sacs, which in the end degenrate lung capacity and if left untreated, may cause death.These are all treatable, but you must get medical attention, they won't go away on their own. Their life cycle usually involves rats and other small rodent types, and are past on to dogs and cats when they eat infected animals, or eat soil contaminated with egg cysts.Anyway, reference for alot of these diseases and what info I gave above is found in: The 35 Chapter of The fortyfirst edition , 2002 Current Medical, Diagnosis and Treatment of Adult Ambulatory & Inpatient Management, edited by Tierney, McPhee, Papadakis a McGraw Hill Publication. A Lange Medical Journal.
  • Miss. CreantMiss. Creant Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know a guy who eats worms. Minnows to.
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mmmm than means don't try to be a vampire unless you are already dead......
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  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Say there judge,When did you fall in on us, I thought you were outa here?What happened.
  • Judge DreadJudge Dread Member Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I say I was temporaly from time to time not able to post .....Security reasons ...but sometimes i am able to skip some thru ....ok!This forum must be regulated by FDA in the future ...tooo darn addictive!!!!!
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  • turboturbo Member Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well good,Thoutght maybe youd gone to the moon.
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